She knew the risk

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-07-13 12:06pm

Beaten to death

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-13 12:21pm

Doesn't change the fact that the government of Iran tortured to death a Canadian citizen.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-07-13 12:26pm

What a bunch of assholes.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-13 12:34pm

Remember all of that talk about how Iran was becoming moderate? Bah, humbug.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-07-13 12:52pm

Well, now that the Ayatollahs have alienated that HUGE segment of the population of their country, you know, the young ones, you'd think they'd be a bit smarter and start laying off the beatings and hard punishments. Oh well, We all know what happens in Absolute Monarchies...*Waves at Marie Antoinette's Head...*

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-07-13 01:17pm

Anyone opposed to that whacking big 120,000 man US troop presence in
Iraq now

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-07-13 01:38pm

MKSheppard wrote:Anyone opposed to that whacking big 120,000 man US troop presence in
Iraq now

I say we march em West...

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-07-13 01:39pm

EAST, dammit, EAST! I'm a fucking idiot, someone please change that to East?

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-07-13 10:03pm

Her family in Canada ask for her body back,but the Iranian government buried her,i guess they want to hide what their mighty policemen did.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-07-13 10:09pm

Vorlon1701 wrote:EAST, dammit, EAST! I'm a fucking idiot, someone please change that to East?

He don't knock west... Syria's that was and they could probably stand a bit of liberating themselves.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-07-13 10:15pm

They didn't get on the Axis of Evil for nothing folks. Sadly, this is about par for the course for them. They've shown zero concern for rights or other nation's citizens since day one.

The moderates might be growing in number but it's still the real wackos that call the shots. The problem is the moderates are mostly younger and not able to get into government or make their voices heard.

A Big Flying Fish · Post by **A Big Flying Fish** » 2003-07-14 09:23am

Give them another 5 years and they'll be another revolution in Iran, hopefully one not powered by deranged arseholes. Viva la revolution.

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2003-07-14 10:19am

Darth Wong wrote:Remember all of that talk about how Iran was becoming moderate? Bah, humbug.

The people do, the state doesn't.

Post by **Steve** » 2003-07-16 03:14am

*salutes*

We will never forgive, nor shall we forget. Justice will find her killers, thus should be the vow of all those who love their freedom and hate tyranny!

Zahra Kazemi's life has ended: may her legacy live on and contribute to the liberation of Iran.

Viva la Libertè!

Allow an American to honor the passing of one of Canada's finest.

O Canada! Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North, strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free !
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

Post by **Coyote** » 2003-07-16 05:16am

The good people of Iran have suffered long enough under the brutal Mullah regime. We should remmeber that this death of a Canadian journalist is something that Iranian families live with every day as friends and family members disappear or are beaten in squalid jails all the time.

Soon, I hope, a revolution will come that will more accurately reflect the will of the people. I have met many Persians (ethnic Iranians) and they are the most wonderful of people.

LT.Hit-Man · Post by **LT.Hit-Man** » 2003-07-16 08:22pm

Makes me wish I could re-enlist.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-16 09:07pm

If there's a silver lining in this cloud, I think we should recognize how profoundly lucky we are to have been born and raised in relatively civilized nations. Something to think about the next time we grouse about paying sales tax.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-07-16 11:50pm

Darth Wong wrote:If there's a silver lining in this cloud, I think we should recognize how profoundly lucky we are to have been born and raised in relatively civilized nations. Something to think about the next time we grouse about paying sales tax.

Or rip on Bush and the White House/Congress

Sobbastchianno · Post by **Sobbastchianno** » 2003-07-17 12:30am

Vorlon1701 wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:If there's a silver lining in this cloud, I think we should recognize how profoundly lucky we are to have been born and raised in relatively civilized nations. Something to think about the next time we grouse about paying sales tax.
Or rip on Bush and the White House/Congress

I draw the line at refraining from ripping on Bush or Congress. See, that is our right as citizens of this country. Yes, we live on the best quadrant on the planet when it comes to everything. However, we didn't get this way by being silent or complacent. As good as things are, they can always be better, and there is NOTHING wrong with voicing an opinion on that.

Go for it Dixie Chicks

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-07-17 10:05pm

Sobbastchianno wrote:I draw the line at refraining from ripping on Bush or Congress. See, that is our right as citizens of this country. Yes, we live on the best quadrant on the planet when it comes to everything. However, we didn't get this way by being silent or complacent. As good as things are, they can always be better, and there is NOTHING wrong with voicing an opinion on that.

No one says that Bush or Congress should escape critism. Then again the people that do would do well to have a little (or a lot) perspective on the situation. Before people scream police state or grouse the fundies, they'd do well to remember that that is a fundy police state, the US doesn't come close.

Sobbastchianno wrote:Go for it Dixie Chicks

Yeah, let's here it for Hollywood liberal bimbos.

Sobbastchianno · Post by **Sobbastchianno** » 2003-07-20 10:02pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Sobbastchianno wrote:I draw the line at refraining from ripping on Bush or Congress. See, that is our right as citizens of this country. Yes, we live on the best quadrant on the planet when it comes to everything. However, we didn't get this way by being silent or complacent. As good as things are, they can always be better, and there is NOTHING wrong with voicing an opinion on that.
No one says that Bush or Congress should escape critism. Then again the people that do would do well to have a little (or a lot) perspective on the situation. Before people scream police state or grouse the fundies, they'd do well to remember that that is a fundy police state, the US doesn't come close.

Sobbastchianno wrote:Go for it Dixie Chicks
Actually, they are Nashvill Liberals. If you are going to insult someone, at least do it with a modicum of intelligence.

As for comparisons, you are right, we are nowhere near the fundamentalist state that most (if not all) Arab countries are. What irks me to no end is that people make those kind of comparisons as a way of telling me to just shut my mouth and be grateful.

Sorry, doesn't cut the mustard with me. Sure, most (if not all) of the Arab states are fundamental to a worse extent than we are, however, we were never INTENDED to be a fundamentalist state, or even a Christian state, so why should I be grateful that we aren't "that" fundamental, when we are more fundamental than we were intended to be?

Just because they have it worse than we do, doesn't mean we can't have it better than we already do.

Yeah, let's here it for Hollywood liberal bimbos.

Sobbastchianno · Post by **Sobbastchianno** » 2003-07-20 11:11pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Sobbastchianno wrote:I draw the line at refraining from ripping on Bush or Congress. See, that is our right as citizens of this country. Yes, we live on the best quadrant on the planet when it comes to everything. However, we didn't get this way by being silent or complacent. As good as things are, they can always be better, and there is NOTHING wrong with voicing an opinion on that.
No one says that Bush or Congress should escape critism. Then again the people that do would do well to have a little (or a lot) perspective on the situation. Before people scream police state or grouse the fundies, they'd do well to remember that that is a fundy police state, the US doesn't come close.

Sobbastchianno wrote:Go for it Dixie Chicks
Yeah, let's here it for Hollywood liberal bimbos.

Actually, they are Nashvill Liberals. If you are going to insult someone, at least do it with a modicum of intelligence.

As for comparisons, you are right, we are nowhere near the fundamentalist state that most (if not all) Arab countries are. What irks me to no end is that people make those kind of comparisons as a way of telling me to just shut my mouth and be grateful.

Sorry, doesn't cut the mustard with me. Sure, most (if not all) of the Arab states are fundamental to a worse extent than we are, however, we were never INTENDED to be a fundamentalist state, or even a Christian state, so why should I be grateful that we aren't "that" fundamental, when we are more fundamental than we were intended to be?

Just because they have it worse than we do, doesn't mean we can't have it better than we already do.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-07-20 11:46pm

I agree Sobbastchianno. A good analogy would be if you got in a car crash and because of a known design flaw inthe car your arm was ripped off. Now you tell your friends and say you're going to complain and sue the car company so what do they say? Don't worry did you see the news, Car design x is much worse than that, it brakes peoples backs in the same accident. Be glad you have one arm and two legs all of wich have full motor functions and forgot about it you whiner.