Trys to buy 9 year old on internet, gets 3 years.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-08-12 03:26am

Two weeks before his arrest he had been due to spend a week working at a primary school to gain work experience, but this was cancelled by the school after they were contacted by police.

When his student accommodation was searched police discovered a safe containing leg shackles, handcuffs, an extending police baton, a kitchen knife and a roll of tape, Miss Wilding told the court.

Police video shows the moment a replica handgun was found in Sadowski's waistband

They also found several newspaper articles about paedophiles, child abductions and murders.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-08-12 03:27am

what no edit button?
Someone fix the title for me!

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-08-12 03:39am

Page not found.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-08-12 03:44am

Lock this piece of shit up. From http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 99,00.html

Trainee teacher jailed after US paedophile tip-off

Judge voices concern as man who tried to procure 10-year-old on internet escapes with 18 month sentence and no listing as sex offender

Gerard Seenan and Andrew Clennell
Tuesday August 12, 2003
The Guardian

A trainee teacher was sentenced to three years in prison yesterday after he was caught by undercover police attempting to procure a young girl for sex using a website.
Luke Sadowski, 19, was apprehended after a police operation following a tip-off from the US.

He had contacted a website the US authorities had set up to detect paedophiles.

Using the pseudonym Ben Smith, Sadowski contacted the bogus US website and asked the price he would have to pay to secure for sex a white girl aged around 10. US agents contacted Scotland Yard's paedophile unit, which set up a sting operation.

Sadowski told people whom he thought were the website's UK agents - they were police officers - that he wanted the girl to wear pyjamas; he would supply a cuddly toy.

Undercover officers met Sadowski at Victoria station, in central London, and videoed him as they took a cab to a hotel for the rendezvous. There he was arrested and charged with attempting to incite another to procure a child for sex.

He admitted the offence at Southwark crown court yesterday, for which he was sentenced to 18 months' jail. He pleaded guilty to a second offence of possessing an imitation handgun, and received a further 18 months, to be served consecutively. Under current legislation, Sadowski could only be sentenced to a maximum of two years in prison for the sex offence.

Under changes to the Sexual Offences Act still before parliament, anyone charged with a similar offence would face up to 14 years in prison.

The judge, Gerald Gordon, said he was concerned that Sadowski was a danger to women. But the nature of his crime means he will not go on the sex offenders register.

When police searched Sadowski's student accommoda tion in Canterbury, Kent, they discovered a safe containing leg shackles, handcuffs, an extending police baton, a kitchen knife and roll of tape.

Sadowski, from Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire, also had newspaper cuttings on the murder of 13-year-old Amanda Dowler. He had set up a memorial site on his computer for the murdered child Sarah Payne and was going to create one for the two girls murdered last year in Soham, the court heard.

When Sadowski was arrested at the hotel, he was found to have with him a condom and the cuddly toy.

He had told his contact over the internet that he expected to pay around £200 a day. He made it clear he wanted to be alone with the girl, and told the undercover officer: "I am not going to mistreat her, not too much, if you know what I mean."

Sadowski's defence counsel, Emma Edham said her client, a virgin, had been bullied at school and had no friends. "This has been a rude awakening for an immature 19-year-old," she said.

Judge Gordon told Sadowski that reports on him indicated "elements of fantasy and bravado", but that if he tried to benefit from the sentence "fears for the future may turn out to be unfounded".

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-08-12 04:22am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Page not found.

Hmm. Works great for me.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-08-12 05:38am

innerbrat wrote: Hmm. Works great for me.

It does work now, so I guess it was on my end.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-12 05:45am

Fucking bastards like that really make me want to be violent....

Good thing I can't find them.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-08-12 12:03pm

Using the pseudonym Ben Smith, Sadowski contacted the bogus US website and asked the price he would have to pay to secure for sex a white girl aged around 10. US agents contacted Scotland Yard's paedophile unit, which set up a sting operation.

10 years old? WTF is wrong with this sick bastard?

Sadowski told people whom he thought were the website's UK agents - they were police officers - that he wanted the girl to wear pyjamas; he would supply a cuddly toy.

That just continues to make him creepier and creepier.

It's clear from the article that this "kid" has some series emotional and mental problems. Is 3 years in prison going to change that? I would be concerned about him when he gets out unless he shows some major progress while in prison.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-08-12 12:12pm

I love his attorneys spin on this bastard - he was abused as a child, he had no friends, he was an immature 19yr old. Give me a fucking break, when does it stop being everyone else's fault and start being your own?How immature do you have to be to be turned on by fucking a 10yr old in pajamas??!

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-08-12 12:15pm

Tsyroc wrote:It's clear from the article that this "kid" has some series emotional and mental problems. Is 3 years in prison going to change that? I would be concerned about him when he gets out unless he shows some major progress while in prison.

Thing is, paedophilia, as a fetish, is not something one can help (NB I'm not defending it, I think it's sick) and a fetsih so digusting and socially imoral probably coutns as a mentla disorder, So 3 years in prison is gonna do nothing except maybe deter him from trying it again, but I doubt it.
He needs psychiatric care, IF it can be 'cured' (which I'm not sure it can) but as the law currently stands, the fact that he clearly is a paedophile doesn't really deter from the fact that he actually hasn't committed very major crimes - there was no 9 year old girl, and it wasn't a real gun.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-08-12 12:46pm

Well, one can agree that he probably deserves to be let out, considering the circumstances, but I add the proviso of "not before they administer depo-provera."

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-12 12:54pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Well, one can agree that he probably deserves to be let out, considering the circumstances, but I add the proviso of "not before they administer depo-provera."

Or better still just take a set of bolt cutters to his balls.

Sex offenders have an astronomical repeat rate and in all likelihood this sicko will try again. He's a danger to society and three years doesn't have a hope of changing his like. If anything I'd wager he thinks got off easy. At the very least he ought to be listed as a sex offender to protect the community into which he's released.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-08-12 12:57pm

Stormbringer wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Well, one can agree that he probably deserves to be let out, considering the circumstances, but I add the proviso of "not before they administer depo-provera."
Or better still just take a set of bolt cutters to his balls.

Sex offenders have an astronomical repeat rate and in all likelihood this sicko will try again. He's a danger to society and three years doesn't have a hope of changing his like. If anything I'd wager he thinks got off easy. At the very least he ought to be listed as a sex offender to protect the community into which he's released.

IIRC on the news it said this guy will be on the sex offenders' register for the rest of his life.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-08-12 12:58pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Well, one can agree that he probably deserves to be let out, considering the circumstances, but I add the proviso of "not before they administer depo-provera."

Chemically "castrating" him?

IIRC depo-provera is used in women as a birth control shot but I may be incorrect.

I think he'd be safer that way.

You know. One of the other things that creeps me out is the shackles and duct tape. It's not just that he's attracted to children it's that in some sense he absolutely knows that he is going to have to force/restrain them, but he continues anyway. To me that's more than him just being attracted to children, that means he also planned to be a rapist. A rapist of children.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-08-12 01:01pm

Stravo wrote:I love his attorneys spin on this bastard - he was abused as a child, he had no friends, he was an immature 19yr old. Give me a fucking break, when does it stop being everyone else's fault and start being your own?How immature do you have to be to be turned on by fucking a 10yr old in pajamas??!

Its always the same fucking excuse paedophiles come up with to justify their deviance....(boohoo its not my fault i was raped as a child)bullshit.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-12 01:08pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:IIRC on the news it said this guy will be on the sex offenders' register for the rest of his life.

Not according to that article. I hope it's wrong but given the light sentence I rather doubt it.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-08-12 01:18pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Crazy_Vasey wrote:IIRC on the news it said this guy will be on the sex offenders' register for the rest of his life.
Not according to that article. I hope it's wrong but given the light sentence I rather doubt it.

You're right. It must have been some other sex-offender on the news. There's so many of them now...

Tosho · Post by **Tosho** » 2003-08-12 06:44pm

How about this for a punishment, his balls+rusty dull axe.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-08-12 07:23pm

Better punishment

Strap him down spread eagle on a cold steel table, cover his groin and ass in sugar, and then lower him ass first into a tank of red fire ants

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-12 08:53pm

Don't these people have any self control? Christ, why can't they just keep their fantasies in their HEADS?

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-08-12 09:20pm

What, my punishement, or the pediophile?

If both, I resent being grouped with a pediophile.

At least put me a level about them

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2003-08-12 09:20pm

Just shoot him in the back of the head. He doesn't deserve any flashy punishments.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-08-13 03:15am

Tsyroc wrote:IIRC depo-provera is used in women as a birth control shot but I may be incorrect.

If you are, than so's the nurse who's been jabbing the stuff inot me for two years.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-08-13 07:11am

Castration in these cases should not be considered cruel or unusual punishment, cruel and unusual is what they do to their victims to begin with.

They lead normal lives after serving their time save for the no sex, too fucking bad, you should have found a consenting adult.

Post by **Coyote** » 2003-08-13 02:14pm

The fact that these curs usually end up being the 'comfort women' of the local prison population is a fairly fitting punishment, I think. And the guards know about it and tend to look the other way from what I understand.....