2012 Yet Again...

Gambler · Post by **Gambler** » 2003-07-27 05:38pm

I think this page is a fucking fake, I mean come on, look at those colours, the banners and the whole site structure, it has to be fake.

I wonder why none of you has thought of that possibility

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-07-29 02:08am

Gambler wrote:I think this page is a fucking fake, I mean come on, look at those colours, the banners and the whole site structure, it has to be fake.
I wonder why none of you has thought of that possibility

There just might be people deranged enough to believe nonsense like that. After all, there are JWs and the old "Planet X" people who must have unsucessfully predicted the world ending by a planetary alignment or rouge planet collision several times before.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-07-29 02:30am

OK, hate to break it to you but I've personally met this complete and utter FUCKING LOON in person and have been posting the more amusing stuff from his site for more than a year.

He actually lives in Hobart, and as such is creating such a moron imbalance that the city risks sinking beneath sea level.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-07-29 05:28am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
some new-age weirdo wrote: Are you feeling the Quickening?
Somebody has been watching too much "Highlander"...

The frontpage for this site says :

This site and our catalogue cover: the Mayan calendar and prophecies, time acceleration, the frequency rise on Earth to a 12 hour day, the Quickening, Philadelphia and Montauk experiments in time, free energy, DNA upgrades, UFOs, extraterrestrials, the shift to 4th and 5th dimension, the Ascension, the synchronisation of earth with the universe.

Could not help laughing. Just count the number of pseudo-scientific junk these guys believe.

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-07-29 09:27pm

Chictsen(sp) Itza will rise again!

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-29 09:36pm

Darth Gojira wrote:Chictsen(sp) Itza will rise again!

Chichen.

(edit- I spelled it wrong the first time, not having a good day....)

What I find sad is that modern Maya are some of the biggest adherents to these 2012 "prophecies". Sad because they rely on foreigners to interpret their own writings.
The Cruzob Maya, who are descendants of the Maya revolutionaries who won Yucatan back from the Mexicans in 1848, just in time to either go home and plant their fields or starve, are some of the most vocal. They plan on a major war coming up shortly, one that has post apocalyptic overtones, thereby giving them a technologically level playing ground.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-07-30 12:26am

Frank Hipper wrote: What I find sad is that modern Maya are some of the biggest adherents to these 2012 "prophecies". Sad because they rely on foreigners to interpret their own writings.
The Cruzob Maya, who are descendants of the Maya revolutionaries who won Yucatan back from the Mexicans in 1848, just in time to either go home and plant their fields or starve, are some of the most vocal. They plan on a major war coming up shortly, one that has post apocalyptic overtones, thereby giving them a technologically level playing ground.

Interesting. Could you tell me more about the Cruzob Maya and their prophecy of doom ?

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-30 01:19am

evilcat4000 wrote:Interesting. Could you tell me more about the Cruzob Maya and their prophecy of doom ?

Well, first of all, I got the year wrong.
In 1850, a cross carved in a tree trunk became the oracle of the Maya of Quintana Roo, the Mexican state that takes up a sizeable portion of the Yucatan peninsula. At first this cross, and later examples, would speak through an interpreter, and later communicate through written messages. This began the cult of of the Talking Cross, which similar to the Ghost Dance of the plains indians of the 1890's and the last gasp of North American Indian resistance, was to prove the inspiration for the Caste War which raged in the Yucatan in the 1850's, and later.

The modern Cruzob take their name from this cult, the Chan Santa Cruz, or "Little Holy Cross". According to the authors of the book I quoted earlier in this thread, the Cruzob of today are obsessed with warfare, seeing the violence of the outside world in Spanish language broadcasts that they can't understand, being speakers of Yucatec Maya, mostly.

But they are watching and waiting for the great war to come shortly, when all societies will fight one another. It will be so bad, they believe, that all the machines will be destroyed, and all the armies will be reduced to fighting with machetes and sticks. That is a battle they know they will win, they believe, because they alone have kept the faith and listened to the talking crosses. After this victory, they say, a Maya king will rule once more.

In the original Caste War, not only did the Maya re-take virtually all of Yucatan, and apply for statehood in the United States, but the Mexican army didn't completely suppress the violence in Quintana Roo until 1901, and they never did stamp out thespirit of resistance.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-07-30 01:50am

Thank you Frank Hipper. I actualy find the Cruzob Maya to be bit more credible than other pseudo-scientific junk. There could be after all a global thermonuclear exchange that would reduce us if not kill us all outright to primitive technology.

OK, hate to break it to you but I've personally met this complete and utter FUCKING LOON in person and have been posting the more amusing stuff from his site for more than a year.

He actually lives in Hobart, and as such is creating such a moron imbalance that the city risks sinking beneath sea level.

How is he like in person ? Does he believe all this non sense he is spreading ?

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-07-30 10:48am

evilcat4000 wrote:
OK, hate to break it to you but I've personally met this complete and utter FUCKING LOON in person and have been posting the more amusing stuff from his site for more than a year.

He actually lives in Hobart, and as such is creating such a moron imbalance that the city risks sinking beneath sea level.
How is he like in person ? Does he believe all this non sense he is spreading ?

He genuinely believes in all this shit, like the reptilian dynasty from Mars attempting to subvert humanity to stop the events of the Mayan calendar from taking place.

Speaking of which, if anyone wants to donate to the "fuck with this guy's head" appeal, I am seeking 3-4 conservative black suits and 3-4 sets of reptile eye contact lenses.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-07-30 04:49pm

evilcat4000 wrote:Thank you Frank Hipper. I actualy find the Cruzob Maya to be bit more credible than other pseudo-scientific junk. There could be after all a global thermonuclear exchange that would reduce us if not kill us all outright to primitive technology.

Also in their favor, it could be said that they're responding to centuries of repression, and not some "New-Age" nut cultist applying Eastern philosophies and the WORST kinds of pseudoscience to something they don't understand in the first place.

I read an author once who claimed the Maya are the toughest Native Americans there are. He's got a point.
For more than 3000 years, they have lived practically the same despite the calamities of the Classic period collapse, the Spanish conquest, and centuries of foreign rule and oppression. Yet, modern Maya houses are the same as they were at the earliest stages of developement, the languages survive to a large extant, and even their religious practices have survived in a modified form.

Why assholes have to distort poorly understood calendrical systems to suit their personal agendas, instead of admiring ACTUAL accomplishments makes me want to spray vomit.

2012 doomsday assholes can suck my purple, swollen, cock.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-31 02:38am

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Some new-age weirdo wrote: Are you feeling the Quickening?
Somebody has been watching too much "Highlander"...
Or Art Bell!!!

Then Art Bell's been watching too much "Highlander"....