I think I'm going to be sick

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-08-08 01:05am

It's Naval Aviator Bush!

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-08-08 01:06am

Collect his father's figure, Naval Aviator Bush, with realistic Japanese Lifeboat Machine Gunning action!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-08 01:06am

I suppose there's money to be made off anything.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-08-08 01:09am

Capitalism conquers all.

I just want my poseable Richard Nixon, complete with 'I am not a crook' voiceover.

And for the (blind) adult market, there's a poseable, anatomically-correct Clinton and Monica set.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-08-08 01:16am

That is fucked up.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-08-08 01:17am

I just found a present for my dad.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-08 01:20am

MKSheppard wrote:Collect his father's figure, Naval Aviator Bush, with realistic Japanese Lifeboat Machine Gunning action!

That was mostly the Army Air force and Marines

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2003-08-08 01:21am

Wheres the bottle of Jack. How can the kids emulate Bush while sober.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-08-08 01:24am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:Collect his father's figure, Naval Aviator Bush, with realistic Japanese Lifeboat Machine Gunning action!
That was mostly the Army Air force and Marines

I heard Dad was a bit trigger-happy when it came to the lifeboats.
And U.S. submariners were very guilty of it, as well. There's even film....

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2003-08-08 01:39am

Frank Hipper wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:Collect his father's figure, Naval Aviator Bush, with realistic Japanese Lifeboat Machine Gunning action!
That was mostly the Army Air force and Marines
I heard Dad was a bit trigger-happy when it came to the lifeboats.
And U.S. submariners were very guilty of it, as well. There's even film....

To be fair, isn't unlimited targetting standard practice for submariners? Not that it wasn't terrible, I'm pretty sure subs are just told to fire on any hull they see sticking down.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-08 01:43am

Frank Hipper wrote:I heard Dad was a bit trigger-happy when it came to the lifeboats.
And U.S. submariners were very guilty of it, as well. There's even film....

It was a matter of opportunity really, the Air force and land based Marine units encountered a lot more barges and troop transports then naval fliers did. Submarines where perfectly justified on firing on Japanese's troops in boats, there where numerous cases of such troops firing on the subs and even aircraft.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-08-08 01:46am

PrinceofLowLight wrote:
To be fair, isn't unlimited targetting standard practice for submariners? Not that it wasn't terrible, I'm pretty sure subs are just told to fire on any hull they see sticking down.

Actually, I was talking about machine-gunning lifeboats.

Hospital ships are a no-no, as are a non-combatant nation's shipping(obviously). But in the pacific, I doubt that any American sub commander would hold his fire on anything that was flying a Japanese flag.
And in a similar vein, the Germans have a somewhat undesreved reputation when it comes to the behavior of their sub skippers. AFAIK, there was never a case of a German boat opening fire on lifeboats, despite propaganda to the contrary.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-08-08 02:49am

You know, somewhere in America there is a sicko that is gonna stick that doll up an ass.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-08 02:53am

It's funny cuz it's true.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-08 02:58am

Frank Hipper wrote: Hospital ships are a no-no, as are a non-combatant nation's shipping(obviously). But in the pacific, I doubt that any American sub commander would hold his fire on anything that was flying a Japanese flag.

Incorrect. The Japanese operated a lot of hospital ships, so many that most commanders thought they must be carrying war material. Indeed one commando group proposed sending several members along on sub missions to board the ships and search them.

Higher ups in the fleet vetoed the plan, many believed the intelligence and other reports that they where often hauling war material. But they also thought that they where likely armed as well and thus any boarding attempt would likely result in the subs ambush. They however also refused to allow attacks on the ships.

During the war there was one case in which a hospital ship was sunk by an American sub, in 1945 and it was a nighttime attack by radar in the fog. The target was identified after it had been hit. The commander of the boat was to be court marshaled, but Japan surrendered before it could happen. An examination of documents found that the ship had in fact been hauling ores from Manchuria to Japan and charges where dropped.

And in a similar vein, the Germans have a somewhat undesreved reputation when it comes to the behavior of their sub skippers. AFAIK, there was never a case of a German boat opening fire on lifeboats, despite propaganda to the contrary.

There where quite a few actually as where there cases of deliberate attacks on hospital ships

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-08-08 03:11am

UUUHHHG my BRAIN HURTS!!!

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-08-08 03:35am

Sea Skimmer wrote: There where quite a few actually as where there cases of deliberate attacks on hospital ships

I would have imagined that this site, of all possible sites, would have mentioned that. It mentions the disregard that U-Boat skippers were to have towards rescue, a few attacks on fishing trawlers, and an order to not commit to the log any action that broke the Geneva Convention, but I can't find anything on machine-gunning lifeboats, or attacks on hospital ships.

However, there was an attack on a hospital ship during WWI, but the U-Boat's skipper claimed to have not recognised it for what it was. And this was not the Britanic, either. Just because Bob Ballard couldn't find a mine anchor and cable does not mean that the ship didn't run into a mine.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-08-08 01:52pm

Bah, I wan't my fully poseable Tony Blair with real spinning action.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-08-08 03:12pm

Did they include the big Bulge on the doll?

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-08-08 04:06pm

Vympel wrote:It's Naval Aviator Bush!

I'd rather have Blowjob Clinton... or do you know what would be really cool, Jerry Falwell humping his mother in the outhouse.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-08 11:15pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:Collect his father's figure, Naval Aviator Bush, with realistic Japanese Lifeboat Machine Gunning action!
That was mostly the Army Air force and Marines

No that's actually on Bush senior's war record. After sinking a Japanese supply ship, Bush senior straffed the lifeboats. This was one week after the first Kamikazi attacks...

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-08-09 12:42am

Where's McCain's action figure? He's the actual naval aviator and war hero.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-08-09 01:09am

Wicked Pilot wrote:Where's McCain's action figure? He's the actual naval aviator and war hero.

Oh, the McCain figure comes prepackaged with the North Vietnamese
prison cell and interrogator, plus torture equipment modelled off Frank
Hipper's museum pieces!

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-08-09 01:15am

3rd Impact wrote:Bah, I wan't my fully poseable Tony Blair with real spinning action.

Does that come with the matching Bush doll so the two can hold hands?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-09 03:43am

hmm there's so many more...

Dammit I want my Safari/San Jaun hill out fit Teddy Roosevelt!!!

Complete with Nitus Express rifle...

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