Bruckheimer and Bay inflict another atrocity on the world

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-29 12:03pm

Bad Boys 2. The reviews on rottentomatoes had me in stitches. Do head on over there if you want a laugh. Easily the biggest panning I've seen since ... well ... Pearl Harbour.

How the fuck do these people still get to make movies? Their films fucking SUCK. Who's paying for this shit? Who the fuck's watching it?

Sound off on the worst Bruckheimer and/or Bay film.

As The Critic said in his ill-fated cartoon: "If you stop GOING to bad movies, they will stop MAKING bad movies."

Can we all obey, please?

And it's 147 minutes long! Fuck this pisses me off. All these promising films never getting made thanks to this shit.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-07-29 12:08pm

BB2 was a popcorn flick that made me laugh for just how stupidily outlandish it all was, reminded me of a pure over the top outlandish action flick(hey...when you can get in for free because you know the manager...you tend to complain less

)

But yeah it wasn't exactly a good flick...though in comparison to Tomb Raider 2?

It was a fucking godsend...at least with BB2 I didn't want to hurl.

One I could laugh at how dumb and recommend to friends on that basis...TR2, I can't even do that.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-07-29 12:28pm

It's kind of unfortunate when the RT reviews are so much better than the film in question...

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-29 12:31pm

Ghost Rider, You didn't go to Tomb Raider 2 expecting something worthwhile, did you?

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-07-29 12:46pm

If it's any consolation Spy Kids made $32 million opening weekend compared to TR2 which made $21~ million.

Ahh the Critic, we hardly knew ye, it was back for a while on atom.com, but I haven't seen much of it lately.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-07-29 12:59pm

Vympel wrote:Bad Boys 2. The reviews on rottentomatoes had me in stitches. Do head on over there if you want a laugh. Easily the biggest panning I've seen since ... well ... Pearl Harbour.

How the fuck do these people still get to make movies? Their films fucking SUCK. Who's paying for this shit? Who the fuck's watching it?

Sound off on the worst Bruckheimer and/or Bay film.

As The Critic said in his ill-fated cartoon: "If you stop GOING to bad movies, they will stop MAKING bad movies."

Can we all obey, please?

And it's 147 minutes long! Fuck this pisses me off. All these promising films never getting made thanks to this shit.

this is why they get made:

box office mojo wrote: Total as of Jul. 27, 2003: $88,503,074

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=badboys2.htm

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-07-29 01:12pm

Frank Hipper wrote:Ghost Rider, You didn't go to Tomb Raider 2 expecting something worthwhile, did you?

No...but I expected at least something on the order of B-movie.

I mean I wanted some pointless 1:30 flick that wouldn't have had me work a single neuron....much like BB2.

I instead got some 2+ hour crapfest which should've be MST3Ked to make it tolerable instead of in theatres.

Hell...I didn't even laugh at the bad, stupid corny moments which told me as bad as some films this summer were...nothing for me compared to how bad TR2 was.

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-07-29 02:11pm

hA ... you said tomb raider 2 xD ...

SA should do reviews on newer movies ... >_>

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-07-29 11:42pm

Why see any of these movies when you can see T3 again, or you could watch Caddyshack.

. Good memories...

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-07-29 11:45pm

I enjoyed Bad Boys II immensely, but I feel really bad about it.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-07-30 12:29am

I don't like Michael Bay, but Jerry Bruckheimer's all right. Sure, most of his movies are fucking horrible, but that man is a GENIUS! In the '80s, he successfully marketed gay culture to an unwitting America, and they lapped it up! Then, he proceeded to make hit after fucking hit, and he's richer than all get-out as a result. Sure, his movies are retarded, but that's not his fault. It's the fault of all the retarded Americans who love them. He's just making a buck offa all those idiots, and that I can respect.

But the blame for the atrocities must lie somewhere, and that's where Michael Bay and Joel Schumacher come in. They are devils and I hate them.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-07-30 03:25am

Go see Pirates of the Carribean. It's actually quite entertaining.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-07-30 10:04pm

Hey, they did a pretty damn good job on Kangaroo Jack.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-30 10:11pm

I haven't seen BB2, so I can't comment. But BB1 was incredibly stupid, and its only saving grace was Tea Leoni running around in a micro-skirt and stiletto heels throughout the entire movie.

"Pearl Harbour", however, makes BB1 look like high art. It was a crime against humanity.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-30 10:37pm

Pearl Harbor is the worst movie I've ever seen or expect to see. Bad Boys two looks like it would at least keep me entertained for a couple hours.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-07-30 10:39pm

Bad Boys 2 entertained this simple mind.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-07-31 12:56am

Bruckheimer also produced Blackhawk Down.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-07-31 01:01am

In response to the original thread, Gone in 60 Seconds was his worst film(of his films I've seen, they all look pretty stupid)

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2003-07-31 02:58am

You all know, Jerry Bruckheimer produced the Beverly Hills Cop movies.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-07-31 03:04am

Dennis Toy wrote:You all know, Jerry Bruckheimer produced the Beverly Hills Cop movies.

The Beverly Hills Cop movies were good because of Eddy Murphy (back when he was still good), not because of Bruckheimer. And Black Hawk Down was good because of Ridley Scott, not because of Bruckheimer. Bruckheimer knows how to procure the resources that a director needs in order to get his project off the ground. However, we have seen quite clearly that he has no idea how to distinguish a good project from a bad one. If he produces a good movie, it's just dumb luck that he happened to choose a project that wasn't stupid.

Couple him with Bay, however, and you get guaranteed stupidity.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-07-31 07:58am

Darth Wong wrote:
Dennis Toy wrote:You all know, Jerry Bruckheimer produced the Beverly Hills Cop movies.
The Beverly Hills Cop movies were good because of Eddy Murphy (back when he was still good), not because of Bruckheimer. And Black Hawk Down was good because of Ridley Scott, not because of Bruckheimer. Bruckheimer knows how to procure the resources that a director needs in order to get his project off the ground. However, we have seen quite clearly that he has no idea how to distinguish a good project from a bad one. If he produces a good movie, it's just dumb luck that he happened to choose a project that wasn't stupid.

Couple him with Bay, however, and you get guaranteed stupidity.

Actually, his problem is that he chooses stupid projects, not that he chooses bad ones. All of his stupid movies make shitloads of money, so he actually is quite brilliant at choosing projects. Like I said, he knows what the idiot droves want. It's really rather sickening.

EDIT: For example, Bruckheimer produced Days of Thunder, which happens to be one of the worst movies of all time. But it grossed almost 166 million dollars worldwide, plus another 40 million in rentals.
And the worst of his big movies is easily Kangaroo Jack, which is just about the only one he hasn't made big money on.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-07-31 08:59am

Here is the complete list work he has done... There is a lot of freaking money in this list....

National Treasure (2004) (pre-production) (producer)
King Arthur (2004) (filming) (producer)

"Cold Case" (2003) TV Series (executive producer)
"Fearless" (2003) TV Series (co-producer) (executive producer)
Skin (2003) (TV) (executive producer)
Bad Boys II (2003) (producer)
Veronica Guerin (2003) (producer)
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) (producer)
"Amazing Race 4, The" (2003) TV Series (executive producer)
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (2003) (VG) (executive producer)
"Profiles from the Front Line" (2003) TV Series (executive producer)
Kangaroo Jack (2003) (producer)
"Amazing Race 3, The" (2002) TV Series (executive producer)
"Without a Trace" (2002) TV Series (executive producer)
"C.S.I.: Miami" (2002) TV Series (executive producer)
Bad Company (2002) (producer)
... aka Ceská spojka (2002) (Czech Republic)
"Amazing Race 2, The" (2002) TV Series (executive producer)
Black Hawk Down (2001) (producer)
"Amazing Race, The" (2001) TV Series (executive producer)
Pearl Harbor (2001) (producer)
... aka Pearl Harbour (2001) (UK: promotional title)
"C.S.I.: Crime Scene Investigation" (2000) TV Series (executive producer)
... aka "C.S.I." (2000) (USA: short title)
Remember the Titans (2000) (producer)
Coyote Ugly (2000) (producer)
Gone in Sixty Seconds (2000) (producer)

Swing Vote (1999) (TV) (executive producer)
... aka Ninth Justice, The (1999) (TV) (Australia: video title)
Max Q (1998) (TV) (executive producer)
... aka Max Q: Emergency Landing (1998) (TV) (USA)
Enemy of the State (1998) (producer)
Armageddon (1998) (producer)
"Soldier of Fortune, Inc." (1997) TV Series (executive producer)
... aka "S.O.F. Special Ops Force" (1997) (USA: second season title)
... aka "S.O.F., Inc." (1997)
... aka "SOF, Inc." (1997)
Con Air (1997) (producer)
Rock, The (1996) (producer)
Dangerous Minds (1995) (producer)
Crimson Tide (1995) (producer)
Bad Boys (1995) (producer)
Ref, The (1994) (executive producer)
... aka Hostile Hostages (1994)
Days of Thunder (1990) (producer)

Beverly Hills Cop II (1987) (producer)
Top Gun (1986) (producer)
Thief of Hearts (1984) (producer)
Beverly Hills Cop (1984) (producer)
Flashdance (1983) (producer)
Young Doctors in Love (1982) (producer)
Cat People (1982) (executive producer)
Thief (1981) (producer)
... aka Violent Streets (1981)
Defiance (1980) (producer)
American Gigolo (1980) (producer)

March or Die (1977) (producer)
Farewell, My Lovely (1975) (producer)
Culpepper Cattle Company, The (1972) (associate producer)
... aka Dust, Sweat and Gunpowder (1972) (Australia)

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-07-31 10:44am

he's responsable for Armageddon as well. Now THAT was a sci fi flick that had complete and total comprehension of engineering, physics and astronomy.

Not only that, the only charector in that entire move that was even mildy interesting was the Russian Cosmonaut, and even then he was portryed as the stereotypical hard drinking Russian badass.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-07-31 05:02pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
this is why they get made:

box office mojo wrote: Total as of Jul. 27, 2003: $88,503,074
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=badboys2.htm

No, this is why they get made:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.05/hollywood.html

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-07-31 05:05pm

Face it. The guy makes movies that people go to see and they make tons of money...

It is not high art.. its popcorn movies at their best...

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