Britian?

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-07-16 03:29am

Anyone else ever notice that some British seem to have a bit of a complex about being perceived as "lapdogs" of America?

I've heard some people from other countries toss that line at the Brits, but they're normally folks who have an axe to grind with the US and will always have something nasty to say to those who don't.

Meanwhile, over here in the US, I've never heard a peep of this "lapdog" business. And we usually like talking about who can kiss our ass, if we perceive them that way.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-07-16 04:48am

Well, no-one wants to be told that their country is the lapdog to any other country, it's not something to be proud of if its true. I can imagine it being especially irritating to the extreme patriots, as only 100 years ago, we werent doing to badly for ourselves...

The Lapdog thing has only recently been aired more by British people because of the war, it may have been tossed around before that, but its really come out of the wood work with the Iraq stuff. To a few people over here, it seemed like the UK could have stayed well out of it without damaging the relationship with the US, but then again, others believe that the US-UK relationship is a valuable one - its only because the US is throwing its weight around again (more so than under Clinton - or so it seems - and Clinton was a lot more likable then Bush IMO) and because other countries are standing up to the US that the UK is seen as a lapdog.

Or something.

I suppose it all comes down to a decision over who the UK will throw its lot in with, the US or the EU. Going either way is going to get various insults coming out of the woodwork.

Personally, regardless of the truth of the matter, I cant stand the lapdog jibes, I was watching Blair being asked questions by the public, and as I was coming from an anti-war stance, nothing pissed me off more than to see the people who thought that they were being funny by calling the PM "The Right Honourable Minister for Texas", it degraded the point of the program and ruined any chance for serious debate - you could see it in the PM's face - he knew, as soon as the jokes started, he had it in the bag because they werent making any other points.

And I would imagine the UK doesnt have the lapdog vibe in the US is because Tony Blair was seen very publically to be fighting off press, europe and public hostility (not everyone) because he was fighting for what he believed was right.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-07-16 05:11am

Come ON! Throw in with the US, dammit! The rest of Europe is a pack of pansies! Join us, and together we shall rule the world! Muahahaha!!

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-07-16 06:13am

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Come ON! Throw in with the US, dammit! The rest of Europe is a pack of pansies! Join us, and together we shall rule the world! Muahahaha!!

Sorry, better to rule in hell and all that.

Although if you guys would be reasonable and recognise HRH as your sovereign then perhaps we could talk until then you rebels should be shunned by the civilised folk of the world.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-16 06:26am

TheDarkling wrote:
Although if you guys would be reasonable and recognise HRH as your sovereign then perhaps we could talk until then you rebels should be shunned by the civilised folk of the world.

Sorry but the rest of the world is busy sucking on the big fat cock of American pop culture.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-07-16 06:32am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
TheDarkling wrote:
Although if you guys would be reasonable and recognise HRH as your sovereign then perhaps we could talk until then you rebels should be shunned by the civilised folk of the world.
Sorry but the rest of the world is busy sucking on the big fat cock of American pop culture.

Very apt description of American culture there.

And you can't say that about everyone, the French have special laws to keep you lot out (seems odd since the general level of French arrogance should accomplish that without the need for legislation).

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-07-16 06:37am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
TheDarkling wrote:
Although if you guys would be reasonable and recognise HRH as your sovereign then perhaps we could talk until then you rebels should be shunned by the civilised folk of the world.
Sorry but the rest of the world is busy sucking on the big fat cock of American pop culture.

Frankly, that's an image I could have lived without...

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-07-16 08:05am

TheDarkling wrote:
GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Come ON! Throw in with the US, dammit! The rest of Europe is a pack of pansies! Join us, and together we shall rule the world! Muahahaha!!
Sorry, better to rule in hell and all that.

Although if you guys would be reasonable and recognise HRH as your sovereign then perhaps we could talk until then you rebels should be shunned by the civilised folk of the world.

Civilised? Who invented the fine art of soccer hooliganism, now, hmm?

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-07-16 08:39am

Lapdog? come on now. Everyone knows that Canada is our lapdog. The fact they stayed out of Iraq was merely act of subterfuge to disguise that.

Speaking of lapdogs, would that logic not make Ol' Ronnie Margaret Thatcher's lapdog during that little tiff in the Falklands?