Japanese naval aviation returns.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-18 08:14pm

It looks like they're going to be carrying some STOVL fighters on some light carriers: Washington Times

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-07-18 08:15pm

We must stop this now, while we still can!

:D:P

Post by **Coyote** » 2003-07-18 08:35pm

About goddamn time. Still, they're pussyfooting.

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2003-07-18 09:07pm

Good for them, it's about time they started expanding their military a bit.

Is China getting a working carrier anytime soon? I vaguely remember hearing about them buying one from Russia but I haven't seen anything on it recently.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-07-18 09:11pm

TORA, TORA, TORA

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-07-18 09:39pm

Those those LHD's they built a few years back? The ones that can carry 2 LCAC's and a few chinooks?

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-07-18 09:40pm

Oops. These are new ships. Sorry.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-18 09:45pm

In other news, the National Gaurd and the Seventh Cal. are worried that the Souix may be purchasing AR-15's and Hummers....

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2003-07-18 11:23pm

Andrew J. wrote:Is China getting a working carrier anytime soon? I vaguely remember hearing about them buying one from Russia but I haven't seen anything on it recently.

No. The carrier faction lost to submarine faction.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-07-18 11:29pm

Both of which lose to the US Navy faction

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-07-19 12:00am

Anything that can help us put the smack down on North Korea if they start causing shit is a good thing.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-07-19 12:06am

Wicked Pilot wrote:Anything that can help us put the smack down on North Korea if they start causing shit is a good thing.

If? No. With their economy the way it is, the proper thing to say is when.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-19 01:06am

China bought the incomplete hull of the Varyag, the sister ship of the Admiral Kuznetsov. It can't be completed- the hull is too far gone. It's probably being used to further study carrier construction techniques.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-19 01:08am

On the submarine faction of the Chinese Navy winning- some victory, their next generation attack submarine will be roughly equivalent with a Victor III SSN. Pathetic.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-07-19 04:00am

Phhht, far too small. They need to at least be Invincible Class size, Clemenceau or Charles de Gaulle class would be better.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-19 06:00am

Most of South East Asia isn't going to like this, and the Japanese aren't helping by trying to pass them off as destroyers. Of course the rest of the world will be busy laughing when they end up costing more then a Nimitz.

Crown wrote:Phhht, far too small. They need to at least be Invincible Class size, Clemenceau or Charles de Gaulle class would be better.

It’s a bit harder to pass a 20,000 ton vessel off as a destroyer and it would raise questions about if their offensive weapons or not.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-07-19 06:08am

Sea Skimmer wrote:It’s a bit harder to pass a 20,000 ton vessel off as a destroyer and it would raise questions about if their offensive weapons or not.

True, but this world needs more aircraft carriers in my opinion.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2003-07-19 03:55pm

Wonder what the names will be

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2003-07-19 10:00pm

Burak Gazan wrote:Wonder what the names will be

Yamamoto?
Akagi and Kaga?

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-07-19 11:46pm

Ten odd years ago the Japanese wanted to buy the Oriskany as a "peace memorial" ship. At the time it was ready-reserve so it was in a somewhat serviciable condition, in fact it had recently had new catapults installed.

Well, we found out that about 100 naval engineers were just waiting to take a look at said catapults. So we said no.

Incidently, if you look at the Oriskany now, you might get tetnus.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-20 12:41am

Alex Moon wrote:
Yamamoto?
Akagi and Kaga?

What an insult to those fine ships that would be. Think up some poncy new names for these undersized bastard cousins of first generation Soviet STOVL carriers.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-07-20 01:58am

Well, the Japanese are a good and formidable ally, and have the technology and skill to be very helpful indeed. It's about time they brought that know-how to world affairs. Not that they can actually use these carriers in a foriegn war as their constitution forbids it.

I'm suprised no one has yet started popping out paranoid conspiracies about this being the start of another Empire of Japan, though.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-20 02:12am

Vympel wrote:
What an insult to those fine ships that would be. Think up some poncy new names for these undersized bastard cousins of first generation Soviet STOVL carriers.

A suitable pair of shitty carriers to take names from would be Junyo and Hiyo

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-07-20 02:42am

I'd feel more comfortable about this if there wasn't still an extreme imperialist faction in Japan ...

Post by **Steve** » 2003-07-20 02:58am

How many years until Round 2?