PREDATOR VS STORMTROOPERS

Damaramu · Post by **Damaramu** » 2002-09-13 04:34pm

Ok. Here's the setup:

Setting:
Forest moon of Endor

Combatants:
1 squad of Imperial stormtroopers, fully equipped with standard issue weaponry, camoflaged stormtrooper armor, and survival gear.

1 Predator, fully equipped with spear, net gun, throwing discs, forearm claws, shoulder cannon, helmet, and invisibility. (basically all the crap from Predator 2)

Situation:
Similar to the movie Predator, the Stormies are dropped off in a area of the forest and have to make their way to an Rebel encampment, where a few high ranking Imperial officers are being held captive. The troops have to make it from point A (start) to B (Rebel camp) and then to C (pick up area). The ISD that dropped them off will return shortly after running off out of the system on some unknown mission.

They can't just drop in on the camp because the startled Rebels might harm the hostages, so they gotta sneak in. The Rebels won't leave the camp as they've already had a few run ins with the Predator, so they're spooked.

It's basically the movie Predator in a Star Wars setting.

There are NO:
Reinforcements, vehicles (speeder bikes, ATST, ATAT, etc), BDZ, orbiting ISD or Death Star. It's just the two teams on foot, nothing else.

How do you the the trooper squad will fare? Will their firepower overwhelm the Predator? Can their helmet sensors pick detect the Predator? Or will they be slowly picked off one by one?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-13 04:39pm

Helemets are 360 Visual(Built in Bionics) Sonic(Enhanced hearing) Infa-red(They can see like the Preadator does) and Sonar(Sound Imaging lets them *see in complete dark like Bats, Not often used)

The Preadtor however has a problem as Camo-Armor is an huge IR represor(Built in AC means no overheating soilders combined with the Camo means he's going to be VERY hard pressed to see them)

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2002-09-13 05:07pm

Mr Bean wrote:Helemets are 360 Visual(Built in Bionics) Sonic(Enhanced hearing) Infa-red(They can see like the Preadator does) and Sonar(Sound Imaging lets them *see in complete dark like Bats, Not often used)

The Preadtor however has a problem as Camo-Armor is an huge IR represor(Built in AC means no overheating soilders combined with the Camo means he's going to be VERY hard pressed to see them)

Pred has more settings than infra-red. A military team tried the same thing, and he used different settings to see them.

Omega-13 · Post by **Omega-13** » 2002-09-13 05:58pm

Darth_Shinji wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:Helemets are 360 Visual(Built in Bionics) Sonic(Enhanced hearing) Infa-red(They can see like the Preadator does) and Sonar(Sound Imaging lets them *see in complete dark like Bats, Not often used)

The Preadtor however has a problem as Camo-Armor is an huge IR represor(Built in AC means no overheating soilders combined with the Camo means he's going to be VERY hard pressed to see them)
Pred has more settings than infra-red. A military team tried the same thing, and he used different settings to see them.

Yea he saw the Ultraviolet lights, so he can see in different wave lengths,
I think once they pick up the predator the first time, he won't be able to get away, they'll blast everything they see, that means trees blowing apart, and they'll chase him. Also, to note, storm trooper might be able to resist a glancing shot from a predators shoulder cannon, the only thing that he can use to harm them, everything else would bounce off.

Also like to mention, that all these guys can see just aswell as the predator can, and there is a squad of them, that means the predators light bending ability means exactly jack shit

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-09-13 09:36pm

A coupel of points... The net gun wil be able to incapacitate a stormie for a while, a spear will knock them down, but not hurt them. The key here for the Pred is to realise that its stealth mode will be ineffectual and use as many KE and energy weapons as it can in as short a time as possible to knock down or stun the stormies, then to go HtH where its dominance is quite clear.

Otherwise the stormies nail it and go and butt-fuck some rebel scum.

Omega-13 · Post by **Omega-13** » 2002-09-13 09:40pm

How will he get close enough? They'll be firing blasters at him

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-09-14 11:39am

Against that many Troopers I think the Predator would lose. Cut the numbers a bit and then well see.

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » 2002-09-14 06:40pm

the pred wudnt just stand there blasting at the stormies, it wud stalk them and wait till they seperate and take them one at a time

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2002-09-14 08:26pm

Blaze wrote:the pred wudnt just stand there blasting at the stormies, it wud stalk them and wait till they seperate and take them one at a time

The stormtroopers do have one serious advantage compared to the commandos of Predator: helmet com-links. Hence, they can coordinate their actions much better than the commandos.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-14 08:32pm

the pred wudnt just stand there blasting at the stormies, it wud stalk them and wait till they seperate and take them one at a time

Riiight Except Stormys don't seperate under nearly any circumstance, And they always report in when doing anything from closing the ziper on thier fly to going to investgate somthing, This are battle harden troops here who are trained to work as a unit not inviduals, Half the purpose of the Armor is PR, Both for the soilders and for the people they meet. Remeber they can see him... 360 vision in Infa-red means they can see him just as clearly as he can seem them.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-09-14 10:29pm

Incidentally, does Predator have any non-KE weapons?

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » 2002-09-15 07:49am

check this site out for info on preds weapons, armour ect.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Highrise/7256/

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » 2002-09-15 07:53am

also how troopers are there in a squad?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-15 08:22am

Depends on which unit, Generaly its eight to ten depending on your source, either two groups of four or two groups of five

Damaramu · Post by **Damaramu** » 2002-09-22 05:27am

How does trooper armor stand up against the Pred's shoulder cannon?

We all know what it does to unarmored humans (blows hole right through torso, severs arm, etc.)

Can trooper armor withstand that? Can the pred get off enough shots? It seems it fires at about a rate of 1 shot every 2-3 seconds. I may be off on that.

BTW, there is an awesome (but speculative) article from a 1987-88 issue of Starlog about the predators. A very good read.

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » 2002-09-22 08:51am

the preds shoulder cannon fires powerful burst of plasma, so i wud think it wud penetrate stormie armour at least as well as a blaster

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-22 09:08am

For our purposes we will assume its = to an E-11

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-09-22 09:15am

Not that I know what I am talking about here, but would the Stormie's armour be heat absorbant? If so wouldn't they be just as hard to see for the predator as Arnie was when covered in mud? Just a thought...

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-22 09:32am

Not that I know what I am talking about here, but would the Stormie's armour be heat absorbant? If so wouldn't they be just as hard to see for the predator as Arnie was when covered in mud? Just a thought...

If you check back a page you'll see that was already covered, Stormys are all but invisible in IR but the Preditor can see in Ultraviolt too

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-09-22 09:38am

Well who would have thought that reading would have been usefull?

Damn!

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2002-09-22 10:29am

Damaramu wrote:How does trooper armor stand up against the Pred's shoulder cannon?

We all know what it does to unarmored humans (blows hole right through torso, severs arm, etc.)

Can trooper armor withstand that? Can the pred get off enough shots? It seems it fires at about a rate of 1 shot every 2-3 seconds. I may be off on that.

Hmmm... Let me dig up my copy of the Star Wars Visual Dictionary...

Stormtrooper armour is impervious to projectile weapons and blast shrapnel. It may be pierced by a direct bolt, but will deflect glancing bolts and reduce damage from bolts absorbed.

Does that help?

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-09-22 10:44am

Farce, love the new Avatar!

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-09-22 10:51am

The Stormtroopers will most likely get the Predator with time and some heavy losses. The real question is will they be in any condition to fight with the Rebels time they are done playing with the Predator.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-22 11:42am

Not realy, Ten VS 1, Ten is praticly invislbe to the 1 and the 1 has roughly the same weapons as the 1?

Slaughter of the Pred, he gets one, three tops and he's gone

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » 2002-09-22 01:18pm

i think the pred still has a beeter chance than most of u r giving him, the storm troops r going to assume its the rebels attacking them and the pred is far superior to humans

while in this case he may be outmatched i think if he were going to hunt storm troopers he wud have more high tech weapons/armour/gagets then when dealing with sum 20th century comados

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