why popularity Karate to Taekwondo shift?

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-08-05 09:56am

Olrik, a few people beat me to the punch but some jujitsu styles are excellent for self defence and for pounding on some guy who has bumped into you at your favourite bar! I'm trying a hybrid art that is Brazillian jujitsu, kickboxing and clinching. The instructors are kungfu and sambo masters respectively.

You know, if you're looking to kick ass then why not try some Israeli Krav Maga or Russian Sambo. Both are very effective!

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-08-05 10:35am

Gandalf wrote:
aerius wrote:
kojikun wrote:What are the fundemental differences between various forms of martial arts like kung fu, karate, judo, tae kwan do, etc?
They're exactly the same but completely different. And you can't spell fundamental without fun. To learn you must study and do. Train hard grasshopper!
You forget...

Wax on, wax off.

Paint the fence. Paint the house.

That's a kata I've known for the last year and a half, BTW. It's called sanchin, and it's a traditional goju-ryu/shito-ryu kata. Virtually unknown, IIRC, in shorin-ryu and shotokan, though.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-08-05 10:43am

Iceberg wrote: That's a kata I've known for the last year and a half, BTW. It's called sanchin, and it's a traditional goju-ryu/shito-ryu kata. Virtually unknown, IIRC, in shorin-ryu and shotokan, though.

Goju-ryu, unknown?!? That's one of the more mainstream of the okinawan schools and that kata is done at my dojo for the karate students and there's is a mixed system of karate, taekwondo and jujitsu!

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-08-05 10:48am

Next of Kin wrote:
Iceberg wrote: That's a kata I've known for the last year and a half, BTW. It's called sanchin, and it's a traditional goju-ryu/shito-ryu kata. Virtually unknown, IIRC, in shorin-ryu and shotokan, though.
Goju-ryu, unknown?!? That's one of the more mainstream of the okinawan schools and that kata is done at my dojo for the karate students and there's is a mixed system of karate, taekwondo and jujitsu!

No, no, I'm saying that sanchin isn't common in shorin-ryu and shotokan because they're both hard styles (derived from shira-te), and sanchin is a "soft" kata (derived from naha-te).

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-08-05 10:06pm

Iceberg wrote: No, no, I'm saying that sanchin isn't common in shorin-ryu and shotokan because they're both hard styles (derived from shira-te), and sanchin is a "soft" kata (derived from naha-te).

Gotcha! Oooh, I didn't know that history behind Sanchin!

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-08-06 01:17am

Stuart Mackey wrote:
Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:
aerius wrote: Maybe it was just the dojos in my area, so I can't say all TKD is like this, just the 2 places I trained at.
AFAIK a reason is because of the popularizing of TKD and tournaments, special forces trained with TKD still practice grab/jam techniques.
Some SF types may. but most western ones use something quite different

We learned six grab techniques and a couple throws in TKD, just between yellow and orange belts. I will admit the throws may have been bastardized, since the professor (wasn't the master, and it was a college course) was an aikidoka also, and the throws were very similar to those of Aikikai (may have been a style difference or a whole different throw, not sure). Of course, I don't know my master's history, other than that he moved from Korea. Any TKD people know any background on Sun Tok Choe?