Stargate SG-1 anybody?

[Darth Garden Gnome]

I dont know about the rest of you but i really enjoy this show, and some of its tech seems extremley powerful. The G'ahould (sp?) have those enourmous pyramid ships which have shields capable of absorbing "ion cannon blasts" (SG equivilent to heavy planetary turbolasers) and from what we saw in TESB a star destroyer shields couldnt handle such a powerful blast-ion or otherwise i should think. While G'ahould ground forces seem to be lacking in there primary weapon, which is a long, cumbersome, slow-firing, and often non-lethal staff like energy gun. There pistol weapons are far more practical, firing blue energy bolts, whcih can be fired in rapid sucsession, were one hit knocks the target unconsious the seconds kill him and the third does the phaser dissapearing act thing.

The Tokra civ developed soemthing along the lines of phase-cloaking bombs, they can pass through any material and detonate and as seen are weapons of mass destruction. Tokra also seem to have developed phase-shifting technology on a individual scale, as they can walk through walls by wearing a wrist device.

The replicators "species" are small robotic spiders that can take any material and "replicate" it into another replicator, and there only mission is to find things to replicate. As seen in SG-1 replicators can increase the efficentcy of a G'ahould hyperdrive (which is considerably slower than SW hyperdrive by far) to make it go 800 times as fast, which is rather impresssive if you ask me. They are unaffected by energy weapons and can only be destroyed through use of projectile shooters. And can effectivley kill any organic unit through replicating his face (ouch), and any mech by replicating parts of it until it ceases to function.

There is also the Azgard (small guys, pasty grey skin, big heads wiht large eyes you know who im talkin bout), although little is seen from them they do have the capability to produce massicve warships-perhaps ISD size-that are desribed clearley as more powerful than G'ahould ships. Thsi is impressive when comapred with the ion cannon fact.

Any thoughts on this subject?

[Cpt_Frank]

Sometimes the show is really enjoiable, sometimes not.
They are incorporating some very obvious rips of ST (this shield frequency modulation thing for example.)
And their tech really isn't that powerful.
As for the Ion canon blast:
The SW hoth ion canon was, according to EGWV, able to penetrate any shield, and the SD was only out of controll for several minutes.
The SG Ion Canon wasn't a weapon to disable, but a weapon to destroy.
Probably if you have shields that are strong enough you can withstand their power.
(Btw, this was another very obvious rip: A planetary ion canon as a defensive weapon...)
SG is cool nonetheless.

[Darth Garden Gnome]

indeed they have trek rips, sheild frequency, ion cannon planetary defences, phase shifting/cloaking, replicating, but there taken far more lightly in SG instead of the show revolving around the tech like in ST

[Cpt_Frank]

That is, why I still like it, although carter sometimes (but rarely) unleashes technobabble salvoes which would make Data or Geordi proud.
But nothing's perfect I guess.

[Darth Garden Gnome]

well the fact that the show is about the less advanced humans (and colonel o'neals witty humour) probably cuts down on technobabble considerably

[BenRG]

It is difficult to judge the power of those planetary defence batteries. In the climactic battle, a double shot is enough to kill a Gou'ald Mothership (the ISD-equivalent). That puts them on the same power range as the planetary defence ion cannon from ESB but with blast rather than systems-disrupting effects. Furthermore, the turret is responsive enought to kill a GP fighter.

Gou'ald space technology has gone down a slightly different route than Imperial technology. Gou'ald equipment is designed primarily for conquest of technically inferior species and then to frighten and overawe (the 'god' fixation that the snakeheads seem to have). While Imperial technology is more geared towards true even-footed millitary struggles (probably as a result of the Clone Wars where the odds were more-or-less even). One-on-one, an ISD2 would probably come off marginally the winner against a Gou'ald mothership, but I won't put a lot of passion into that opinion.

The Jaffa Energy Staff appears to be an all-in-one weapons solution combining battlefield firearm, hand-to-hand weapon and even utility tool. The Zat gun is probably more powerful, but seems to work using a different form of energy (different particle emission spectra).

The Tokra are a terrorist/freedom fighter organisation in philosophy, planning and technology, so you should expect a lot of development directed towards covert weapons and surveilance methods as well as instruments of terror. Most of their equipment is identical to the Gou'ald, which is unsurprising as they are a subspecies of the same life form.

The Asgard are clearly enormously powerful. However, similar to the Federation of Star Trek, over-dependence on technology and 'bigger, flashier, faster' solutions have left them vulnerable in the face of enemies that can adapt to and beat any energy-based attack (shades of the Borg). Nonetheless their ships (and I loved their newest SD the "O'Neill" ) are most impressive and their molecular disassembly weapons are truely frightening in action, killing two Gou'ald assault support transports in a few seconds.

Overall, we have a galaxy where the three established civilisations (the Gou'ald, the Asgard and those scruffy guys, I forget their species name) are suddenly having to deal with the emergence of the Tau'rai as a spacegoing power and the unexpected threat of the Replicators.

Things are going to get ugly, mark my words.

[Darth Garden Gnome]

well it is seen that a jaffa staff gun is inferior to SG-1s machine guns in a an episode wheer they deliver supplies to a jaffa resistance movement, when a staff fires ona tree it causes small burn marks, little visible damgae or fragmentation, when SG-1 uses there guns even one bullet seems to do significantly more damage, ZATs IMHO are far superior as O'neil said "this staff is a wepaon of terror, it is meant to frighten the enemy, this gun (machine gun) is a weapon of war, it is meant to kill the enemy."

[Darth Garden Gnome]

however when carter does spew out apparently nonsensical drivel, she usually turns and explains what shes talking abotu to a befuddled colonel oneal

[David]

I love the show, but more for the people than the technology.

[Howedar]

It's a great show.

Oh, and its spelled
Goa'uld

[David]

Anbd don't forget the ' in Tok'ra

[Wicked Pilot]

The show is cool because the Air Force is in it

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

That is, why I still like it, although carter sometimes (but rarely) unleashes technobabble salvoes which would make Data or Geordi proud.
But nothing's perfect I guess.

Yes but it has O'Neal going "Uh...? What?"

[David]

Actually the technobabble is not nearly as bad, most of the stuff she talks about is real.


We need O'Neal to make a guest appearnce in a ST episode.

[Typhonis 1]

*LOL* I can see it now after three minutes on the Enterprise he goes"um excuse me but where is the head?"

[SCVN 2812]

The most powerful Goa'uld weapon we know of does 250 megatons of damage and was used to bomb an alternate universe Earth. Given the extremely high energy potential of naquada, with just whatever can be stuffed in a rocket casing able to turn an icbm in a gigaton range weapon. Refined naquada coupled with an icbm, according to a comment from the series, would be able to devastate the US. The Goa'uld are powerful, but they are not as powerful as the average Star Wars race. Now the Asgard, the Asgard, in my opinion, could probably rip just about anybody a new one.

[Mr. B]

I would rather watch a lackluster episode of SG1 than (shudder) Voyager. Damn that bitch Janeway, the crew should have spaced her after the first episode.

[NecronLord]

The Goa'uld have recently improved their technology, upgraded their sheilds to the point of being invunrable to Ion Cannons, and exterminating the Tollan, Destroying One asgard mothership. And discovering how to turn a stargate into a gigantic bomb (2.5 gigaton blast).

[David]

I haven't seen SG-1 lately, so I don't know what recent developments are.

[Emperor Norton II]

If you get Sci-Fi channel in your area they're running SG1 on Fridays. So far the new season has been pretty interesting. SGC is renting the Russian’s Stargate after theirs got blown up in episode 2.

[David]

Yeah, I watched the first episode on Friday and have since been busy those nights. What happened to Daniel?

[Darth Garden Gnome]

he died of radiation poisoning, he saved some planet (wwhere the new SG-1 teammember is from, name escapes me rite now) from a accidently detonating nuke that woulda killed everyone

[David]

I'm glad I missed that one.

[Darth Garden Gnome]

bah, i was never a big fan of peace loving hippe daniel, althouhg i do havta admit i had grown used to him and was pretty unhappy he died. oh well as long as oneil is alive the show is kickin

[XaLEv]

'Die' is kinda inaccurate. He let his body die in order to ascend, like Oma Desala and that guy who fell in love with Carter, Orlin I think his name was. He'll be back in the next episode, and I think once more later in the season.