Palpatine's Lightsaber?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-07-19 01:24am

Cal Wright wrote:Whose to say Obi Wan didn't actually use the force to channel the lightening in to where he could use his sabre? Either way it goes.

Ockam's Razor. You're adding unnecessary parts to an already consistent explanation--and I don't recall such a thing being said in official or canon.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-07-19 01:30am

Jesus guys, I was just putting forth a theory that sounded cool. I guess no one expects the EU Inquisistion.

Equinox2003 · Post by **Equinox2003** » 2003-07-19 03:14am

I would think that Palpatine had a light saber, though I must agree that
he is too old now to do an entertaining fight scene.
I would think that he trained Darth Maul in the use of a light saber.
There could be a good fight scene with Palpatine, if they did it CGI,
they way they did the Yoda-Dooku scene in AOTC with another guy
doing the actual fighting and Dooku's face put in over it in the
finished movie.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-19 03:24am

Um, I don't think that Ian McDiarmid is so old to require a total body double and CG assistance for a fight scene. I mean he's only 57...

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2003-07-19 06:25pm

Stravo wrote:Jesus guys, I was just putting forth a theory that sounded cool. I guess no one expects the EU Inquisistion.

Actually, I'm going to agree with Stravo here on different levels of Force Lightning. Dooku's blasts seem far more tightly packed, where as Palp's are spread out more, like a web. And there may be literary proof of his theory. Although not cannon, it is offical. It comes from a short story, "Uhl Eharl Khoehng" in the "Tales from the New Republic" book that contains one of my favorite EU characters: Adalric Brandl.

"Twenty, thirty...she lost count at the number of sucessful deflections...Even as the crescent of lightning arced behind her, slipping in over her head, she simply brought the lightsaber over her shoulder and into it's path."

Keep in mind, that although Fable was able to block the blasts of Force lightning, the person shooting at them (Vialco) was no where near Palp's level of skill or mastery, and also that she had been training for hours upon hours over several days to accomplish this very task. Adalric Brandl, one of the Emperor's Inquistors and Hand's so to speak, was teaching her a cadence dance, having her strike out at metal ball bearings perched atop wax candles and only destroy the bearings. She only became successful in this instance because she sort of became one with the Force. However, the point remains that this Force lightning is not acting in a normal principal, turning to go behind her and over her head to strike at her.

Furthermore, I believe Stravo also made the point that Darksiders, Dark Jedi, and Sith are not limited by Force Lighting as their only offensive Force skill. Other than the other obvious skills (Lightning) there are some lesser known ones that are quite devastating and effective. Hatred/Bolt of Hatred, Force Storm, Drain, Fear, Rage, Illusions (although this would be indirect harm, caused by fatal flaws/mistakes by the person fooled), control mind, etc.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-19 06:28pm

I thought that several of the "Tales" books were apocrypha?

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2003-07-19 06:31pm

As another note, the Darkside sourcebook lists Palps in all eras as having constructed and having his own lightsaber. (Sidious and the Emperor).

Matt7 · Post by **Matt7** » 2003-07-23 10:42pm

Lord_Xerxes wrote:
Stravo wrote:Jesus guys, I was just putting forth a theory that sounded cool. I guess no one expects the EU Inquisistion.
Furthermore, I believe Stravo also made the point that Darksiders, Dark Jedi, and Sith are not limited by Force Lighting as their only offensive Force skill. Other than the other obvious skills (Lightning) there are some lesser known ones that are quite devastating and effective. Hatred/Bolt of Hatred, Force Storm, Drain, Fear, Rage, Illusions (although this would be indirect harm, caused by fatal flaws/mistakes by the person fooled), control mind, etc.

Are you talking about/including the dark jedi abilities in JK/JKII, or do those not count?

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-07-23 10:54pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I thought that several of the "Tales" books were apocrypha?

I thought only those with the "Infinities" label were.

Just thought I'd add that even though lightsabers block Force-Lightning, had Luke not thrown his lightsaber away Palpatine probably would've flung it out of his hand for him. Or Force choked him. Or whatever. Let's face it: Palpy > ROTJ Luke.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-07-23 10:56pm

The entire Tales series is Infinities, and is thus apocryphal.

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2003-07-24 12:58am

Matt7 wrote:
Lord_Xerxes wrote:
Stravo wrote:Jesus guys, I was just putting forth a theory that sounded cool. I guess no one expects the EU Inquisistion.
Furthermore, I believe Stravo also made the point that Darksiders, Dark Jedi, and Sith are not limited by Force Lighting as their only offensive Force skill. Other than the other obvious skills (Lightning) there are some lesser known ones that are quite devastating and effective. Hatred/Bolt of Hatred, Force Storm, Drain, Fear, Rage, Illusions (although this would be indirect harm, caused by fatal flaws/mistakes by the person fooled), control mind, etc.
Are you talking about/including the dark jedi abilities in JK/JKII, or do those not count?

Some of the abilities are shown in those games, But I was refering to the Darkside Sourcebook, which is higher up on the level of canon.