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Death Star gravity
These things just keep confusing me:
1. Where is the center of gravity if the decks are all linear and not spherical?
2. How can the DS enter hyperspace if it is large enough to create a grav well naturally?
3. How can each of the decks have the same level of gravity?
1. Where is the center of gravity if the decks are all linear and not spherical?
2. How can the DS enter hyperspace if it is large enough to create a grav well naturally?
3. How can each of the decks have the same level of gravity?
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You're thinking about it too much, dude.
1. gravity generators can alter the gravity vector, remember the Millenium Falcon had different vectors for each of his turrets.
2. so? if the grav well is in the hyerspace generator itself, the computers already have that distortion accounted for, it's called calibration.
3. gravity generators are a wonderful technology. Too bad they don't exist.
1. gravity generators can alter the gravity vector, remember the Millenium Falcon had different vectors for each of his turrets.
2. so? if the grav well is in the hyerspace generator itself, the computers already have that distortion accounted for, it's called calibration.
3. gravity generators are a wonderful technology. Too bad they don't exist.
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1) In sectors on the surface gravity is directed towards the centre, like on a planet.
However, these are only the out layers and in the sections inside, the artificial gravity is directed towards the southpole of the DS.
2) Each mass "creates" gravity, so no ship would be able to reach hyperspace if this were true. However, since the source of the gravity is moving, the gravity-well is moving with it.
3) Artificial gravity created on every deck, what means, that there is no single source and the influences of the huge mass of the DS is outbalanced (besides, even with a diameter of 900 kilometers it can´t have more gravity as an earth-sized planet, whichs core consists of solid iron).
However, these are only the out layers and in the sections inside, the artificial gravity is directed towards the southpole of the DS.
2) Each mass "creates" gravity, so no ship would be able to reach hyperspace if this were true. However, since the source of the gravity is moving, the gravity-well is moving with it.
3) Artificial gravity created on every deck, what means, that there is no single source and the influences of the huge mass of the DS is outbalanced (besides, even with a diameter of 900 kilometers it can´t have more gravity as an earth-sized planet, whichs core consists of solid iron).
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If there were grav generators on every deck, that woould put an extreme strain on the structure and on each deck. Also, the crews would be living in well over 4 Gs, so that may not make sense.
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Why do you think this? And why 4 Gs and not 5, 10 or 20?Admiral Johnason wrote:If there were grav generators on every deck, that woould put an extreme strain on the structure and on each deck. Also, the crews would be living in well over 4 Gs, so that may not make sense.
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No, there may be not grav generators on every deck, the ICS is silent in that respect, but, you can see this from two angles, there are power feeds from the grav generators to distributors on every deck, and let's say gravity is nullified between decks, or there is grav plating, since the technology to produce small, gravity defying, objects is well established (the sub-nucler knots of space-time from the AOTC: ICS).Admiral Johnason wrote:If there were grav generators on every deck, that woould put an extreme strain on the structure and on each deck. Also, the crews would be living in well over 4 Gs, so that may not make sense.
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Because I have a brain and am not afraid to use it.FTeik wrote:Why do you think this? And why 4 Gs and not 5, 10 or 20?Admiral Johnason wrote:If there were grav generators on every deck, that woould put an extreme strain on the structure and on each deck. Also, the crews would be living in well over 4 Gs, so that may not make sense.
The reason the number is low is that it leaves room for error. There are a lot of numbers over four.
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Interesting. But you can´t tell me, why there would be extreme strain on the structure or why the crew would be living in higher gravity.Admiral Johnason wrote:Because I have a brain and am not afraid to use it.FTeik wrote:Why do you think this? And why 4 Gs and not 5, 10 or 20?Admiral Johnason wrote:If there were grav generators on every deck, that woould put an extreme strain on the structure and on each deck. Also, the crews would be living in well over 4 Gs, so that may not make sense.
The reason the number is low is that it leaves room for error. There are a lot of numbers over four.
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So because you have a brain you assume that SW gravity tech is so crude as to not be able to compensate for the minor gravity given off from the Death Star OR the effects of their own grav tech? The center of gravity for the Death Star is obviously not the center of the ship, it wouldn't work like a planet.Admiral Johnason wrote:Because I have a brain and am not afraid to use it.FTeik wrote:Why do you think this? And why 4 Gs and not 5, 10 or 20?Admiral Johnason wrote:If there were grav generators on every deck, that woould put an extreme strain on the structure and on each deck. Also, the crews would be living in well over 4 Gs, so that may not make sense.
The reason the number is low is that it leaves room for error. There are a lot of numbers over four.
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Re: Death Star gravity
1. Doesn't matter, artificial gravity fixes this.Admiral Johnason wrote:These things just keep confusing me:
1. Where is the center of gravity if the decks are all linear and not spherical?
2. How can the DS enter hyperspace if it is large enough to create a grav well naturally?
3. How can each of the decks have the same level of gravity?
2. Fucking powerful hyperdrive.
3. Artificial gravity.
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Articial gravity generators can strenghten or weaken existing gravity.Admiral Johnason wrote:If there were grav generators on every deck, that woould put an extreme strain on the structure and on each deck. Also, the crews would be living in well over 4 Gs, so that may not make sense.
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There doesn't need to be, at least not in the DS1. You can put one single big gravitational generator, operating to create 1 G of gravity, and 160 kilometers up it will still be very close to 1 G.No, there may be not grav generators on every deck
Consider a real-life example: At the point where the Space Shuttle orbits the Earth, a hundred and fifty (or so) kilometers up, the gravity from Earth is still pretty close to what it is on the surface. That's why it has to orbit the planet so fast.
I think what he was asking was, Why do you assume that the crew would be living under 4 G's? What keeps them from living under 1 G?The reason the number is low is that it leaves room for error. There are a lot of numbers over four.
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And yet, the Death Star can accelerate its entire mass at over a hundred gravities (to say nothing of something like the Executor capable of thousands of gravities of acceleration) without straining the ship. Why exactly do you think 1 g would be a strain? SW ships are designed to accelerate at thousands of gravities for fucking hours on end.Admiral Johnason wrote:Because I have a brain and am not afraid to use it.FTeik wrote:Why do you think this? And why 4 Gs and not 5, 10 or 20?Admiral Johnason wrote:If there were grav generators on every deck, that woould put an extreme strain on the structure and on each deck. Also, the crews would be living in well over 4 Gs, so that may not make sense.
The reason the number is low is that it leaves room for error. There are a lot of numbers over four.
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Because I assumed that there would be several grav generators all throughout the DS, putting the strain of several Gs upon the crew and equipment. I aslo assumed that the inertia dampeners would only be used to stop acceleration's affect on the station during movement.Connor MacLeod wrote:And yet, the Death Star can accelerate its entire mass at over a hundred gravities (to say nothing of something like the Executor capable of thousands of gravities of acceleration) without straining the ship. Why exactly do you think 1 g would be a strain? SW ships are designed to accelerate at thousands of gravities for fucking hours on end.Admiral Johnason wrote:Because I have a brain and am not afraid to use it.FTeik wrote: Why do you think this? And why 4 Gs and not 5, 10 or 20?
The reason the number is low is that it leaves room for error. There are a lot of numbers over four.
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I might remind you those same Inertial dampers can protect the entire starship against the strain of a black hole (millions+ of gravity).Admiral Johnason wrote:Because I assumed that there would be several grav generators all throughout the DS, putting the strain of several Gs upon the crew and equipment. I aslo assumed that the inertia dampeners would only be used to stop acceleration's affect on the station during movement.Connor MacLeod wrote:And yet, the Death Star can accelerate its entire mass at over a hundred gravities (to say nothing of something like the Executor capable of thousands of gravities of acceleration) without straining the ship. Why exactly do you think 1 g would be a strain? SW ships are designed to accelerate at thousands of gravities for fucking hours on end.Admiral Johnason wrote: Because I have a brain and am not afraid to use it.
The reason the number is low is that it leaves room for error. There are a lot of numbers over four.
Besides which, why the hell would a single gravity put a strain on crew or equipment? Are you somehow thinking that Imperials cannot generate a stable one-gravity effect throughout their entire ship?
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No, I just didn't think of that. I guess your right.Connor MacLeod wrote:I might remind you those same Inertial dampers can protect the entire starship against the strain of a black hole (millions+ of gravity).Admiral Johnason wrote:Because I assumed that there would be several grav generators all throughout the DS, putting the strain of several Gs upon the crew and equipment. I aslo assumed that the inertia dampeners would only be used to stop acceleration's affect on the station during movement.Connor MacLeod wrote: And yet, the Death Star can accelerate its entire mass at over a hundred gravities (to say nothing of something like the Executor capable of thousands of gravities of acceleration) without straining the ship. Why exactly do you think 1 g would be a strain? SW ships are designed to accelerate at thousands of gravities for fucking hours on end.
Besides which, why the hell would a single gravity put a strain on crew or equipment? Are you somehow thinking that Imperials cannot generate a stable one-gravity effect throughout their entire ship?
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