I opened my eyes and I saw blood! I am very FUCKING ANGRY!
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I guess I should explain. I am not going to go 'Rambo' on his ass, but there are two people in my life that I would lay down in traffic for, no questions asked; my mother and my sister. I love them more than I ever thought it is possible.
The problem is not that he said what he said, Harry has been an ass from the first day I met him. I never trusted him, and I never feared him.
What bothers me is that he jumped out of the freaking shadows to acost my mother at her place of work and 5:50am in the morning. I mean there are a few troubling thoughts running through my mind. He had no way of knowing where my mother worked. The only way he could have known is by following her for half an hour in the morning to her place of work (stalking her), in order to confront her.
To do this, he would have to have been somewhere out the front of my house, which means at some time he should have seen my dad walk out and open the garage and start the car for my mum (he does this every day). He would have seen my mother drive off alone, and chose to persue her.
Now my mum was parked (at work), in the third parking spot closest to the one light in the parking area, where the walkway for the worker's entrance is, where the busiest traffic of workers walking in is. So the question in my mind, is what would have he done if my mother was parked in the 17th carpark or further from the light? Where there was very little 'worker traffic', and no lighting?
By this act alone, he reveals his true cowardice. He went out of his way to avoid a confrontation with anyone else in my family, but my mother. He preyed on her when she was the most vulnerable.
Now call me silly, however I would think that my mother (or anyone else for that matter) has the right to feel safe and secure in their country. That she has the right to choose who to speak to, when to speak to them, and about what to speak about. He ambushed her while she had just turned off the engine, jamming her in place to have his little speal.
I am sorry but that, in my book is an act of cold-hearted terrorism of an individual.
And what really gets me angry is that there was nothing I could do to stop him from hurting my mother at that point. Nothing.
The little creep has fucking aggrevated me beyond imagining, because I too have the right to defend my loved ones, and he took that right from me.
The Intervention order, prohibits him (or anyone else on his behalf) from being knowingly withing 200m of my mother, without a police officer present. Neither can anyone harass my mother about this in anyway shape or form (telephone, mail, etc). Any breach in this will result in a $26,000 fine and a jail sentence for him. Regardless of who it was.
This is up to the 20th of August, until the Magistrate's office will sit in a hearing to decide whether or not to make the Intervention permanent.
Now a small part of me is just wishing for that little fucker to dis-obey and come to this house. There is a small part of me that wants to smash his face until it collapses in on its self.
However what also really, really, really cuts me up. Is that he has already won. My mother has been sitting like a zombie for the whole fucking day. I doubt she even noticed the day go by. And I know that she isn't going to get better quick. You see had he threatened her, and just her, she would have gotten angry (she's soooooo cute when she's angry), she would have gotten viscious, she would have gotten thick-skinned. But that little waste of genetic material, threatened me. He used me as leverage over her. And I don't like the thought that she is so paralysed right now, so spaced out, because she thinks that I am vulnerable. I don't like the feeling that I am the reason she hasn't snapped out of it.
It bleeds my heart when I look into her eyes, and she looks back at me with fear. Fear of losing me.
This is psychological warfare 1-0-1 people, and he has the first set. Now I want my share. I want him to go away for a very long time. I want that whore of a mother of his to look at us acusingly with a 'what have you done to my son' expression. And I want to give that whore the works until she croaks and dies. This is total in my mind. They will pay for this.
I have spent the last 3 hours trying to get my mum to snap out of it, trying to get her to laugh. And finally at the end, it is starting to work. She laughed and now she is sleeping.
But I hope that his parents are staying up right now, wondering, worried, and looking at two of Melbourne's finest police constables as they deliver the Intervention order. I want them to stew in their own hatred. I want them to suffer as they made my mother suffer. No one treats my mother like that. No one.
The problem is not that he said what he said, Harry has been an ass from the first day I met him. I never trusted him, and I never feared him.
What bothers me is that he jumped out of the freaking shadows to acost my mother at her place of work and 5:50am in the morning. I mean there are a few troubling thoughts running through my mind. He had no way of knowing where my mother worked. The only way he could have known is by following her for half an hour in the morning to her place of work (stalking her), in order to confront her.
To do this, he would have to have been somewhere out the front of my house, which means at some time he should have seen my dad walk out and open the garage and start the car for my mum (he does this every day). He would have seen my mother drive off alone, and chose to persue her.
Now my mum was parked (at work), in the third parking spot closest to the one light in the parking area, where the walkway for the worker's entrance is, where the busiest traffic of workers walking in is. So the question in my mind, is what would have he done if my mother was parked in the 17th carpark or further from the light? Where there was very little 'worker traffic', and no lighting?
By this act alone, he reveals his true cowardice. He went out of his way to avoid a confrontation with anyone else in my family, but my mother. He preyed on her when she was the most vulnerable.
Now call me silly, however I would think that my mother (or anyone else for that matter) has the right to feel safe and secure in their country. That she has the right to choose who to speak to, when to speak to them, and about what to speak about. He ambushed her while she had just turned off the engine, jamming her in place to have his little speal.
I am sorry but that, in my book is an act of cold-hearted terrorism of an individual.
And what really gets me angry is that there was nothing I could do to stop him from hurting my mother at that point. Nothing.
The little creep has fucking aggrevated me beyond imagining, because I too have the right to defend my loved ones, and he took that right from me.
The Intervention order, prohibits him (or anyone else on his behalf) from being knowingly withing 200m of my mother, without a police officer present. Neither can anyone harass my mother about this in anyway shape or form (telephone, mail, etc). Any breach in this will result in a $26,000 fine and a jail sentence for him. Regardless of who it was.
This is up to the 20th of August, until the Magistrate's office will sit in a hearing to decide whether or not to make the Intervention permanent.
Now a small part of me is just wishing for that little fucker to dis-obey and come to this house. There is a small part of me that wants to smash his face until it collapses in on its self.
However what also really, really, really cuts me up. Is that he has already won. My mother has been sitting like a zombie for the whole fucking day. I doubt she even noticed the day go by. And I know that she isn't going to get better quick. You see had he threatened her, and just her, she would have gotten angry (she's soooooo cute when she's angry), she would have gotten viscious, she would have gotten thick-skinned. But that little waste of genetic material, threatened me. He used me as leverage over her. And I don't like the thought that she is so paralysed right now, so spaced out, because she thinks that I am vulnerable. I don't like the feeling that I am the reason she hasn't snapped out of it.
It bleeds my heart when I look into her eyes, and she looks back at me with fear. Fear of losing me.
This is psychological warfare 1-0-1 people, and he has the first set. Now I want my share. I want him to go away for a very long time. I want that whore of a mother of his to look at us acusingly with a 'what have you done to my son' expression. And I want to give that whore the works until she croaks and dies. This is total in my mind. They will pay for this.
I have spent the last 3 hours trying to get my mum to snap out of it, trying to get her to laugh. And finally at the end, it is starting to work. She laughed and now she is sleeping.
But I hope that his parents are staying up right now, wondering, worried, and looking at two of Melbourne's finest police constables as they deliver the Intervention order. I want them to stew in their own hatred. I want them to suffer as they made my mother suffer. No one treats my mother like that. No one.
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Can't you convince your mother that there's almost no chance that you are going to fall prey to the punk? I should imagine that a good way to bring your mother around is to demonstrate for her all the reasons that you, and her, are going to be protected from this twit, whether legally or through personal defense. In most cases I can think of - where you have some prior knowledge of who and what is threatening you - it's not hard to create a safe environment.Crown wrote:It bleeds my heart when I look into her eyes, and she looks back at me with fear. Fear of losing me.
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It appears that a mother's love knows no rational boundaries. I have tried explaining to her, that with the Intervention order in play, she is un-touchable. Unfortunately, as she well knows, the intervention order does not extend to me. She knows that I am not intimidated by him, but she's thinking that he himself won't do anything but rather try and get someone else to do it.Lagmonster wrote:Can't you convince your mother that there's almost no chance that you are going to fall prey to the punk? I should imagine that a good way to bring your mother around is to demonstrate for her all the reasons that you, and her, are going to be protected from this twit, whether legally or through personal defense. In most cases I can think of - where you have some prior knowledge of who and what is threatening you - it's not hard to create a safe environment.Crown wrote:It bleeds my heart when I look into her eyes, and she looks back at me with fear. Fear of losing me.
After all, I can protect myself from threats that are known to me, but how can I protect myself from someone I don't even know?
Sounds far-fetched? Yes it is, however at this point she is far from a rational state of mind.
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What a fucking malaka pusti vlaka hazos ... palavos and because my Greek needs work fucking superstitious dumb as shit can't-take-responsibility-for-his-own-life wanker.
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That about covers it. However what has got me worried is why the overt attack now? I mean we have known for years what they have been saying, but talk is cheap.Vympel wrote:What a fucking malaka pusti vlaka hazos ... palavos and because my Greek needs work fucking superstitious dumb as shit can't-take-responsibility-for-his-own-life wanker.
I wasn't at the Magistrates office today, I went to uni just to prove to mum not to let this fucker ruin our lives and hold us hostage, but from what my sister told me, the Magistrate's face was one of shock and dis-belief. He even suggested the posibility that he might have gone off his rocker.
Which is scary. A stupid angry Harry I can deal with, a mentally un-balanced Harry? I have no idea what he is thinking.
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Here's something I know for sure. Angry people are focussed. They have one thing in mind and they mull over it endlessly, in different ways, like an obsession. Crazy people are random. They lack focus and do things spontaneously and to whatever and whomever is nearest, including themselves.Crown wrote:Which is scary. A stupid angry Harry I can deal with, a mentally un-balanced Harry? I have no idea what he is thinking.
Are random people scarier than focussed people? Not by a long shot. Are focussed people more DANGEROUS than random people? Hell no.
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Isn't there some kind of criminal charge applicable?
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I did specify stupid didn't I? Harry lacks the mental discipline to be focused on anything. However a random timebomb is not an appealing prospect.Lagmonster wrote:Are random people scarier than focussed people? Not by a long shot. Are focussed people more DANGEROUS than random people? Hell no.Crown wrote:Which is scary. A stupid angry Harry I can deal with, a mentally un-balanced Harry? I have no idea what he is thinking.
He didn't actually touch my mother, so assualt is out. Perhaps abuse and harrassment? Either way, should we win on the 20th, I will be happy to put this episode behind me. For if should anything bad happen to me or mine, who has motive? He isn't that stupid.Darth Wong wrote:Isn't there some kind of criminal charge applicable?
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Trying to get something from your mother using threats against her or her kin is extortion. In this case the "something" isn't physical so I'm not sure it applies. I’m not a lawyer, but if he said “do *this* I’ll harm your son”…. that might be extortion.Crown wrote: He didn't actually touch my mother, so assualt is out. Perhaps abuse and harrassment? Either way, should we win on the 20th, I will be happy to put this episode behind me. For if should anything bad happen to me or mine, who has motive? He isn't that stupid.
I think this would be the most serious charge possible. It doesn't sound like the threat against you was directed at you for a reason (ie. its not a general reactionary threat because he doesn't like you) . It was a thought-out threat directed at your mother to get her to do something, so I think its more serious.
"Uttering death threats" is probably out. Harassment defiantly applies, but that'd be a lesser charge, probably no jail-time in that.
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Crown, I highly suggest you give your mother some type of recording device and a can of mace. If he approaches her again, she can tape the entire damn thing and use it as evidence. The mace....well, she can nail him with that if he gets too close. You might even want to invest in video survailance equipment just incase he decides to stalk a little more.
Your best bet here is to gather as much evidence as possibile against this asshole so he will get nailed.
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Threatening someone is assault--battery is actually harming them. Believe me, if somebody threatens to paralyze a woman's son, that's worth criminal charges. Proving it would be the tricky part--if the entire conversation was in Greek, none of the witnesses can confirm what he said.Crown wrote:He didn't actually touch my mother, so assualt is out. Perhaps abuse and harrassment? Either way, should we win on the 20th, I will be happy to put this episode behind me. For if should anything bad happen to me or mine, who has motive? He isn't that stupid.
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I know this has been said over and over. But dont let the mentlally diseased hatfucker get to you.
And dont focus on your anger. Trust me, it will be there when and if you need it. BUt you need to let your mom see that this whole thing doesnt bother you. She sees that it is bothering you one way or another, and those protective motherly instincts flare up. Let her see that yu are calm and rational, and dont let this have an effect on your life(other than showering her with love of course) and she will calm down.
And dont focus on your anger. Trust me, it will be there when and if you need it. BUt you need to let your mom see that this whole thing doesnt bother you. She sees that it is bothering you one way or another, and those protective motherly instincts flare up. Let her see that yu are calm and rational, and dont let this have an effect on your life(other than showering her with love of course) and she will calm down.
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Judging from the way your mother has been acting the past day, you could also probably get him on intentional infliction of mental distress charges (or whatever the equivalent tort of that is in Australia).
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Nah, don't use mace. A can of WD-40 and a lighter. If he's caught by surprise then bye bye eyeballs.Vertigo1 wrote:Crown, I highly suggest you give your mother some type of recording device and a can of mace. If he approaches her again, she can tape the entire damn thing and use it as evidence. The mace....well, she can nail him with that if he gets too close.<snip>
IMHO, I wouldn't know what I'd do if I were in your shoes. Something like that would unite my whole family against the aggressor. Believe me, all of my family and relatives here and in Portugal would be sharpening their knives in wanting to slice him up.
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Also, Crown, I know this is the last thing you're thinking about right now and it sounds really callous for me to say this, but you might want to take your mother to a psychiatrist ASAP. It will be much easier to make whatever charges you throw at this guy stick with the testimony of a shrink verifying just how badly messed up your mother was after the assault.
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Thanks for all of your kind words and support guys. I just needed to vent. However my mother appears to be much better today so that's a plus.
However, my dad, my sister and her fiance and me, well we are still angry, but I have better things to do with my life than worry about some cum stain.
However, my dad, my sister and her fiance and me, well we are still angry, but I have better things to do with my life than worry about some cum stain.
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All I can say is that I HATE being used as a pawn in a family feud.. I've been used that way for the past 19 years, and I can't stand to see anyone else be used like that. I hope things get better for you soon, Crown. [hugs]
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{hugs back}verilon wrote:All I can say is that I HATE being used as a pawn in a family feud.. I've been used that way for the past 19 years, and I can't stand to see anyone else be used like that. I hope things get better for you soon, Crown. [hugs]
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Thanks buddy. What's done is done, I want my mother to move on.
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Something must have happened to him that drove him over the edge and he is now looking for someone, anyone, to blame for his misfortune. Unfortunatly your family seems to be the easiest target for him because of the history with your family.
I know that you or anyone in your position dont want to drastically change their lives because of some nut-job with an agenda, but try not to put yourself in an exposed position.
Like another posted suggested, get your mother, and your family members a can of mace. Try not to be alone in public, stay in well lite areas..well you get the idea.
I know that you or anyone in your position dont want to drastically change their lives because of some nut-job with an agenda, but try not to put yourself in an exposed position.
Like another posted suggested, get your mother, and your family members a can of mace. Try not to be alone in public, stay in well lite areas..well you get the idea.
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Beating the living shit out of the guy would still be the most satisfying remedy, but it would cause a lot of its own problems (criminal charges among them). Too bad.
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Same here - I have a HELLACIOUS temper, and this asstwat would beCol. Crackpot wrote:holy fuck man! You are a better man than I Crown, my irish temper would have gotten the best of me. good luck dealing with this asswipe.
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