CALIFORNIA SDNET'ers, THE RECALL IS ON

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-07-24 01:00am

If you can vote, how are you going to vote? Or if you dont want to disclose that what do you think?

LT.Hit-Man · Post by **LT.Hit-Man** » 2003-07-24 02:00am

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-07-24 02:07am

No shit, they're actually going to try to recall Gray Davis. This sends happy little tingles up my spine. Now if we could only do the same to Governor Jim here.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-07-24 02:11am

Depending on who the Republicans put up this coul be interesting. a long as it isn't Simon.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-07-24 02:12am

RedImperator wrote:No shit, they're actually going to try to recall Gray Davis. This sends happy little tingles up my spine. Now if we could only do the same to Governor Jim here.

yes, it was just announced that THere were more than enough signatures need for the special election.

Thoguh Cali citizens must vote to see if a new election should take place, and if they vote yes, then we vote for governor all over again.

Ahnold anyone?

Sr.mal · Post by **Sr.mal** » 2003-07-24 03:33am

Ahnold sounds good to me. He has my vote. But that is just because he called my house during the last election looking for support for Rierdon

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-07-24 04:36am

As long as it isnt Davis or Simon

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-24 09:41am

Sounds like the democrats strategy may be to only have Davis run in an attempt to shift the issue from his horrible record to the big evil republican power grab.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-24 09:48am

Sea Skimmer wrote:Sounds like the democrats strategy may be to only have Davis run in an attempt to shift the issue from his horrible record to the big evil republican power grab.

*shrugs* Then just make sure that Ah-nuld is on the ballot and turn it into a popularity contest, which Davis is inevitably going to lose. As long as he picks competent advisors he'll put California right, and even surrounded by blithering idiots can't make things worse--and if he enters the race, he wins.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-07-24 10:55am

If I lived in Cali, then it would be Ahnold! Just imagine him debating an issue with state representives.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-07-24 01:08pm

If he ever wants to be governor, this is his chance right now. He can't wait until the end of Davis (or his successor's term). If he waits and Davis wins, the Republicans will resent him for getting them stuck with Davis for three more years. If he waits and Davis loses, he's going to be running against a Republican incumbent in the primary, and if he does beat the incumbent, it's likely his opponent fucked up so badly the voters aren't in the mood to elect any Republicans.

Christ, for that matter, let's hope the fucking Republicans don't shoot themselves in the foot by endorsing Simon or that other schmuck and tearing itself apart in the primaries.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-07-24 03:30pm

I dont think there should be a recall since we all had a chance to put someone else in the Governor's seat at the last election. I personally think a recall should be for something like criminal behavior which nobody is claiming at this point.

However, since it is coming I will probably vote for Riordin if he runs and if not maybe Feinstein. Simon is a no go, and I dont think Id vote for Arnold. Although if he wins, Im gonna see if I can get people to call him Governor McBain.

My plan is to vote no for the recall, but pick Riordin (republican) or Feinstein (democrat) as my choices should the recall happen.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-07-24 05:03pm

IMHO, the Repubicans are shooting themselves in the foot with this recall.
Even if Davis gets the boot, the new Governor has the same old Legislature to deal with.
You know, the one that can't agree on how to balance the budget.

All that'll happen is that Davis's successor will get the blame for the Legislature's inability to accomplish anything.

The wise move would be to just sit back and watch the Democrats self destruct over the next couple of years.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-07-24 05:55pm

I'm pretty sure Arnold will run. Riordan doesn't want to run, and is actually pushing our favorite Austrian to run.

I'll vote for him, because he's intelligent, progressive, and to hear him make speeches.

I can't wait to see him driving around Sacramento in his humvee.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-07-24 07:14pm

ARNOLD!
ARNOLD!
ARNOLD!

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-07-24 07:18pm

A question. What experience does Arnold have in political science or law?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-24 07:25pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:A question. What experience does Arnold have in political science or law?

None that I'm aware of, which I say is a good thing. He does have plenty of experience running businesses, not a bad thing for a state with such a fucked up budget.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-07-24 07:28pm

A shame he wasn't born American

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-07-24 07:34pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:None that I'm aware of, which I say is a good thing. He does have plenty of experience running businesses, not a bad thing for a state with such a fucked up budget.

How is not having experience in law and pol-sci a good thing when the candidate is running for a large government office? Without any experience, he'd be a figurehead, not a qualified governer.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-07-24 07:36pm

Thats all a governor ever has been and ever will be: a figurehead.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-07-24 07:52pm

Howedar wrote:Thats all a governor ever has been and ever will be: a figurehead.

Then the position is meaningless.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-07-24 07:58pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:How is not having experience in law and pol-sci a good thing when the candidate is running for a large government office? Without any experience, he'd be a figurehead, not a qualified governer.

Not even the best governors know everything there is to know on every issue. What means more to you, experience or character?

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-07-24 08:02pm

One picture is worth a thousand words:

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-07-24 08:04pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:Not even the best governors know everything there is to know on every issue. What means more to you, experience or character?

Experience, easy. I'd much rather have an elected official that knows what he's doing than one who only got elected because he in summer blockbusters. The latter is meaningless, since all his advisors would be doing all the thinking and he'd just be sitting their smiling and reading what others have wrote for him. In that case, he might as well be gotten rid of and the state be governed directly by the commit that is running it anyway.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-07-24 09:53pm

Arnold is actually a very intelligent man.

Problem is with political experience, that's different from management experience.

Political experience is 10% management, 60% ass-kissing, and 30% concenscious building

Arnold's experience is
20% ass-kissing/popularity
I can't see the state legislatator no agreeing to Arnold's request. That would be political suicide. 'HE DIDN"T VOTE WITH THE TERMINATOR! VOTE HIM OUT!'
60% Business management.
20% Fund-Raising/Concensicious building.

He will be a good governor if elected. And how is his chance.
Better yet for him
If he pulls California out of it's current 'slump', in 2008, I can see him as the Republican candiate for President, and winning