EU character in Episode III confirmed.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-07-25 06:02am

My guess is that it won't be some big cameo, but rather some small thing that they're just hyping for marketing reasons. Probably won't even have any lines. For instance, remember how Quinlan Vos was in EI?

It might not even be an EU character that's been introduced yet. Could be from some game or book yet to come out.

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-07-25 06:32am

Could be Borssk F'eyla also...

Maybe the BDZ of Camaas will be shown in Ep 3?!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-25 06:42am

I think it was under a general consensus that the BDZing of Camaas didn't occur during Episode III's timeframe...

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-07-25 06:43am

Didn't know that...I'm sorry!

On the other hand the Empire BDZed Camaas so your point is logical.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-25 06:45am

Well, truth be told, I'm not 100% sure of it. It's almost 6 AM and I haven't gone to bed yet, so for all I know, my brain could be pissed off and lying to me for it's own amusement...

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-07-25 06:49am

Yes, I saw on your brother's pic that you like to take a nap in the daytime.

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2003-07-25 07:35am

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:CGI Stormtroopers? What's next, are they going to have Bea Arthur play Padme and use CGI so nobody can tell?

The clonetroopers were CGI in Ep 2 and they looked really good. I dont see how they would fux0r up with making Stormies CGI.

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2003-07-25 08:28am

Garm Bel Iblis, the corellian senator

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-07-25 08:57am

Grand Admiral Thrawn, played by Keanu Reeves.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-07-25 09:19am

Meanwhile Knoll says the Stormtroopers will "still be CGI and they'll be noticably different",

It is still possible that the Stormies are not clones unless we go to the path that different people have been clone.....

~Jason

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-07-25 09:22am

What about Daala? Maybe we'll see her as Tarkin's assistant. She was sent into the Maw with her 4 ISD's before the events of ANH but i'm not sure when. My other guess would be thr Nogri people. Maybe we see the battle that devistates their planet. After all in the HttE trilogy Leia realises the damage was caused by clone wars vinatge ships.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-07-25 10:15am

[EDIT: Nevermind]

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-07-25 10:15am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Grand Admiral Thrawn, played by Keanu Reeves.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-07-25 11:57am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Grand Admiral Thrawn, played by Keanu Reeves.

DIE! YOU DIE NOW! DIE!

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-07-25 12:03pm

"Grand Admiral, we have an enemy fleet in attack formation, they just came out of nowhere."

"Whoa."

Darth Mall · Post by **Darth Mall** » 2003-07-25 12:11pm

It could be raith sienar showing his new tie models

plus wouldn't clone stormies die really fast as they were growth accelerated.so after 25 years the would be fifty year old men

Joe Momma · Post by **Joe Momma** » 2003-07-25 02:26pm

Stravo wrote:"Grand Admiral, we have an enemy fleet in attack formation, they just came out of nowhere."

"Whoa."

"I know tactics."

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-07-25 02:57pm

vakundok wrote:Garm Bel Iblis, the corellian senator

dingdingdingding, we have a winner, albeit unofficial. Five bucks says that the end of Ep III is the Corellian treaty Involving Bail Organna, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis.

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-07-25 03:00pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:
vakundok wrote:Garm Bel Iblis, the corellian senator

dingdingdingding, we have a winner, albeit unofficial. Five bucks says that the end of Ep III is the Corellian treaty Involving Bail Organna, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis.

Uhm, I agree, and add my own 5 bucks to that.

It would help tie in everything, but I wonder how they will work it in...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-25 06:28pm

Stravo appears to have some kind of emotional investment in attacking the EU. In any case, it's no big deal to incorporate an EU character into the movie. The name of Coruscant came from the EU.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-07-25 06:34pm

Darth Wong wrote:Stravo appears to have some kind of emotional investment in attacking the EU. In any case, it's no big deal to incorporate an EU character into the movie. The name of Coruscant came from the EU.

Its the clone stormtrooper issue. That's it. I don't even read the EU anymore as IP knows. When AOTC first came out it was so obvious that here were the stormtroopers in their infancy but then we had a contingent of people who were EU fanatics that cried about how that was not possible, it invalidated much of the EU, etc. The debates with them on the issue have left a very bad taste in my mouth when it comes to EU fanboyz pissing on the artists' vision because it doesn't fit their EU world vision.

Edited to add: anymore. As in don't read the EU anymore.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-07-25 06:39pm

Something similar was done with Aayla Secura in AotC IIRC. I hope this will be subtle like that was.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-07-25 06:46pm

Stravo wrote:When AOTC first came out it was so obvious that here were the stormtroopers in their infancy but then we had a contingent of people who were EU fanatics that cried about how that was not possible, it invalidated much of the EU, etc. The debates with them on the issue have left a very bad taste in my mouth when it comes to EU fanboyz pissing on the artists' vision because it doesn't fit their EU world vision.

Its left a bad taste in my mouth how you analyze movies and stories by your personal taste in writing and then act as if it is even in the same league as logical analysis. I can cite numerous examples: how Palpatine CAN'T be allowed to come back, even though ROTJ was originally meant to deal with Vader but Palpatine was going to live on and be confronted by Luke and sis later, exactly like DE, for example this clone thing, and for example your "Palpatine must not need a lightsabre" and you invented Force lightning that doesn't exist to fit your opinion. I dislike how you force artifical constraints on the SW Saga based on your own personal feelings of the story in SW and your leaps in logic from the theme and such.

Attack of the Clones itself never proved anything about Stormtroopers. In itself, AOTC showed that a secret alien contractor could produce 1.2 million clones in 10 years all identical and based on a single man.

None of those criteria were consistent with the canon reality of the Original Trilogy. Even now, the Stormtroopers are mostly clones, but certainly not the Clonetroopers, and AOTC is not the birth of the Stormtroopers. Both forces have different purposes and radically different scales.

Naturally you ignored all this because the "literary foreshadowing" and "artist's intent" was transcendent to the stark reality of what was in the films to you.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-25 06:46pm

Stravo wrote:Its the clone stormtrooper issue. That's it. I don't even read the EU anymore as IP knows. When AOTC first came out it was so obvious that here were the stormtroopers in their infancy but then we had a contingent of people who were EU fanatics that cried about how that was not possible, it invalidated much of the EU, etc.

It's not just EU fanaticism. The idea of every soldier being a clone is stupid. The per-unit cost would be astronomical compared to conventional recruitment, and a 10 year personnel procurement delay is totally unacceptable unless you can actually plan your troop requirements 10 years in advance.

The debates with them on the issue have left a very bad taste in my mouth when it comes to EU fanboyz pissing on the artists' vision because it doesn't fit their EU world vision.

In this case, the "artist's vision" was poorly thought out. If it can be rationalized in some meaningful way with an idea that makes far more sense, then so be it. I still don't see why you have to attack everyone who resists the stormtroopers = clonetroopers idea as EU fanboys.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-07-25 06:48pm

Darth Wong wrote:In this case, the "artist's vision" was poorly thought out. If it can be rationalized in some meaningful way with an idea that makes far more sense, then so be it. I still don't see why you have to attack everyone who resists the stormtroopers = clonetroopers idea as EU fanboys.

Simple. To Stravo, his subjective literary interpretations are transcendent to the stark canon reality.

Visuals outright destroyed the idea that the clones as seen in AOTC were the Stormtroopers' beginnings since the movie came out.