Why does music suck so much right now?

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-08-11 03:44pm

No wonder I still like music from a few decades ago.

Most of the stuff I listen to now is on independant labels. And if I want artificial, I'll go *listen*

to disco...

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2003-08-11 04:14pm

I will agree that the vast majority of "popular" music played today is pure, unadulterated crap. But I must dissent with the majority of posters here, and state my opinion that The Eminem Show is the real deal. The guy is funny, he's out there, and he is actually pretty talented. I don't usually listen to rap, but I do enjoy his stuff.

I think there's a general rule of thumb that a band needs to be dead for at least ten years before it's worth paying attention to. If the music still endures after that much time, it's probably because it's good shit. But then again if your band's name starts with "Led" and ends with "Zeppelin", I don't think you need to worry about the rules of thumb. All you have to do is just bask in your own greatness....

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-08-11 04:47pm

I kinda disagree with the general opinion here. I think music these days is still as good as it's ever been, it's just that the good stuff is harder to find with all the garbage crowding the airwaves and MTV. The mediocre stuff is heavily promoted and played and becomes wildly popular while most of the good stuff falls between the cracks. It's unfortunate but it happens.

Let's take a look at some of last year's CD releases, Avril Lavigne's "Let Go", Shania Twain's "Up", Sarah Slean's "Nightbugs", and Tori Amos's "Scarlet's Walk". The first 2 were full out record company promotion deals, heavy radio airplay, constantly on MTV, newspaper & magazine ads everywhere, and even ads on bus shelters. The music, well, it sucked. Mediocre poppy crap that makes me cringe, but hey, who cares, because they sold millions of CD's and made some record company people pretty damn rich.

The last 2 albums were released without any fanfare, no radio play, Sarah had a video that got played a couple times on MuchMusic but that was it. They didn't even put the albums on the "new releases" rack at the local record store. Both of them are among the best albums I have, musically solid and not a single weak song on the albums. In a way it's good since not too many people know about them and that helps to keep concert ticket prices down, but still, it ain't right.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-11 04:49pm

So..

If.Drunken Hobo > Eminem.&&.Eminem > You:
(Drunken Hobo > You);

... Uh.. No.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-11 04:50pm

Who made that DareDevil song? The one with the lady that sounds soft and sort of etheral but then goes into seeming "hard rock" at points, then back again?

I actually kinda liked it. One of the few lyrical songs I really do like, up there with "Lose Yourself" and "Gangsta's Paradise" (hm, 2/3s of it is rap...ah, fuck it, I like it).

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-08-11 04:54pm

RogueIce wrote:Who made that DareDevil song? The one with the lady that sounds soft and sort of etheral but then goes into seeming "hard rock" at points, then back again?

Evanescence - "Bring Me to Life". It was good until the damn radio stations started playing it 10 times a day every day.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-11 05:03pm

The original Bring Me To Life kicked ass. They remixed it and added that fucking SHIT 'nurock' mixed with hip hop. its vomit inducing. Thats what happens, I suppose, when execs get their hands on music.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-08-11 06:27pm

kojikun wrote:So..

If.Drunken Hobo > Eminem.&&.Eminem > You:
(Drunken Hobo > You);

... Uh.. No.

Well, who does "you" refer to?

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-08-11 08:20pm

Increased monopolisation of the media industry leads inevitably to increased homoginisation of all its forms, especially music, and the consequent decline in diversity and quality which must follow.

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-08-11 08:42pm

I like the pop music of today, i like the pop music of yesterday. Its all the same, they're still just notes that sound interesting together

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-08-11 10:41pm

Nowadays most of the stuff I listen to comprises of 60's through to 80's rock, and lot's of Weird Al. I also have a lot of theme music.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-08-11 11:03pm

We have hit the bottom of the barrel. In fact, we've gone below the bottom of the barrel. We're making new barrels and stacking them on top of each other

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-11 11:16pm

Patrick Degan wrote:Increased monopolisation of the media industry leads inevitably to
increased homoginisation of all its forms, especially music, and the
consequent decline in diversity and quality which must follow.

I think the BBC actually leaves itself out of the artist's work. They have free net radio, atleast.

Lt. Dan · Post by **Lt. Dan** » 2003-08-12 12:17am

All the music co. are shot gunning it. Because one blonde singer works, there are ten more right after her. Because 12 and 13 year old girls like the *shuders* "punk", there are ten more after them. Like the "Ataris" and the countless more "punk bands" that suck wind. I hate the music that is out now. I'm just happy they have good music on the radio. Too bad it's only one station. Nothing would make me happier then to see them lined up and shot. Death to the pop punks!

Lt. Dan · Post by **Lt. Dan** » 2003-08-12 12:19am

HemlockGrey wrote:We have hit the bottom of the barrel. In fact, we've gone below the bottom of the barrel. We're making new barrels and stacking them on top of each other

How very true. Sad but true.(<---Hehe Metallica)

Lt. Dan · Post by **Lt. Dan** » 2003-08-12 12:20am

aerius wrote:
RogueIce wrote:Who made that DareDevil song? The one with the lady that sounds soft and sort of etheral but then goes into seeming "hard rock" at points, then back again?
Evanescence - "Bring Me to Life". It was good until the damn radio stations started playing it 10 times a day every day.

Amen.

Drewcifer · Post by **Drewcifer** » 2003-08-12 02:51am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:I am starting to believe the rule "Never buy a CD from a band whose members are all still living."

lol!

Hmm sounds like time to buy some Clash...

Start with London Calling, one of the greatest rock and roll records ever made.

aerius wrote:I kinda disagree with the general opinion here. I think music these days is still as good as it's ever been, it's just that the good stuff is harder to find with all the garbage crowding the airwaves and MTV. The mediocre stuff is heavily promoted and played and becomes wildly popular while most of the good stuff falls between the cracks. It's unfortunate but it happens.

I agree. There's still tons of great music coming out, you just have to look for it a little harder. Unfortunately, the recent conglomeration of American radio into fewer hands has vastly decresed the quality of commercial radio; playlists are often programmed for 200 stations at once. heh I think every major city in the US now has a "The Fox Classic Rock" station...

Anyhow, to find good new music, check out public or college radio. Too, if you find an independant band that you like, check out the entire catalog of the record label the band is on. Most small labels tend to sign very similar acts, so if like one band, you'll most likely enjoy other bands on the same label. Also, get involved in the local music scene. Support Live Music!

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-08-12 02:58am

Coldplay.

A jewel in the middle of a field of garbage.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-08-12 03:43am

kojikun wrote:The original Bring Me To Life kicked ass. They remixed it and added that fucking SHIT 'nurock' mixed with hip hop. its vomit inducing. Thats what happens, I suppose, when execs get their hands on music.

So you mean there's a different version of "Bring me to Life" that doesn't have all the "rock" stuff?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-08-12 03:46am

Shinova wrote:Coldplay.

A jewel in the middle of a field of garbage.

I've heard some of them, and they are rather good for current music.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-08-12 04:38am

Dalton wrote:
Shinova wrote:Coldplay.

A jewel in the middle of a field of garbage.
I've heard some of them, and they are rather good for current music.

I bought the 1st coldplay album. What a shower of depressing bastards. I made it in 4 songs before i had the knife in my hands. I had to throw the CD away, it was trying to kill me.

In a way i blame Nirvana for a lot of the decline of Rock and Metal. Too many bands from now grew up idolising Nirvana and ended up poor Nirvana clones.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-08-12 04:40am

Lord Pounder wrote: I bought the 1st coldplay album. What a shower of depressing bastards. I made it in 4 songs before i had the knife in my hands. I had to throw the CD away, it was trying to kill me.

Try samples of their second album, A Rush of Blood to the Head. Or get some MP3s.

Just a suggestion.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-08-12 04:59am

Lt. Dan wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:We have hit the bottom of the barrel. In fact, we've gone below the bottom of the barrel. We're making new barrels and stacking them on top of each other
How very true. Sad but true.(<---Hehe Metallica)

Kill 'em all.

Zed Snardbody · Post by **Zed Snardbody** » 2003-08-12 08:50am

MTV really is to blame, there is so much good stuff out there but is excluded because its not rap, or made by chick with huge tits. I can't stand MTV. It all rap, sorry, R&B all the time. Now I don't want to sound like a racist, but the shit is all the same. All the songs revolve around their expensive shit, their bitches, and money. If I wanted to hear about that kind of stuff, I would read fortune.

So many good artist get ignored, I'd like to name a few.

Vanessa Carlton. For some reason the only songs that made it to video are the ones that don't seem to reflect the rest of her style. Her other works are beautiful, though a tad dark.

Cake. What can I say, its odd, but its well done.

Evanescence. Amy Lee has the voice of a God. I can't recommend their music enough. Support them! Buy the CD. Its moderately priced. "My Immortal" is one of the best ballads I've heard in a long time. Also "You" is excelent, its a shame its not commercialy released, it was put out on the net by accident. Ms. Lee requested that it stoped being shared as it was a personal song and asked that coppies be deleted, but I personaly couldn't bare to part with it.

Michelle Branch. Very Commercial, but she does produce some very good music. Definitely worth a listen.

The Red Elvises. 50's style rock band from Siberia with Russian accents.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-08-12 09:00am

Again, this is why I mainly go with anime and video game music and stuff from OverClocked ReMix. Ain't nothing gone wrong with those.