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Alyrium Denryle wrote:But why would one do that... sure if you still play with toy guns... But why do little children really need uber realistic guns?
Why? Because you are a filmmaker on a shoestring budget who doesn't have the money for real guns, doesn't WANT real guns on the set, etc.

This is funny, because I just spent $40 bucks on an upcoming photoshoot, and I got an UZI, an AK-47, a Winchster rifle, and a sawed-off shotgun! I didn't get the M-16, because it really was "kid-sized' and would have been useless.

There's these little "ground-flower" fireworks about the size of a dime that flsh brilliant red and give off smoke, which looks just like automatic gunfire when taped onto a plastic UZI! I did this for a "Rambo vs. Caine" shoot a century or so ago, and it looked fantastic. (I'l dig out the video and post a pic when I get home).

The only drawback is that I have to put a socket from a socket wrench or something on the barrel of these things so they won't melt!

That being said, we won't be using any of these things in public view. My friend Ray dressed up as Terminator in 1985 and walked down Hollywood Boulevard with a plastic UZI, scaring the shit out of almost everyone. In HOLLYWOOD, mind you. Nowadays, there's no fucking way we'd take a chance like that.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Many toy guns are now complete covered in bright colors while still retaining a realistic shape and textures, its pretty stupid. Though black spray paint fixes em right up.
But why would one do that... sure if you still play with toy guns... But why do little children really need uber realistic guns?
Beacause you get kids who are like me when I was a kid, who demand realistic toy guns not girly shit. How can one play war with a unrelistic gun?
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Stuart Mackey wrote:Beacause you get kids who are like me when I was a kid, who demand realistic toy guns not girly shit. How can one play war with a unrelistic gun?
Pretend you're in a GI JOE episode?
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RogueIce wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:Beacause you get kids who are like me when I was a kid, who demand realistic toy guns not girly shit. How can one play war with a unrelistic gun?
Pretend you're in a GI JOE episode?
gahhh..When I was a kid we had tactical senario's one team has to take a geographic feture or kill of the other team. what we needed were those laser things that make anoise when you are 'hit' . Well we didnt have the laser things but we could have relistic guns, and demanded them {dad whiped them up with the bandsaw.}
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kojikun wrote:There should have been a clause in the constitution stating that no bill may contain legislation on more then one category.
A prohibition like that would be virtually impossible to enforce. What are you going to do, have Supreme Court watch every piece of legislation that goes through committee looking for riders? Overturn an otherwise Constitutional law because it passed as a rider? It's virtually impossible to stop Congress from writing any kind of bill it pleases.

A line-item veto, on the other hand, would end the rider problem, but the cure is worse than the disease. The President could effectively control the entire legislative process because he wouldn't have to compromise on anything. Riders ARE a way for a minority party to get laws passed that it likes, because unless one party controls Congress by a huge majority, minority party members' support will be needed to pass laws, especially ones that not everyone in the majority party likes. A line-item veto, even one limited to budgets, could allow the President to take a bill that was crafted carefully in both houses to keep both parties reasonably satisfied, and veto every concession to the minority while passing the majority's parts.
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I have an evil mind...

Now, I started looking at reality like this when I saw the Styr AUG. My god a rifle that looks like it belongs in a toy box or a Sci-Fi prop...
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MKSheppard wrote:Just found this while perusing gun laws;
The Federal Energy Management Improvement Act of 1988 (P. L. 100-615) requires that all toys or firearm look- alikes have a blazed orange plug in the barrel, denoting that it is a non-lethal imitation.
Can someone please tell me what Energy management has to do
with toys?

Riders tacked onto bills are the death of democracy as peopel can tack
pork or bills that wouldn't be passed otherwise onto successful bills...
I agree Shep. It is stupid to have a non-Energy related item in an energy bill. This is why we need Line-Item Vetos. So the President can get rid of pork from important legislation. Unfortunatefly the Supreme Court took that power away.
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EmperorSolo51 wrote:I agree Shep. It is stupid to have a non-Energy related item in an energy bill. This is why we need Line-Item Vetos. So the President can get rid of pork from important legislation. Unfortunatefly the Supreme Court took that power away.
They were right to do so. The line-item veto law was an unconstitutional delegation of Congress's power to the Executive. Nor should a Constitutional amendment be passed to create a line-item veto, for the reasons I gave above.
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