More shit from the Religion of Peace™

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-08-02 09:58am

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030801 ... -5077r.htm

Suicide bomber kills dozens in hospital

By Sergei Venyavsky
ASSOCIATED PRESS

ROSTOV-ON-DON, Russia — A suicide bomber rammed a truck packed with explosives through the gates of a Russian military hospital near Chechnya yesterday, destroying the building and killing at least 33 persons.

Seventy-six others were wounded in the attack, the latest in an upsurge of suicide bombings that have killed more than 100 people since May.

Russian authorities suspected Chechnya's Muslim rebels in the blast, which demolished the four-story red-brick hospital in the city of Mozdok in Russia's North Ossetia region.

At least 33 persons were killed, said Yevgeny Volodchinkov, an Emergency Situations Ministry official at the scene.

The region's emergency situations minister, Boris Dzgoyev, told the Associated Press that at least 76 were injured, including personnel at the hospital and soldiers taken there after being wounded in Chechnya, where Russia's second war against rebels in a decade is nearly four years old.

Russian Deputy Prosecutor-General Sergei Fridinsky said 35 were killed and 150 injured, according to the Interfax news agency.

The building, which had 115 persons inside, including medical workers and patients, collapsed like a house of cards, Mr. Dzgoyev said.

Maj. Gen. Nikolai Lityuk said the Russian- made Kamaz truck broke through the hospital gates, pulled up to a reception office building and exploded.

The blast left a crater 26 feet wide and 10 feet deep, according to Gen. Lityuk, deputy chief of the southern Russia branch of the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility, but Russian authorities said they suspected Chechen rebels.

Gen. Lityuk said it appeared to have been carried out by a lone attacker in the truck.

"Near the checkpoint of the hospital there were charred corpses," a medical assistant from Mozdok's central hospital identified as Galina said on state-run Rossiya television. "Tents that were put up near the main building were all gone. There was one wall left from the main building."

"The United States condemns this act of terrorism," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "No cause whatsoever, be it national, ethnic, religious, or political, can justify terrorism."

A woman who lives 2½ miles from the hospital said windows broke and plaster fell from walls in her neighborhood. "I saw a big column of smoke," said the woman, identified as Valentina, speaking on Ekho Moskvy radio.

Mozdok is the headquarters for Russian forces fighting in Chechnya and has been repeatedly targeted by attackers.

Emergency workers were picking through the rubble, and the Ministry of Emergency Situations was sending a plane with rescuers, sniffer dogs and medical equipment from Moscow, officials said.

A duty officer at the regional Emergency Situations Ministry in North Ossetia said 35 of the wounded were taken to Mozdok's central hospital and four others died on the way.

Alina Totykova, deputy head of the North Ossetian hospital in the regional capital, Vladikavkaz, said all available ambulances were sent to Mozdok.

There was a shortage of medicine, anesthetics and bandages and a severe shortage of blood, she said, adding that an appeal for people to give blood would be broadcast on television in the region.

President Vladimir Putin expressed condolences to relatives of the victims and urged the North Ossetian leadership to tell federal authorities in Moscow what was needed to aid the victims, the Kremlin said. Mr. Putin also ordered law enforcement officials to investigate.

Chechnya has been wracked by violence since Russian forces entered the mostly Muslim region in 1994 in a bid to crush separatist rebels.

Russian troops withdrew in 1996, leaving the separatists in charge, but returned in 1999 after Chechnya-based militants invaded a neighboring region. The Kremlin also blamed rebels for apartment- building bombings that killed 300 people in 1999.

Last month, Mr. Putin signed an order setting presidential elections in Chechnya for Oct. 5 — the latest step in his strategy of trying to bring a political resolution in the Caucasus republic even as fighting continues.

However, rebel attacks — which have increasingly involved suicide bombings targeting civilians — have undercut the Kremlin's effort to portray the situation in the war-shattered region as stabilizing.

In June, a female suicide attacker detonated a bomb near a bus carrying soldiers and civilians to work at a military airfield near Mozdok, killing at least 16 persons.

In May, in Chechnya, a suicide truck bombing killed 72 persons and a woman blew herself up at a religious ceremony, killing at least 18 persons.

A double suicide bombing at a rock concert in Moscow on July 5 killed the female attackers and 15 other persons.

In Chechnya yesterday, fighting raged for hours in the town of Argun, and 19 Russian servicemen and Chechen police were killed in the region in the past 24 hours, an official in the Moscow-backed administration said.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-08-02 10:36am

Will this slaughter ever fucking stop? Jeezus. This has become like the Intifada (sp?). Originally the Chechens could attempt stand up fights against the Federal forces, but they've been bled dry- so they take the recourse of attacking civilian targets and shooting up check points- most of which are attacks against Chechen 'collaborators' (most Chechens are pro-Russian, or more accurately, anti-religious fundie/pro-peace- couldn't say that about the Palestinians though) with the Federal authorities rather than Russians themselves.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-08-02 11:17am

It would be a religion of peace if everybody was Muslim.

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2003-08-02 11:22am

This gets disgusting especially when you visit boards where hoards of idiots are supporting those terrorists. Sad to admit this, but there seem to be quite some Germans who think this is totally fine...

otter · Post by **otter** » 2003-08-02 11:27am

Wicked Pilot wrote:It would be a religion of peace if everybody was Muslim.

Naw, they'd find some excuse to kill Muslims outside the holy lands as not being "pure" enough.

In the end you'd just have western Muslims -vs- eastern Muslims

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-08-02 11:31am

otter wrote:
Wicked Pilot wrote:It would be a religion of peace if everybody was Muslim.

Naw, they'd find some excuse to kill Muslims outside the holy lands as not being "pure" enough.

In the end you'd just have western Muslims -vs- eastern Muslims

And they can`t even get along with other muslims,Chiite and Sunii(sp)

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-08-02 11:58am

Shi'iite and Sunni, IIRC.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-08-02 12:21pm

What the hell? How many of these guys can there possibly be? The Russians have been killing them for as long as I can remember.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-08-02 12:29pm

otter wrote:Naw, they'd find some excuse to kill Muslims outside the holy lands as not being "pure" enough.

In the end you'd just have western Muslims -vs- eastern Muslims

But that's not true Islam.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-08-02 03:03pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:It would be a religion of peace if everybody was Muslim.

Or maybe they mean it like "We come with peace... but we do not come in peace." (Brotherhood of NOD, anyone?)

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-02 03:24pm

Vympel wrote:Will this slaughter ever fucking stop? Jeezus. This has become like the Intifada (sp?). Originally the Chechens could attempt stand up fights against the Federal forces, but they've been bled dry- so they take the recourse of attacking civilian targets and shooting up check points- most of which are attacks against Chechen 'collaborators' (most Chechens are pro-Russian, or more accurately, anti-religious fundie/pro-peace- couldn't say that about the Palestinians though) with the Federal authorities rather than Russians themselves.

Exactly my thoughts. Though I think it will end rather faster, this conflict has only been dragged on for so long only because of a stream of foreigners willing to fight for someone else's cause.

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-08-02 03:24pm

Gee-fucking-whiz. I thought in Islam, killing one person was as bad as exterminating humanity.

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2003-08-02 03:58pm

Setzer wrote:Gee-fucking-whiz. I thought in Islam, killing one person was as bad as exterminating humanity.

If a Jihad has been declared, that rule goes out the window when it comes to non-Muslims.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-08-02 04:08pm

Setzer wrote:Gee-fucking-whiz. I thought in Islam, killing one person was as bad as exterminating humanity.

If that person prays to a different invisible man from the ones Muslims pray to, that does not apply.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-08-02 06:32pm

Durandal wrote:
Setzer wrote:Gee-fucking-whiz. I thought in Islam, killing one person was as bad as exterminating humanity.

If that person prays to a different invisible man from the ones Muslims pray to, that does not apply.[/quote

They need to learn that God,Yaweh(sp) or Allah they`re all the same guy.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-08-02 07:37pm

Good to know those fucking dirty Chechens are attacking legit military targets instead of a fucking hospital.

otter · Post by **otter** » 2003-08-02 10:56pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
otter wrote:Naw, they'd find some excuse to kill Muslims outside the holy lands as not being "pure" enough.

In the end you'd just have western Muslims -vs- eastern Muslims
But that's not true Islam.

True Islam, like true Christianity, has been corrupted to the point of non-existence in the last couple of centuries IMO.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-08-02 11:25pm

Durandal wrote:
Setzer wrote:Gee-fucking-whiz. I thought in Islam, killing one person was as bad as exterminating humanity.
If that person prays to a different invisible man from the ones Muslims pray to, that does not apply.

Not if they're People of the Book, which includes Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians. At least, that's what an imam friend of mine told me. People of the Book are to be considered as equally protected as a Moslem. The radical extremists of Islam are like the fundamentalists of Christianity, though: they ignore the tenets of the religion for their own political or personal gain.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-03 01:30am

How did Zoroastrians get on that list, other than the population of Persia mainly being them during the time of their first conquests?

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-08-03 06:04pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:How did Zoroastrians get on that list, other than the population of Persia mainly being them during the time of their first conquests?

Zoroastrians are one of the few monotheists, and as such are given special status simply by not being pagans.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-03 06:07pm

Bob McDob wrote:
StarshipTitanic wrote:How did Zoroastrians get on that list, other than the population of Persia mainly being them during the time of their first conquests?
Zoroastrians are one of the few monotheists, and as such are given special status simply by not being pagans.

Ah, that makes sense.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-08-03 06:30pm

otter wrote:True Islam, like true Christianity, has been corrupted to the point of non-existence in the last couple of centuries IMO.

What? The Koran is the perfect and inerrant word of Allah. You shall suffer an eternity in Hell for what you just said infadel!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-03 06:43pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
What? The Koran is the perfect and inerrant word of Allah.

You forgot the "as we interpret it" bit

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-08-03 07:24pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:You forgot the "as we interpret it" bit

We true Muslims know how to read. It is you great Satan liberals who 'interpret' it.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-08-03 07:27pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:You forgot the "as we interpret it" bit
We true Muslims know how to read. It is you great Satan liberals who 'interpret' it.

Tell that to OBL and other idiots like him.