Bush Declares National Emergency for Iraqi Oil

[Iceberg]

and suspends all investigations of the companies involved in Iraq.

So much for the argument that we went into Iraq to get rid of Saddam Hussein.[/url]

[Alyrium Denryle]

This is why we need to get the plant OUT of the whitehouse.

[EmperorSolo51]

and suspends all investigations of the companies involved in Iraq.

So much for the argument that we went into Iraq to get rid of Saddam Hussein.[/url]

This looks bogus. Where did you find this?

[Joe]

No, it's real. The reason for this is to prevent lawsuits tying up the oil money the U.S. is using to help pay for the reconstruction of Iraq. The national emergency stuff is retarded, though.

[Howedar]

I want a better source on this.

If its true, its pretty disturbing though.

[Worlds Spanner]

Show me that document on a .gov domain, PLEASE!

[Joe]

Here ya go.

[SPOOFE]

So much for the argument that we went into Iraq to get rid of Saddam Hussein.

How does this destroy that argument?

[The Duchess of Zeon]

You need money to rebuild a country.

[Joe]

You need money to rebuild a country.

Indeed, and the case of the Belgian lawyer and his Energy Weapons of Doom shows that the U.S. can't allow parasitic lawyers an avenue to make things more difficult for us.

[Darth Wong]

Everything is a fucking national emergency or national security issue lately. The latest travesty is a bill intended to make MP3 sharing a national security issue. This is just par for the course in 21st century America; it's hard to believe that this is the country of Thomas Jefferson.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Protecting agains stupid lawsuits is one thing. But what if a lawsuit isnto so frivelous. He is making them IMMUNE from prosecution, doesnt anyone see the magnitude of that??

[Joe]

Protecting agains stupid lawsuits is one thing. But what if a lawsuit isnto so frivelous. He is making them IMMUNE from prosecution, doesnt anyone see the magnitude of that??

It's unfortunate but necessary. What we need to do now is rebuild Iraq as quickly as possible, and what we don't need is to be tied up in court while trying to do so. I do hope that this policy is changed later on, though.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Hope is a bit different from having it actually happen.

I personally would bet money that this policy will continue after the reconstruction.

[Iceberg]

Protecting agains stupid lawsuits is one thing. But what if a lawsuit isnto so frivelous. He is making them IMMUNE from prosecution, doesnt anyone see the magnitude of that??

It's unfortunate but necessary.

'This is unfortunate but necessary' is typically the preamble to a person or group of people losing his or their rights to enrich another person or group of people.

[Iceberg]

Everything is a fucking national emergency or national security issue lately. The latest travesty is a bill intended to make MP3 sharing a national security issue. This is just par for the course in 21st century America; it's hard to believe that this is the country of Thomas Jefferson.

That's because the people in power (Democrat as well as Republican) in this country see "national security" as a way to steamroll principled objection to their immoral schemes.

[Joe]

Protecting agains stupid lawsuits is one thing. But what if a lawsuit isnto so frivelous. He is making them IMMUNE from prosecution, doesnt anyone see the magnitude of that??

It's unfortunate but necessary.

'This is unfortunate but necessary' is typically the preamble to a person or group of people losing his or their rights to enrich another person or group of people.

OK, thanks for that useless quip.

[Vendetta]

Protecting agains stupid lawsuits is one thing. But what if a lawsuit isnto so frivelous. He is making them IMMUNE from prosecution, doesnt anyone see the magnitude of that??

It's unfortunate but necessary. What we need to do now is rebuild Iraq as quickly as possible, and what we don't need is to be tied up in court while trying to do so. I do hope that this policy is changed later on, though.

It wasn't however, necessary in Afghanistan.

Just as politically unstable, but less rich in oil resources.

[Joe]

Protecting agains stupid lawsuits is one thing. But what if a lawsuit isnto so frivelous. He is making them IMMUNE from prosecution, doesnt anyone see the magnitude of that??

It's unfortunate but necessary. What we need to do now is rebuild Iraq as quickly as possible, and what we don't need is to be tied up in court while trying to do so. I do hope that this policy is changed later on, though.

It wasn't however, necessary in Afghanistan.

Just as politically unstable, but less rich in oil resources.

What are you saying?

[Alyrium Denryle]

I think what he is saying is pretty damn clear.

The Shrub is giving his oil buddies afew little benifits at the expense of due process.

[Stravo]

Protecting agains stupid lawsuits is one thing. But what if a lawsuit isnto so frivelous. He is making them IMMUNE from prosecution, doesnt anyone see the magnitude of that??

It's unfortunate but necessary. What we need to do now is rebuild Iraq as quickly as possible, and what we don't need is to be tied up in court while trying to do so. I do hope that this policy is changed later on, though.

It wasn't however, necessary in Afghanistan.

Just as politically unstable, but less rich in oil resources.

Afghanistan was not going to pay for its own reconstruction. Iraq's oil industry was going to pay for its reconstruction, a plan well known before the war began. If Afghanistan's poppy industry was going to be used to pay for its own reconstruction then there would be similar executive orders. Nothing sucks the money and resources faster than legal actions and liens.

[Joe]

There's no oil to protect in Afghanistan - nothing that can be used to help finance the rebuilding of the country. Why would it be necessary?

Not that there wasn't caterwauling about oil with regards to the Afghanistan campaign, though (remember the oil pipeline business?).

[The Duchess of Zeon]

I think what he is saying is pretty damn clear.

The Shrub is giving his oil buddies afew little benifits at the expense of due process.

Maybe it could just be... Oh wow!... We don't want to pay for rebuilding two countries at once? But you wouldn't care; a tax-and-spend like yourself would just raise taxes to do it, and then watch as you send the country into debt because no tax revenue gets raised when doing so destroys the economy.

[Iceberg]

I still fail to understand why "tax-and-spend" is supposed to be an insult, given that it's typically used by people who advocate the government's current "borrow and spend" fiscal policy.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

I still fail to understand why "tax-and-spend" is supposed to be an insult, given that it's typically used by people who advocate the government's current "borrow and spend" fiscal policy.

The current government policy is based on the demonstrated fact that lowering taxes improved the economy, resulting in long-term higher government revenues, despite the lower levels of taxation.