Grand Admiral Grant versus Thrawn

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-08-13 01:24pm

Let's say that the New Republic did approach Grand Admiral Grant and ask him for his help to defeat Thrawn. Unlikely due to the security risk, but let's say they were getting real desperate about the time right before the Bilbringi attack (and assuming the attack on Wayland did not happen yet and Thrawn wasn't about to die).

Who would win?

On the one hand you have Grant and Bel Iblis with the resources and fleets of the New Republic (barring the infamous Rebel luck and Luke and company save the day). On the other hand you have Thrawn with Wayland and C'boath is still imprisoned.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2003-08-13 10:39pm

Trytostaydead wrote:Let's say that the New Republic did approach Grand Admiral Grant and ask him for his help to defeat Thrawn. Unlikely due to the security risk, but let's say they were getting real desperate about the time right before the Bilbringi attack (and assuming the attack on Wayland did not happen yet and Thrawn wasn't about to die).

Who would win?

On the one hand you have Grant and Bel Iblis with the resources and fleets of the New Republic (barring the infamous Rebel luck and Luke and company save the day). On the other hand you have Thrawn with Wayland and C'boath is still imprisoned.

Grant? Who's he?!

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-08-13 11:19pm

The last Grand Admiral. A man loyal to the Empire with no aspirations for a power base.

He strikes me as an unimmaginative man who would be overcome by Thrawn's tactics.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-08-13 11:32pm

Might not be enough. We already have Ackbar on the NR side, who is very competent at his job. Do we really need GADM Grant?

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2003-08-14 02:53am

If not for Karrde´s smugglers, a Noghri and Joorus C´Baoth sabotaging the Mount Tantiss-facility Ackbar wouldn´t have won at Bilbringi.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-08-14 03:45am

Wouldn't Grant have some measure of an idea as to how Thrawn would operate though? I mean, ambitious or not, you need to know your friends far better than your enemies.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-08-14 03:59am

I don't know if he even knew of Thrawn's existence. The 13th Admiral was kinda a secret.

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2003-08-14 08:23am

VS.

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEEE !!!!

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-08-14 09:02am

thrawn kind of reminds me of kirk in that picture.

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2003-08-14 09:36am

And somehow he seems to be very pissed of.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-08-14 12:45pm

You know, for some reason when I think I turn 40 I'll look like an Asian version of Thrawn, lol.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-08-14 12:50pm

Thrawn doesn't have pupils.

Anyhow Thrawn would own Grant in battle. After the fall of the Emperor, Grant joined the Penestar Alligntment and did nothing for the remainder of his service to the Empire. Then he defected.

Doesn't sound too brilliant now does he?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-14 12:51pm

Thrawn reminds me more of this guy:

Those are cool pics, Dorius, where'd you get them?

Publius · Post by **Publius** » 2003-08-14 01:13pm

Grand Admiral Grant stood aloof, and his peers predicted he would be the first to perish in the post-Endor bloodbath. In the end, he outlived them all, earning the appellation "the last grand admiral."

As a Tapani noble, Grant harbored an aristocrat's disdain for what he called the "working classes" -- chiefly aliens and droids. Though he won a score of victories against the Rebel Alliance, Grant didn't curry favor with moffs. When the Battle of Endor turned the galaxy upside down, he was therefore the only grand admiral with no power base.

Grant sought sanctuary in the Imperial breakaway kingdom known as the Pentastar Alignment and watched the other grand admirals destroy each other. Two years after Endor, Grant defected to the New Republic, agreeing to give up Imperial military secrets for prosecutorial immunity.

In comfortable retirement on the beaches of Rathalay, the "last grand admiral" watched with interest as Grand Admiral Thrawn returned to menace the galaxy. He could crush that usurping alien, Grant thought to himself. But no one ever called.

-- from "Who's Who: Imperial Grand Admirals", by Daniel Wallace and Abel Peña, Star Wars Insider issue 66

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2003-08-14 01:46pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:Thrawn reminds me more of this guy:

*SNIP*

Those are cool pics, Dorius, where'd you get them?

Uhhh... Commander Cain !!!

From here !

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-08-16 02:17pm

Do not quote pictures.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-16 03:25pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Thrawn doesn't have pupils.

Since when?

He does in that picture at least.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-08-16 07:45pm

RogueIce wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Thrawn doesn't have pupils.
Since when?

He doesn't on the covers of HttE or DFR. He doesn't in the Thrawn comics. They don't in any interpritation from the Essential Guides, and neither does the Chiss on the cover of Zahn's up and coming post-NJO novel. Clearly, the artist made a mistake.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-08-16 08:17pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
RogueIce wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Thrawn doesn't have pupils.
Since when?
He doesn't on the covers of HttE or DFR. He doesn't in the Thrawn comics. They don't in any interpritation from the Essential Guides, and neither does the Chiss on the cover of Zahn's up and coming post-NJO novel. Clearly, the artist made a mistake.

Ah well. 2 seconds in MSPaint can fix that.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-16 09:31pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:He doesn't on the covers of HttE or DFR. He doesn't in the Thrawn comics. They don't in any interpritation from the Essential Guides, and neither does the Chiss on the cover of Zahn's up and coming post-NJO novel. Clearly, the artist made a mistake.

Maybe he just put them in to look cool? Or maybe when his eyes aren't glowing they show up?

Ah Hell, what am I debating for? It's not exactly important.

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