ASVS Veterans' Association.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 08:59am

This is now the thread for discussion about the formation of a private group consisting of ASVS veterans, namely, those people who were posters at ASVS back before SD.net existed was first founded, with at least... Oh, lessay, fifty posts to their name before that date. Anyone who has ended up migrated over to SD.net and qualifies in that category can be considered an ASVS Veteran and can join.

Our mission statement would be that we would work towards preserving the traditions of ASVS and keeping our history and the rigours of our debating style alive, since ASVS itself is largely dead and overrun with spammers these days, and most of the veterans are over here. I do not propose to run the organization, but rather, if we get a private board, we ought hold an election for someone who should be the moderator of it, just like in the days when we elected our public officials back on ASVS.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-28 10:24am

I really don't think we need an actual usergroup.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 10:36am

phongn wrote:I really don't think we need an actual usergroup.

Well, we might as well have one, since we all share common interests and a common purpose, and we might as well have somewhere just to reminisce, and anything else we decide to do. (Our Legion Post!)

Though, we can just use "ASVS Vets Assc" as a sig tag unless anyone wants to think up of something better, and certainly we should be open for suggestions one thinks. Ranks can be assigned by popular acclaim, and will all be trailed by "Ret."

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-28 10:54am

The tag might work rather than opening a forum, which I suspect would be rather low in traffic.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 11:00am

phongn wrote:The tag might work rather than opening a forum, which I suspect would be rather low in traffic.

I'm not so sure. There are a fair number of us here, and we are a rather productive group; it would pretty much be a grab bag of the usual suspects having our own place again. Considering that some people do post to ASVS occasionally, I think that would be useful, and, of course, there wouldn't be the hordes of spam there are over there now.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-07-28 11:01am

I just popped over, WTF is with all the crossposting fools? Spam I can understand, more or less.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-07-28 12:12pm

phongn wrote:I just popped over, WTF is with all the crossposting fools? Spam I can understand, more or less.

I blame RayCav. Just, you know, on general principles.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-28 12:49pm

I'm not seeing a point to a forum.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-28 01:40pm

I also agree with Darth Phong, we don't need a user group persay, and this forum has been quite sucessfull at brining them back from the great beyond. (So when's Talen Karrde going to show up here?)

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-07-28 02:20pm

SirNitram wrote:
phongn wrote:I just popped over, WTF is with all the crossposting fools? Spam I can understand, more or less.
I blame RayCav. Just, you know, on general principles.

It is RayCav's fault to some degree. When he replies, he replies to ALL the newsgroups.

Anyway, I think a sig tag would be good enough for now.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-07-28 02:25pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:This is now the thread for discussion about the formation of a private group consisting of ASVS veterans, namely, those people who were posters at ASVS back before SD.net existed was first founded, with at least... Oh, lessay, fifty posts to their name before that date. Anyone who has ended up migrated over to SD.net and qualifies in that category can be considered an ASVS Veteran and can join.

Hrm sounds interesting count me in whee

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-07-28 02:30pm

I just set up a killfile blocking any post addressed to more than 1 group. That works well. However, ASVS is overrun with spammers these days, and there's not much else going on there. I guess it was bound to happen. All good things must come to an end I suppose.

I could design some sort of badge in my spare time. Something along the lines of "Great Old One" or whatever.

Gambler · Post by **Gambler** » 2003-07-28 04:18pm

Durandal wrote:I just set up a killfile blocking any post addressed to more than 1 group. That works well. However, ASVS is overrun with spammers these days, and there's not much else going on there. I guess it was bound to happen. All good things must come to an end I suppose.

I could design some sort of badge in my spare time. Something along the lines of "Great Old One" or whatever.

I would suggest you put something like "member of the Great Old Ones of ASVS" in your sig, it sounds great.

Also I know my opinion isn't important and of little value on such a matter and decision making, here is it anyway.
I don't think yet another private usergroup is what sd.net needs. Every time a new private usergroup is created it is in detriment of the rest of the members, guests and lurkers of sd.net, because interesting topics and discussions are being transferred to those private forums. Also I know some private forums have a legitimate and important reason to exist and are needed by their members, others seem only to "steal" interesting debates and discussions from the general public. And there is of course the third type that seem to be little more than spammfest forums (at least they keep the spamm away from the OT-forum and the Spamminator has hopefully less work to do because of them) or private tee clubs, at least thats the impression I get from their premises. So I know I have nothing to say in the matter and the final decision is in the hands of the owner of the board, but I beg you Mr Wong ( or Mike if you don't mind me addressing you simply by your name

) please stop the private forum multiplication madness!
Sorry to all of you if I ruined your thread with my rant or if it is inappropriate for this thread

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-07-29 05:25am

Sig tag is all that is nessary and only ASVS types may wear it...mind you, keeping alive our traditions...well ..how about this tradition?

Eclipse Thread

Does the board need repeats of this type of thing? To quote Phil Skyhan

"Manufacturer: ASVS Dynamic Research
Size: 4k
Yield: 2,139 cascading Flamewar posts over a three week period
Other long-term effects: Polarization and alienation of NG denizens (duration unknown)"

Of cource this is a primitive weapon by todays standard, but with the event of SD.Net and the larger user base, can the board suffer the impact of our modern capabilities without mass thread closure and the inevitable pressures of the UM {United Moderators} to ceace hostilities, some of whom fought on ASVS?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-07-29 09:13am

Gambler wrote:I would suggest you put something like "member of the Great Old Ones of ASVS" in your sig, it sounds great.

Also I know my opinion isn't important and of little value on such a matter and decision making, here is it anyway.

While you are a n00b, your opinion becomes important to me when it happens to mirror my own.

I don't think yet another private usergroup is what sd.net needs. Every time a new private usergroup is created it is in detriment of the rest of the members, guests and lurkers of sd.net, because interesting topics and discussions are being transferred to those private forums. Also I know some private forums have a legitimate and important reason to exist and are needed by their members, others seem only to "steal" interesting debates and discussions from the general public. And there is of course the third type that seem to be little more than spammfest forums (at least they keep the spamm away from the OT-forum and the Spamminator has hopefully less work to do because of them) or private tee clubs, at least thats the impression I get from their premises. So I know I have nothing to say in the matter and the final decision is in the hands of the owner of the board, but I beg you Mr Wong ( or Mike if you don't mind me addressing you simply by your name ) please stop the private forum multiplication madness!
Sorry to all of you if I ruined your thread with my rant or if it is inappropriate for this thread

There you have it. I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-07-29 12:52pm

Stuart Mackey wrote:Sig tag is all that is nessary and only ASVS types may wear it...mind you, keeping alive our traditions...well ..how about this tradition?

Eclipse Thread

Does the board need repeats of this type of thing? To quote Phil Skyhan

"Manufacturer: ASVS Dynamic Research
Size: 4k
Yield: 2,139 cascading Flamewar posts over a three week period
Other long-term effects: Polarization and alienation of NG denizens (duration unknown)"

Of cource this is a primitive weapon by todays standard, but with the event of SD.Net and the larger user base, can the board suffer the impact of our modern capabilities without mass thread closure and the inevitable pressures of the UM {United Moderators} to ceace hostilities, some of whom fought on ASVS?

The ET was deployed unsuccessfully in the boards early days. Black Mage labs created and test-deployed a Neutronium Thread with a new, improved yield, capable of reacting even without Andersonium.

LT.Hit-Man · Post by **LT.Hit-Man** » 2003-07-29 12:59pm

I'm in for it

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-07-29 01:08pm

Stupid idea. There's no need for more forums. In fact, there are a few of them that should go. There's also no specific theme for the forum. What kind of threads would exist there? It would be either the duplication of the threads in the general forums or talks about the semidead ASVS (in that case, talk about it there). The members would end up talking about the weather, and bandwidth is not unlimited or free.

Also, it's by definition an elitist group condemned to oblivion, since you would never allow new members. And, without new blood, usergroups cannot live.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2003-07-29 06:06pm

There's no need for a separate forum for us ASVS old timers. We have ASVS and SD.net, what else do we need?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-30 05:23am

Colonel Olrik wrote:Stupid idea. There's no need for more forums. In fact, there are a few of them that should go. There's also no specific theme for the forum. What kind of threads would exist there? It would be either the duplication of the threads in the general forums or talks about the semidead ASVS (in that case, talk about it there). The members would end up talking about the weather, and bandwidth is not unlimited or free.

Also, it's by definition an elitist group condemned to oblivion, since you would never allow new members. And, without new blood, usergroups cannot live.

Well, alright. I'll concede the usergroup idea.

Everyone else: How does my sig title look? I chose Lt. Commander, as it was my Imperial Starfighter Corps rank used on ASVS. If we have one that was commonly used there, I say, use it. If not, submit one for approbation.

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » 2003-07-30 02:10pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Well, alright. I'll concede the usergroup idea.

Everyone else: How does my sig title look? I chose Lt. Commander, as it was my Imperial Starfighter Corps rank used on ASVS. If we have one that was commonly used there, I say, use it. If not, submit one for approbation.

Can I take Star Marshall?
You know I think this might be my first post on SD.net (if not first it's close)
EDIT: OK it's number four

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-07-30 04:09pm

Kyle wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Well, alright. I'll concede the usergroup idea.

Everyone else: How does my sig title look? I chose Lt. Commander, as it was my Imperial Starfighter Corps rank used on ASVS. If we have one that was commonly used there, I say, use it. If not, submit one for approbation.
Can I take Star Marshall?
You know I think this might be my first post on SD.net (if not first it's close)
EDIT: OK it's number four

Kyle! Nice to see you round. By all means!

I suppose I'll use my current position of ASVS Whip...

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » 2003-07-30 04:21pm

Dalton wrote: Kyle! Nice to see you round. By all means!

I suppose I'll use my current position of ASVS Whip...

Yeah ASVS seems to be pretty dead right now. I thought about getting back into STGODs, but the current crop of STGODers on ASVS are pretty poor. Anyway it looks like this is now the place to be. I've been lurking here on and off but I've just been sitting around bored today so I decided to do some posting.

Plus I saw this great "ASVS reunion thread" and it seemed to be a sign telling me to post something.

I've been periodically thinking about restarting my fic "The Long War," but I've been rather discouraged since my old comp crashed and I lost Chapters seven through fifteen (each at 15KB) and haven't been able to find my backups since I moved.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-07-30 04:38pm

Kyle wrote:Yeah ASVS seems to be pretty dead right now. I thought about getting back into STGODs, but the current crop of STGODers on ASVS are pretty poor. Anyway it looks like this is now the place to be. I've been lurking here on and off but I've just been sitting around bored today so I decided to do some posting.

Plus I saw this great "ASVS reunion thread" and it seemed to be a sign telling me to post something.

I've been periodically thinking about restarting my fic "The Long War," but I've been rather discouraged since my old comp crashed and I lost Chapters seven through fifteen (each at 15KB) and haven't been able to find my backups since I moved.

Oh, I rather hope you can find them. The next Archive update is ALL Stravo.

Not that we don't like Stravo. It's just that variety is the spice of life

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » 2003-07-30 04:59pm

Dalton wrote:
Kyle wrote:I've been periodically thinking about restarting my fic "The Long War," but I've been rather discouraged since my old comp crashed and I lost Chapters seven through fifteen (each at 15KB) and haven't been able to find my backups since I moved.

Dalton wrote: Oh, I rather hope you can find them. The next Archive update is ALL Stravo.
It doesn't look good, I can't seem to find it on any of my floppy's or Zip disks, and I can't even get it from my old HD because it was completely fucked. It looks like I've got about 135K of text to try and rewrite from ememory, without even the old outline I'd written up before I got started, and without all of my notes on different things Iw anted to happen and such

Dalton wrote: Not that we don't like Stravo. It's just that variety is the spice of life

I'll see If I can't get a chapter written before the next weekend.

BTW want to know how a day can go from boring to good in one instant? Pick up the phone and have a girl saying "We're bored so my friend and I want to come over and drink margeritas, what kind of margerita do you like? We'll pick it up then head over"

It really improves your outlook on the day.

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