Top Ten Lies Men Tell Women

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2003-07-22 09:09pm

Of course I'll still respect you in the morning!

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-07-22 09:20pm

I have two things to say, firstly I would not want to have to pay the author's Alimony and divorce lawyer bills, I mean he seems like the kind of womeniser who would make Al from Quantum Leap seem like a completley monogomus man.... sheesh.

I would also like to say that I am in awe of Zaia's greatness....

::bows in worship::

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-07-22 09:58pm

Ghost Rider wrote:Not because I get too bored or roll my eyes...but my tastes in clothing ranges from dreadful to grotesque. I honestly have little understanding of what is in or not.

Clo...thing?

Wazzat?

Oh, the stuff you wear, right?

j/k

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-07-22 10:05pm

YT300000 wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Not because I get too bored or roll my eyes...but my tastes in clothing ranges from dreadful to grotesque. I honestly have little understanding of what is in or not.
Clo...thing? Wazzat?

Oh, the stuff you wear, right?

j/k

Actually you're not too far off on how I view clothing.

I have casual and dress...I don't have much else in consideration how things looks except some solid colors match, others don't.

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2003-07-22 10:37pm

Clothes...there those funny things that keep you warm arnt they? I have the fashion sense of a caveman, hence make the worst shopping partner. When you have no style, telling your beloved what looks good and what doesnt can be very straining, as 90% there is no agreement.

On telling lies in a relationship, I would ask why would/should you have to? True, sometimes a little mistruth might lessen an argument, but isnt honesty crucial when two people are together?

Heres a question for you Zaia, when is it ok for a guy to lie to woman. Personally I dont think it is ever, but Id like your opinion

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-07-22 11:28pm

Ghost Rider wrote:Not because I get too bored or roll my eyes...but my tastes in clothing ranges from dreadful to grotesque. I honestly have little understanding of what is in or not.

That doesn't work for me. I have a friend who would still take me along, even though she knows I have all the fashion sense of an inbred cross between a snake and a baboon (and that's being generous), especially when it comes to the "in" thing to wear.

She just won't ask my opinion, just drag me along and have me hold her stuff.

Though it isn't that bad. Even though there's little chance of closet action (just friends, after all), she seemed to like the more revealing things. Or at least thin and white. So I did get to see some very pleasing images that made me wish ever so dearly I could go in that closet with her.

Wisely, I kept my mouth shut on that one, but did make some "joking" comments along those general lines.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-23 01:31am

Nick Fielding wrote:Number 10: No, you don't look fat

I say that all the time, and it's not a lie. Rebecca does not look fat.

Number 9: I don't enjoy going to strip joints

I've told Rebecca the same thing I've told all of you. I think strip joints are briefly enjoyable but overrated. I've also told her every time I've gone to one.

Number 8: We'll talk about it later

This one is stupid. I always believe in hashing out a problem right away, without giving it time to fester.

Number 7: You remind me of Jennifer Lopez

I never compare Rebecca to famous people. I don't see the point in doing so. I do sometimes remind her that famous people never look as good in real life as they do on TV with movie makeup and all the other tricks of the trade.

Number 6: I love your cooking

Since I have lowbrow culinary tastes and actually enjoy a $3 hamburger, I've never has cause to dislike Rebecca's cooking. What the fuck kind of conversations does this idiot have with his girlfriends, if he's ever actually had any?

Number 5: I don't think of other women

Since we watch pornography together, it would be ridiculous of me to tell her that I never think about other women in a sexual way. I do tell her that she is the only woman I love, need, or want, which is true.

Number 4: You can use my razor to shave your legs

I use an electric razor.

Number 3: I love Meg Ryan movies

I've never lied to her about my distaste for "chick flicks". She, for her part, has never lied to me about her distaste for violent action movies.

Number 2: I love spending time with your mom

Rebecca knows perfectly well what I think of my in-laws.

Number 1: I'm sorry

If Rebecca is emotionally hurt by something I've said or done, I really am sorry and I immediately try to undo the damage. Why would someone lie about that? Identifying problems if and when they occur, and rectifying them quickly and honestly is the technique I've used to keep my marriage going smoothly for 11 years now, and I see no reason to change my approach.

Lists like this are made out of a somewhat homoerotic urge to show other guys what a he-man you are. It's really no different from the "girls are icky" stage, except that this guy hasn't grown out of it.

Post by **Zaia** » 2003-07-23 01:46am

pellaeons_scion wrote:Heres a question for you Zaia, when is it ok for a guy to lie to woman. Personally I dont think it is ever, but Id like your opinion

Hmmm... That's a tough one. I'm sure there are certain situations where it would be ok, but generally it's not a good idea. Like, I suppose if my boyfriend's friend told him something important--let's say my bf's friend tells my bf he's gay, but he hasn't come out yet. That would be a secret I would expect my bf to keep, since he promised his friend he wouldn't tell anyone.

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2003-07-23 01:50am

So aside from personal secrets of people important to him you'd expect the truth in all things? If so, excellent.

My own personal experiences with 'truth and honesty' in relationships arnt so great

ta Zaia

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-23 01:54am

pellaeons_scion wrote:My own personal experiences with 'truth and honesty' in relationships arnt so great

Care to elaborate? It's worked for me for more than a decade running.

Post by **Zaia** » 2003-07-23 01:56am

pellaeons_scion wrote:So aside from personal secrets of people important to him you'd expect the truth in all things? If so, excellent.

Yes, although I should say, there are different ways in which to deliver the truth. I think that a certain degree of sensitivity should be used with certain subjects, but both people should definitely be honest with each other at all times. Unless there's some extenuating circumstance as previously noted.

My own personal experiences with 'truth and honesty' in relationships arnt so great

Ahh. I'm sorry to hear that, babe.

ta Zaia

Ta? Awww, that makes me miss Australia. *sighs*

Post by **Zaia** » 2003-07-23 01:57am

Darth Wong wrote:
pellaeons_scion wrote:My own personal experiences with 'truth and honesty' in relationships arnt so great
Care to elaborate? It's worked for me for more than a decade running.

I could be mistaken, but it sounded to me like it was the other person in the relationship who was having issues with truth and honesty...

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2003-07-23 02:05am

Dont want to hjack the thread but you did ask so..

Ok, and this is just my experiences. I have been in several relationships in which I did my best to always be honest about feelings and emotions and events, thinking that perhaps if I was honest they would be too. Not so.

Seems that they used my honesty as an effective foil to other schemes they had plotted, or worse, twist what I had said into an argument which there was usually no escape except capitulation. So, in a way the mistruths were almost forced upon me to attempt to reach a 'compromise'. Compromise being "Tell me what I want to hear". Maybe you can read honesty for naivete there but still...from my experience its harder to stand by your principles, even if you believe them to be true, especially if your partner doesnt want the truth really.

Case in point: GF picks up a shirt ( cant remember which) and asks "What do you think of this" truth was I didnt like it very much, but she did, but I figured she did ask so I told her I didnt like it. It was a very silent drive home, with many jabs about how nice that shirt would have looked...Its a small example, but there are many similar. We wont go into theft, cheating, and generally being not very nice

Just an aside I know not all females are like this, but Im batting 0 in the honest female department. Ill still keep trying, but I am a tad more cynical. Spose you learn from your experiences...but damn its painful. I still think honesty and truth is integral to communication in a relationship, I gues I just havent worked out when to speak my mind and when to shut my mouth

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-23 02:05am

Zaia wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
pellaeons_scion wrote:My own personal experiences with 'truth and honesty' in relationships arnt so great
Care to elaborate? It's worked for me for more than a decade running.
I could be mistaken, but it sounded to me like it was the other person in the relationship who was having issues with truth and honesty...

The trick, of course, is in the delivery. For example:

GIRL: If you see a girl with a nice body walking down the street in revealing clothes, will you look at her?
GUY: If you see a well-muscled guy walking down the street in nothing but a Speedo, will you look at him?
GIRL: Yes.
GUY: Yes.

Of course, if she says "No", then you can talk to her about her dishonesty. Of course, some people are just habitually dishonest and cannot operate in an open environment, but that's a reflection on the person, not the policy of being honest.

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2003-07-23 02:16am

I could be mistaken, but it sounded to me like it was the other person in the relationship who was having issues with truth and honesty...

Yeah Zaia, your probably right. I just find more than my share of these type. Ah well, Ill just keep on smiling and searching:D No point being glum

As for you missing australia, Im sure you'd be a welcome addition here:)

The trick, of course, is in the delivery. For example:

GIRL: If you see a girl with a nice body walking down the street in revealing clothes, will you look at her?
GUY: If you see a well-muscled guy walking down the street in nothing but a Speedo, will you look at him?
GIRL: Yes.
GUY: Yes.

Of course, if she says "No", then you can talk to her about her dishonesty. Of course, some people are just habitually dishonest and cannot operate in an open environment, but that's a reflection on the person, not the policy of being honest.

DW A great idea, but I have actually tried that one. And at least 2 said 'no' and said that "when they were with me I was all they looked at" The bullshit meter rang off the scale, but I just sighed and accepted it, meant one less argument..

Sometimes being single is far more fun:)

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-23 02:41am

pellaeons_scion wrote:DW A great idea, but I have actually tried that one. And at least 2 said 'no' and said that "when they were with me I was all they looked at" The bullshit meter rang off the scale, but I just sighed and accepted it, meant one less argument..

Actually, it means that you're dealing with a dishonest person and that's a bad sign for the future, so you might as well cut your losses and leave.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-23 02:47am

"Do I look fat in this" isn't nearly as bad as "do you like small breasts"

Reason:

"Yes"

"You think my breasts are small!!!"

"No"

"You don't like my breasts!"

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-07-23 02:49am

I quoted something from somewhere (I can't remember where) when I was asked the breast question;

For men, the question of breasts is the same as the question; do we prefer Coke or Pepsi? The answer is that while we might express a preference, at the end of the day we'll take whatever is on tap.

Try that next time.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-23 02:50am

Vympel wrote:"Do I look fat in this" isn't nearly as bad as "do you like small breasts"

Reason:

"Yes"

"You think my breasts are small!!!"

"No"

"You don't like my breasts!"

Better response: "Actually, I'm a leg and ass-man, and yours are beautiful".

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-07-23 02:55am

Darth Wong wrote:Better response: "Actually, I'm a leg and ass-man, and yours are beautiful".

Chicks don't fall for that, not since Seinfeld's; 'I have legs, why would I be a leg man?'. I have had that thrown at me once or twice.

It's not that we are necessarily lying when men say we are a legs and ass man (Tea Leoni anyone?), it's just they usually believe that all men are breasts men and that some of those branch out to 'legs and ass'.

It's been a while since I did probability, that's a union or something right (A U B)? Anyway, trust me the 'we'll take whatever is on tap' is honest and straight to the point, the worst you'll get is a scoff and a generalisation about men being pigs.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-07-23 02:56am

if you can respond to a yes or no question without using yes or no, then do so.

Scenario 1:
"Do you like big dicks?"
"Yes."
"So you dont like my dick cause its not big, do you?"
"I never said that!"
"So then 6 inches is big?"
"Well, no.."

Scenario 2:
"Do you like big dicks?"
"I like any sized dick I can get my lips around."
"Good then put your lips around mine"

See? Scenario 2 leaves everyone happy.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-23 02:56am

Gee I thought the shallow male lies were all contained in the R&B classic "Son of a Preacher Man"

I'm all yours.

Everything is alright

I'll always love you

Everything will be just fine. (I won't get you preggers)

etc.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-07-23 02:58am

Or you could just say "Size is only one factor. I like breasts which are nice, as yours are. "

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-23 03:01am

Crown wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Better response: "Actually, I'm a leg and ass-man, and yours are beautiful".
Chicks don't fall for that, not since Seinfeld's; 'I have legs, why would I be a leg man?'. I have had that thrown at me once or twice.

Then you simply answer that her legs don't look like yours.

It's not that we are necessarily lying when men say we are a legs and ass man (Tea Leoni anyone?), it's just they usually believe that all men are breasts men and that some of those branch out to 'legs and ass'.

The "leg and ass-man" thing is the truth in my case. When Rebecca was breast-feeding our kids, her boobs grew considerably, but it was of no great importance to me.

Drewcifer · Post by **Drewcifer** » 2003-07-23 03:03am

Looking at other people? Everyone does it. That hasn't ever really bothered me. If a relationship can't handle someone checking someone else out briefly, there's bigger problems going on, ya know?

Shopping? heh why pass up a chance to check out your girlfriend? It's one of the few times she won't mind you staring at her

Too, as long as they return the favor every so often, when you want to go look for CD's or whatever, it's all good in the long run. (and if you're a leg man, go shopping for shoes with your gf in the summer!)

Lying? Stupid. Minor league bull-shitting, that's life, but outright lying? Wrong and stupid. Same for saying you're sorry if you don't mean it. But I agree, if you've done something hurtful, why wouldn't you be sorry for real?

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