Official M:TG Thread

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-07-30 02:27pm

Slayen wrote:
2 reasons:

1 - Until now i had not heard of it

2 - now that i have, its a bit pricer than i'm willing to spend on one card.

You've never heard of crusade? xD

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2003-07-30 02:45pm

Slayen wrote:...... how exactly does that cause the Core set to suck a bit? For enchantment heavy decks, it can be a life saver. Hell, useing the right tricks, can be used to bring in enchantments cheaper than normal.

It's just too inefficient. If you NEED enchantments for your deck to work, say, as part of a combo (like Aluren), then you should have chosen some kind of efficient 'protection' for your permanent. Black and red, which are more enchantment-light, don't have any such protection, but can be played with other colors. At this point, we realize that Auramancer, Monk Idealist, Rofellos' Gift, Revive, and Elven Cache are all superior to the Skull in terms of functionality and cost. Granted, none of these are repeatable, but how many times will your opponent be able to kill an enchantment? On average, a max of four times. Is it worth having a permanent that can revive an enchantment more than four times, at a cost MUCH higher than, say, Rofellos' Gift? No.

Most of my 'enchantment necessary' decks are green or white or black, and run alongside green or white as secondary colors if necessary. In my opinion, a Monk Idealist or Auramancer is the best of the bunch (unless you're packing one of the many 'return to play' creatures and sorceries), because it not only gives you your thing back for much less cost as the Skull, but it gives you a 2/2 body to attack and block with. Thus, functionally, the creature is far better for the cost and effect you're getting.

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2003-07-30 03:30pm

Mind Twist actually reads Target player discards x cards at random.
Its called errata. Otherwise my disenchants make you discard 1 artifact from play.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-07-30 03:59pm

Slayen wrote:
Exonerate wrote:Slayen, how you can play a white weenie deck without Crusade is beyond me...
1 - Until now i had not heard of it

OMG N00B!

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2003-07-30 05:33pm

Noobs, have any of you heard of Coal Golem, Life chisel, In the Eye of Chaos, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, or Rune of Protection:Land. Until you have seen all these cards in original english black boardered goodness, no more noob calling for you.

ZShade · Post by **ZShade** » 2003-07-30 06:15pm

And I still have a Beta Time Walk from my playing days, many years ago, before such a thing as T1 and T2 existed, when Granite Gargoyles and Demonic Tutors still roamed the Earth, but before Fallen Empires glutted the market (Fairly lame set, too.)

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-07-30 06:36pm

ZShade wrote:And I still have a Beta Time Walk from my playing days, many years ago, before such a thing as T1 and T2 existed, when Granite Gargoyles and Demonic Tutors still roamed the Earth, but before Fallen Empires glutted the market (Fairly lame set, too.)

Everyone always says something retarded like this ...

information like this is meaningless because the people reading it either

a. dont care

or

b. wont belive you

besides, saying something like this just makes it look like you're trying to impress everyone.

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-07-30 06:39pm

Dark Hellion wrote:Mind Twist actually reads Target player discards x cards at random.
Its called errata. Otherwise my disenchants make you discard 1 artifact from play.

http://members.tripod.com/~archangle1998/3mindtwist.jpg

because tripod dont like hyperlinking to much

ZShade · Post by **ZShade** » 2003-07-30 06:45pm

Mind Twist errata from 2001.

And to be honest, I don't care too much either. But with people yelling 'n00b!', I just wanted to point out I was playing many moons ago. I'm much more interested in L5R nowadays though.

On an unrelated note, I do think it's neat that Rukh Eggs were brought back as a promo for 8th.

Slayen · Post by **Slayen** » 2003-07-30 06:54pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote: OMG N00B!

aphexmonster wrote:
You've never heard of crusade? xD

I only started playing just before Legions came out, of course I'm a bloody newbie to the game.

David · Post by **David** » 2003-08-01 01:30am

If you like white enchantment decks Mirari's Wake and Divine Sacrement should be right up your alley.

Also, I picked up a pack and a pre-con goblin deck from 8th the other day. It's nice that some of the old cards are now legal again, but soem of the art clashes bad. I like the new pic for the Elvish Champion though, or is it an old design?

Baron Mordo · Post by **Baron Mordo** » 2003-08-01 10:00am

Dark Hellion wrote:Noobs, have any of you heard of Coal Golem,

The Dark. Sack it for 3 red mana.

Dark Hellion wrote:Life chisel,

Legends. Sack a creature to gain its toughness in life.

Dark Hellion wrote:In the Eye of Chaos,

Legends. Kill all instants/interrupts unless the caster pays 'em again.

Dark Hellion wrote:The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, or

Legends. Creatures get upkeep of 1. Kill zem if zey don't pay.

Dark Hellion wrote:Rune of Protection:Land.

Whatever the hell that is.

Dark Hellion wrote: Until you have seen all these cards in original english black boardered goodness, no more noob calling for you.

I've been playing since Revised. I can call n00bness.

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2003-08-01 01:10pm

Yup, we got 3 elders among a throng of youngin'.
Our triumverant will hold power here. MUWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-08-01 01:27pm

Baron Mordo wrote:
Dark Hellion wrote:Rune of Protection:Land.
Whatever the hell that is.

Urza's Saga. Enchantment, pay W, prevent next damage that would be dealt to you this turn by a land.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-08-01 03:21pm

Dark Hellion wrote:Yup, we got 3 elders among a throng of youngin'.
Our triumverant will hold power here. MUWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Right...*smacks his elder with a few Lightning Bolts* I may be a youngin', but I've got plenty of the old goodies.

Anyone remember Lim-Dul's Paladin?

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-08-01 04:28pm

Baron Mordo wrote: I've been playing since Revised. I can call n00bness.

Yeah! Us old-timers have to stick together!

Hell, I've got a nearly complete set of Revised. Just missing some rares that were stolen (They were in decks)

Baron Mordo · Post by **Baron Mordo** » 2003-08-02 01:59am

I recall an "advertisment" in one of my old Inquest magazines of a feature film based on Magic: The Gathering. It was apparently based on the Tempest Cycle, and it was going to have:

Brad Pitt as Gerrard
Sarah Michelle Gellar as Hannah
Jim Carrey as Squee
Arnold Schwarzenegger as Karn
Dolph Lundgren as Crovax(?)
Sean Connery as Urza
Tim Curry as the Juzam Djinn
with music by N'Sync(!) and Devo(!!)

Given that:
This film would be a travesty on many levels, ruining the careers of many, wasting millions of dollars, and scorching the minds of gamers everywhere.

Was this a joke?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-08-02 02:44am

It was all a joke, of course, but it was a pretty damn cool poster (got it hanging on my wall).

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-08-03 04:32pm

Captain_Cyran wrote:
Dark Hellion wrote:Yup, we got 3 elders among a throng of youngin'.
Our triumverant will hold power here. MUWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Right...*smacks his elder with a few Lightning Bolts* I may be a youngin', but I've got plenty of the old goodies.

Anyone remember Lim-Dul's Paladin?

*prevents the lightning bolt damage with forcefield*

*drops a chaos orb on you* ....

not enough old goodies ...

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-08-04 05:19pm

OMH lagmonster is zordon

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2003-08-05 08:32am

aphexmonster wrote:OMH lagmonster is zordon

As far as you're concerned, I'm the MCP, and that means I own you. End of line.

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-08-05 04:37pm

Lagmonster wrote:
aphexmonster wrote:OMH lagmonster is zordon

As far as you're concerned, I'm the MCP, and that means I own you. End of line.

... kay ... sure

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-08-05 09:08pm

Lagmonster wrote:
aphexmonster wrote:OMH lagmonster is zordon

As far as you're concerned, I'm the MCP, and that means I own you. End of line.

*toys with her discus* Oh... really? *Flings!*

Anyway...

We really need to see about getting together (those of us still owning decks) and playing. After all, we can STGOD this all day, but the proof is in the decks, gentlemen.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-08-05 09:19pm

LadyTevar wrote:
Lagmonster wrote:
aphexmonster wrote:OMH lagmonster is zordon

As far as you're concerned, I'm the MCP, and that means I own you. End of line.
*toys with her discus* Oh... really? *Flings!*

Anyway...

We really need to see about getting together (those of us still owning decks) and playing. After all, we can STGOD this all day, but the proof is in the decks, gentlemen.

I'm up, my rebel deck is ready are willing to piss off it's opponents

David · Post by **David** » 2003-08-05 10:59pm

I picked up a Core Set Box today. I'm going to try playing online, but I heard that you actually have to pay for online cards. Is that insane or what?