reperations

[Enforcer Talen]

"Love him or loath him, he nailed this one right on
the
head.

By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation
between
victims of the September 11 casualty and those who
die

serving the country in Uniform are profound. No
one
is really talking about it either, because you
just
don't criticize anything having to do with
September
11. Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by
because it says something really disturbing about
the
entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost
a
family member in the September 11 attack, you're
going

to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a
minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to
$4.7
million.

If you are a surviving family member of an
American
soldier killed in action, the first check you get
is a

$6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is
taxable.

Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are
the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until
you
remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month
for
each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those
payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are
getting
an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million
are
complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths
were
tragic, but for most, they were simply in the
wrong
place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves
in
harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their
families
know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the
victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have
started an
organization asking for the same deal that the
September 11 families are getting. In addition to
that, some of the families of those bombed in the
embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks,
this
is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement
politics in this country. It's just really sad.
Every
time a pay raise comes up for the military, they
usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now
the
green machine is in combat in the Middle East
while
their families have to survive on food stamps and
live

in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress just voted
themselves a
raise, and many of you don't know that they only
have
to be in Congress one time to receive a pension
that
is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now
equal
to being millionaires plus. They also do not
receive
Social Security on retirement because they didn't
have

to pay into the system.

If some of the military people stay in for 20
years
and get out as an E-7, you may receive a pension
of
$1,000 per month, and the very people who placed
you
in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per
month.
I would like to see our elected officials pick up
a
weapon and join ranks before they start cutting
out
benefits and lowering pay for our sons and
daughters
who are now fighting.

"When do we finally do something about this?" If
this
doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward
this
to as many people as you can. If you're interested
there
is more.......................

This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it
going.
SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. It's
short
and to the point.) Many of you may have already
seen
this part, so it will be a depressing reminder....

Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during
election years. Our Senators and Congressmen do
not
pay into Social Security. Many years ago they
voted
in their own benefit plan. In more recent years,
no
congressperson has felt the need to change it. For
all practical purposes their plan works like this:

When they retire, they continue to draw the same
pay
until they die, except it may increase from time
to
time for cost of living adjustments. For example,
former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and
their
wives may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven
Million, Eight Hundred Thousand), with their wives
drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their
lives.

This is calculated on an average life span for
each.

Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00.
These
little perks they voted for themselves is free to
them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan.

The funds for this fine retirement plan come
directly
from the General Fund--our tax dollars at work!
From
our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay
(or
have paid) into-- every payday until we retire
(which
amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect
to
get an average $1,000 per month after retirement.
Or,
in other words, we would have to collect our
average
of
$1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one month
to
equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!

Social Security could be very good if only one
small
change were made. And that change would be to jerk
the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the
Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social
Security plan with the rest of us and then watch
how
fast they would fix it.

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of
awareness will be planted and maybe good changes
will
evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a> difference..

How many people can YOU send this to?"

[Joe]

Wow, very eye opening. I usually don't listen to Rush anymore but this is good stuff.

[StimNeuro]

Nice words, but can someone please fix the formatting?

[Darth Wong]

The people who died in the WTC bombing were largely well-off. Like it or not, people tend to decide the compensation value of a human being by how much money he was making. Soldiers aren't paid much, so their deaths aren't compensated by much. A Wall Street stockbroker gets paid a shitload, so his wife gets a shitload when he dies.

Is this just? No. Is it the free market that we all worship most of the time? Yes.

[RedImperator]

Oooh...now I've got images of Jon Corzine and Frank Lautenberg surviving on cat food and Meals on Wheels. It gives me a happy tingle.

[Joe]

Where does the money for the 9/11 victims come from? Government or elsewhere?

[Joe]

Oooh...now I've got images of Jon Corzine and Frank Lautenberg surviving on cat food and Meals on Wheels. It gives me a happy tingle.

Hell, if I was in charge they'd get 400 bucks a year and have to go get real jobs when they run out of cash.

[RedImperator]

Oooh...now I've got images of Jon Corzine and Frank Lautenberg surviving on cat food and Meals on Wheels. It gives me a happy tingle.

Hell, if I was in charge they'd get 400 bucks a year and have to go get real jobs when they run out of cash.

If I were in charge, I'd hang them by their thumbs from the top of Barnegeat Light, but I'll settle for the cat food fantasy.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Holy shit... I actually agree with Rush Limbaugh on something... I will have to look into the 'problems'with social security, but hell. This whole thing is awfully hypocritical...

[Enforcer Talen]

I think Ill stop off as congressmen for a term. that kind of pension I like.

[Hamel]

Someone please edit it so I can read it without losing my nuts.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Oy...

My sister still has medical bills resulting from her father's exposure to certain chemicals back during Vietnam, can she ask Dow for a couple mil?

[otter]

Oy...

My sister still has medical bills resulting from her father's exposure to certain chemicals back during Vietnam, can she ask Dow for a couple mil?

Hmmm...figure the odds on that happening. Our glorious polititians saw fit to pay compensation to jews from the holocast ( which I dont see a problem with) pay millions to Cuban exiles for their loss when Castro shot down their planes, millions to an exile for being stupid enough to marry a Cuban spy......but telling a victim and survivor of the bataan death march "Tough shit" you aint getting a dime for your slave labor!


If its one thing I'm a staunch supporter of, its helping our veterans get the just compensation they deserve!