Would a stardestroyer REALLY be able to orbit earth?

[Omega-13]

Let us say, for a moment, that a stardestroyer decides to orbit earth at a distance like we see in the movies, ,would something that weighs 40 million tons have a huge effect on our ecological system?

Just curious

[Dark Hellion]

You mean besides the huge affects thousand kilometer fireballs would have on the ecology

[Hasler]

No it shouldnt effect anything. It is incredibly small compared to the planet. I think mar's moons are 16 kilometers and they dont affect it.

[Xenophobe3691]

Let us say, for a moment, that a stardestroyer decides to orbit earth at a distance like we see in the movies, ,would something that weighs 40 million tons have a huge effect on our ecological system?

Just curious

40 million tons is a drop in Earth's Oceans, let alone the entire damn mass of the Earth. Even the Moon isn't heavy enough to shift the center of gravity outside of the Earth's sphere

[Howedar]

Let us say, for a moment, that a stardestroyer decides to orbit earth at a distance like we see in the movies, ,would something that weighs 40 million tons have a huge effect on our ecological system?

Just curious

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[Master of Ossus]

An ISD would only affect the Earth's orbit on an incredibly small level. The DS's entry into orbit might actually affect it significantly, but in all honesty I don't see how either would affect the ecology of an Earth-like planet to any appreciable degree.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

It would be quite interesting to see what an ISD or an SSD would look like from the surface if they were in about the same orbits as Phobos or Deimos. I'm thinking an SSD would look slightly smaller than Phobos at the same angular distance, but with an extremely distinctive arrowhead shape. An ISD would probly look like a brilliant white point (it looked like it had white paint in the movies) that resolves into the familiar ISD shape in a small telescope. Needless to say, an ISD in LEO would look quite spectacular!

[RedImperator]

It would be quite interesting to see what an ISD or an SSD would look like from the surface if they were in about the same orbits as Phobos or Deimos. I'm thinking an SSD would look slightly smaller than Phobos at the same angular distance, but with an extremely distinctive arrowhead shape. An ISD would probly look like a brilliant white point (it looked like it had white paint in the movies) that resolves into the familiar ISD shape in a small telescope. Needless to say, an ISD in LEO would look quite spectacular!

A lot would depend in the Executor's case on whether it's broad or narrow surfaces were facing the planet. IIRC also, the ventral surface is a little brighter than the dorsal surface (this is going on a MicroMachines model, so don't take this at face value). If the sides were facing us, all we'd see is a line, maybe a little thicker on one end. The ISD, OTOH, would look pretty much like a dagger unless it had its bow or stern pointed directly as us.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

It would be quite interesting to see what an ISD or an SSD would look like from the surface if they were in about the same orbits as Phobos or Deimos. I'm thinking an SSD would look slightly smaller than Phobos at the same angular distance, but with an extremely distinctive arrowhead shape. An ISD would probly look like a brilliant white point (it looked like it had white paint in the movies) that resolves into the familiar ISD shape in a small telescope. Needless to say, an ISD in LEO would look quite spectacular!

A lot would depend in the Executor's case on whether it's broad or narrow surfaces were facing the planet. IIRC also, the ventral surface is a little brighter than the dorsal surface (this is going on a MicroMachines model, so don't take this at face value). If the sides were facing us, all we'd see is a line, maybe a little thicker on one end. The ISD, OTOH, would look pretty much like a dagger unless it had its bow or stern pointed directly as us.

Ah crap I knew I shoulda taken the ships' facing relative to the observer into account... LOL

/me is lazy...

[jenat-lai]

Its only a mile long right? Orbiting at an altitude of at LEAST 170km high (lowest it can be without deorbiting in a few hours due to atmospheric drag, and even there it'd need a few extra 'boosts' every day to keep it in orbit and not loose speed due to drag) It's tidal force would be, what shall we say. "Neglegible" would be polite. "Non existant" wouldn't be far off. A more stable orbit would have it at around the 350 to 400km high area. Facing level to the surface, ie the majority of it's /\ shape showing, maybe inverted (ie bridge side to surface) it'd be quite bright, considering how bright they are painted. Not visible in the day perhaps, but early evening, early morning for sure. Face down, it'd be still bright, but likley smaller (though when where talking about something as big as a " . " then meh. Deathstar in Low Earth Orbit (350km) might be something fun. prolly twice the size of the moon. sure it would have some funky tidal forces happening maybe (MAYBE) but again, compared to the planet, it's not exactly huge. Though I wouldn't wanna see some funny green light suddenly appear near that crater type of thing...

[Spanky The Dolphin]

I can't believe that this is really being asked...

x e^100

[Stormbringer]

Moved to Pure Star Wars where this belongs.

[Sea Skimmer]

An ISD is probably billions of tons given all the ultra dense armor and unbotainium construction. However it wouldn't matter, the Earth masses 6,600 million trillion tons and the moon 80 million trillion tons. A few billion tons won't affect much of anything. maybe you'd be able to find small difference in the tides, but thermal expansion on any given day would probably give more variance.

[Darth Garden Gnome]

Shit, I hope we're not planning on finishing the ISS anytime soon, or the ecosystem will be no more. We're doomed I say! DOOMED!!!

[Isolder74]

Let us say, for a moment, that a star destroyer decides to orbit earth at a distance like we see in the movies, ,would something that weighs 40 million tons have a huge effect on our ecological system?

Just curious

And how much mass does the MOON HAVE the Earth seems to be able to manage have a odject orbiting it 1/4 the size of itself I don't think that the Earth would even notice the Star Destroyer until the thing opens up on the planet. The tides would not even be affected by this new mass in orbit. Of course if the fired on the moon until it disintigrated into little tiny bits then yes it would affect our Ecological System.

Earth Mass = 5.98 X 10^24 Kg

your SD Mass = 40,000,000,000 Kg(asumming mtons)

F = G(M1)(M2)/r^2

so force pull on earth by Sd = G(6.67 X 10^-11)(40,000,000,000 kg)(5.98 X 10^24 kg)/(350,000 m + 6.37 X10^6)^2

1.20 X 10^11 N = 7.91 X 10^9 Lb of pull

The Moon on Earth = G(6.67 X 10^-11)(7.35 X 10^23 kg)(5.98 X 10^24 kg)/(3.82 X 10^8 m)^2

1.98 X 10^21 N = 4.45 X 10^20 Lb of pull

difference in force = 1.98 X 10^21 N(4.45 X 10^20 Lb)

That is a big difference! The SD doesn't even hold a candle to the moon! <edit to clarify>The difference is not seen because of significant digits. But it is there but compared to moons pull it is insignificant

[Frank Hipper]

I can't believe that this is really being asked...

x e^100

You and I both, Senor Dolphin.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

I can't believe that this is really being asked...

x e^100

You and I both, Senor Dolphin.

You two and I troth., Senors Hipper and Dolphin...

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Its only a mile long right? Orbiting at an altitude of at LEAST 170km high (lowest it can be without deorbiting in a few hours due to atmospheric drag, and even there it'd need a few extra 'boosts' every day to keep it in orbit and not loose speed due to drag) It's tidal force would be, what shall we say. "Neglegible" would be polite. "Non existant" wouldn't be far off. A more stable orbit would have it at around the 350 to 400km high area. Facing level to the surface, ie the majority of it's /\ shape showing, maybe inverted (ie bridge side to surface) it'd be quite bright, considering how bright they are painted. Not visible in the day perhaps, but early evening, early morning for sure. Face down, it'd be still bright, but likley smaller (though when where talking about something as big as a " . " then meh. Deathstar in Low Earth Orbit (350km) might be something fun. prolly twice the size of the moon. sure it would have some funky tidal forces happening maybe (MAYBE) but again, compared to the planet, it's not exactly huge. Though I wouldn't wanna see some funny green light suddenly appear near that crater type of thing...

Interesting idea. I don't see why an ISD wouldn't fly 'inverted', since its dorsal HTLs would have a nice coverage on the planet...

This assumes the planet is neutral and/or Rebel anyway. ISDs orbiting pacified or Imperial worlds would show no particular preference in facing relative to the planet.

[Darth Wong]

Yet again, Omega-13 demonstrates that he is a Village Idiot.

[DPDarkPrimus]

Yet again, Omega-13 demonstrates that he is a Village Idiot.

*budda-bum-CHINK*

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Yet again, Omega-13 demonstrates that he is a Village Idiot.

ROFLMAO!!

[YT300000]

Yet again, Omega-13 demonstrates that he is a Village Idiot.

ROFLMAO!!

Its not funny Ein.

Its fucking hilarious!

[jenat-lai]

An ISD in orbit around earth would make a huge impact on earth's ecology... if it opened fire

[aerius]

Let us say, for a moment, that a stardestroyer decides to orbit earth at a distance like we see in the movies, ,would something that weighs 40 million tons have a huge effect on our ecological system?

Lemme answer your question with another question. Does your dick reach your ass?

[Dark Hellion]

An ISD in orbit around earth would make a huge impact on earth's ecology... if it opened fire

With stupid questions like this it wouldn't take long. I think we can safely say good-bye to Omega-13's home state.