Should Commonwealth Nations Become Fully Independant?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-16 11:26pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Exactly which countries are in the Commonwealth? I've heard Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and India(?)...

Quite a lot, acutally.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-16 11:47pm

They, Including NZ, are already independent..read our constituion you numpty

{our constituion is spread over about4 or more bits of statute.}

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-08-16 11:57pm

There are levels of independance, while we have virtually nothing to do with Britian the Queen is still officially our HoS isn't she?

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 12:02am

RogueIce wrote:
kojikun wrote:I was unaware that the queen had any official power in coutnries other then Britain..
I heard the story of one time she dismissed a Canadian/Aussie/Sub-Aussie...er, New Zealand ( ) PM. They evidently forgot she could do that. I think they changed their constitution or whatever to prevent it.

What happned is this. The Australian Govenor General dissmissed the Whitlam Government after the Aussie Senate refused to pass a budget.
The Govenor General is legally entitled to do this, and still is.
What caused the problems is that the GG normally acts on the advise of the government of the day, and the Whitlam government was a popular government. It also raised the question of should the Senate havethe right to stop monies bill's?

No laws were, or have been changed that I know of as a result of this.

BTW, call us sub aussies again, and I will crawl down the phone line and cut your nuts of.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-08-17 12:04am

Sub-aussies would be the Tasmanians, right?

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 12:10am

Spyder wrote:There are levels of independance, while we have virtually nothing to do with Britian the Queen is still officially our HoS isn't she?

*sigh*

NZ became a independent kingdom in 1947 when we signed the 1931 statue of Westminster. Aussie and Canada signed, I beleive in 1931.
We have a Monarch as HoS, and that monarch is the British monarch. That we have the British monarch does not make us in any way subserviant to Britain as both nations laws do not allow for this.

The commonweath is, at its most basic level, the British Empire old boys club. The Queen is the club chairwoman.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 12:11am

HemlockGrey wrote:Sub-aussies would be the Tasmanians, right?

correct

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 12:17am

kojikun wrote:I was unaware that the queen had any official power in coutnries other then Britain..

The Queen is HoS of a number of independent Kingdoms, such as Aussie,Canada and NZ. She is represented by Governor Generals, who are localy appointed and they have some reserve powers but are for all intents and purposes cerimonial. Legally the Queen and her representave do have a lot of power, but it is only exercized on the advice of the government of the day. This is the Westminster concept of responsible government and Constitional Monarchy.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-08-17 12:24am

Stuart Mackey wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:Sub-aussies would be the Tasmanians, right?
correct

Says the guy whose countries biggest reputation is for sheep shagging.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 12:27am

Gandalf wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:Sub-aussies would be the Tasmanians, right?
correct
Says the guy whose countries biggest reputation is for sheep shagging.

Hardly a surprising comment from a guy who's biggest reputation is for criminal tendancies

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 12:30am

Stuart Mackey wrote:
Gandalf wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote: correct
Says the guy whose countries biggest reputation is for sheep shagging.
Hardly a surprising comment from a guy who's biggest reputation is for criminal tendancies

Sorry, a guy whos countries biggest reputaion is for criminal tendancies...

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-08-17 12:44am

Stuart Mackey wrote:
Gandalf wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote: correct
Says the guy whose countries biggest reputation is for sheep shagging.
Hardly a surprising comment from a guy who's biggest reputation is for criminal tendancies

We were that good they needed a bloody huge island for us. What'd Britain give you, something the size of my backyard and a few sheep for company.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-17 12:52am

*points out to both of them that the US would plaster them in a fight anyway, as would probably the UK if they got down that far*

And the only reason the Aussies are treated with any respect is because of the beautiful women and the nude beaches (which are not overrun with sheep). NZ is Sub-Aussie because, well, it's a smaller, wannabe Aussie, and it also happens to be a tad south of the northernmost parts of Australia anyway.

And you both sit on the bottom of the world. The only place further away from everyone important is Antarctica.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 01:02am

Gandalf wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:
Gandalf wrote: Says the guy whose countries biggest reputation is for sheep shagging.
Hardly a surprising comment from a guy who's biggest reputation is for criminal tendancies
We were that good they needed a bloody huge island for us.

Theyt assumed that the climate would kill you, they fucked up and like rabbits you became a pestilance on the land. Stupid Poms.

What'd Britain give you, something the size of my backyard and a few sheep for company.

They sent the respectable people here beacause it is a better version of the British isles, naturally we brought our food with us.
NZ, being the size of Britian, was expected to dominate West island as Britian dominated Europe..which we soon will

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 01:08am

RogueIce wrote:*points out to both of them that the US would plaster them in a fight anyway, as would probably the UK if they got down that far*

Wrong on both counts, we are not a bunch of arabs.

And the only reason the Aussies are treated with any respect is because of the beautiful women and the nude beaches (which are not overrun with sheep).

Never heard a Aussie woman talk have you?

trust me, you will change you mind if you ever go there *shudders* The ignorance alone is staggering.

NZ is Sub-Aussie because, well, it's a smaller, wannabe Aussie, and it also happens to be a tad south of the northernmost parts of Australia anyway.

Wannabe Aussie? fuck off, we have no ambition to be a bunch of loud mouth, inbred, ignorant fools. As you can see they have every ambition of being a wannabe US

And you both sit on the bottom of the world. The only place further away from everyone important is Antarctica.

so?

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-17 01:11am

Stuart Mackey wrote:Wrong on both counts, we are not a bunch of arabs.

Whatever you say...

*unleashes US nuclear arsenal upon thee*

Never heard a Aussie woman talk have you? trust me, you will change you mind if you ever go there *shudders* The ignorance alone is staggering.

If we spent a lot of time around the Aussie women on the nude beaches, I don't think talking with them would be high on the priority list.

Wannabe Aussie? fuck off, we have no ambition to be a bunch of loud mouth, inbred, ignorant fools. As you can see they have every ambition of being a wannabe US

Not the US as a whole...just Georgia and Alabama.

so?

So, you're so far away, nobody really gives a damn about you.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-17 01:22am

RogueIce wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:Wrong on both counts, we are not a bunch of arabs.
Whatever you say...

*unleashes US nuclear arsenal upon thee*

We would take that as a compliment..your conventional forces are so incompetent you need nukes to defeat an army of less than 8000 people?
Stupid Americans

Never heard a Aussie woman talk have you? trust me, you will change you mind if you ever go there *shudders* The ignorance alone is staggering.

If we spent a lot of time around the Aussie women on the nude beaches, I don't think talking with them would be high on the priority list.

Blocking your ears would though. not that they wopuld look at a bunch of obese American males

Wannabe Aussie? fuck off, we have no ambition to be a bunch of loud mouth, inbred, ignorant fools. As you can see they have every ambition of being a wannabe US

Not the US as a whole...just Georgia and Alabama.

well yes the US as a whole, from our experience, hicks, the lot of you

so?

So, you're so far away, nobody really gives a damn about you.

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Which is why no one hates us..well NZ at any rate

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-08-17 03:59am

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: I just want you to know that the attack was not directed at Australia.

Howard: Aww, come on, we're just like America! You know it was for us.

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Well no, it was mainly directed at the Jews that were...

Howard: I eat swine flesh daily.

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Well everyone has their little vices, but I can't hate you for that.

Howard: Fuck Islam! Fuck bin Laden and Fuck you!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: That's not too nice...

Howard: You will all die at the hands of my American masters! All of you!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Look, if you're trying to get included in the Jihad I can make a couple of calls and see what I can do.

Howard: About bloody time!

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-08-17 04:01pm

My thoughts: Your money would look much nicer if it was green and had George Washington on it

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-08-17 06:58pm

Spyder wrote:Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: I just want you to know that the attack was not directed at Australia.

Howard: Aww, come on, we're just like America! You know it was for us.

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Well no, it was mainly directed at the Jews that were...

Howard: I eat swine flesh daily.

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Well everyone has their little vices, but I can't hate you for that.

Howard: Fuck Islam! Fuck bin Laden and Fuck you!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: That's not too nice...

Howard: You will all die at the hands of my American masters! All of you!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Look, if you're trying to get included in the Jihad I can make a couple of calls and see what I can do.

Howard: About bloody time!

Oh God, I fell out of my chair in laughter...

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-08-17 11:24pm

Spyder wrote:Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: I just want you to know that the attack was not directed at Australia.

Howard: Aww, come on, we're just like America! You know it was for us.

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Well no, it was mainly directed at the Jews that were...

Howard: I eat swine flesh daily.

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Well everyone has their little vices, but I can't hate you for that.

Howard: Fuck Islam! Fuck bin Laden and Fuck you!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: That's not too nice...

Howard: You will all die at the hands of my American masters! All of you!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Look, if you're trying to get included in the Jihad I can make a couple of calls and see what I can do.

Howard: About bloody time!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Hey, we made those calls, but nobody felt like taking the time to actually go down to your country. It's not important enough. Sorry, no jihad for you.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-08-18 01:47am

RogueIce wrote:
Spyder wrote:Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: I just want you to know that the attack was not directed at Australia.

Howard: Aww, come on, we're just like America! You know it was for us.

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Well no, it was mainly directed at the Jews that were...

Howard: I eat swine flesh daily.

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Well everyone has their little vices, but I can't hate you for that.

Howard: Fuck Islam! Fuck bin Laden and Fuck you!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: That's not too nice...

Howard: You will all die at the hands of my American masters! All of you!

Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Look, if you're trying to get included in the Jihad I can make a couple of calls and see what I can do.

Howard: About bloody time!
Amrozi bin Nurhasyim: Hey, we made those calls, but nobody felt like taking the time to actually go down to your country. It's not important enough. Sorry, no jihad for you.

Ouch, my sides. They hurt from the laughter.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-08-18 02:02am

I voted 'yes' on the referendum, but wasn't overly concerned about it since either way it was just a rubber stamp and totally meaningless.

That was until I went to the UK, and had to wait 2hrs, and play 20 questions at customs when traveling under my Australian Passport, had I been traveling with my Greek/EU passport things would have been much quicker.

You could imagine how pissed off that I was, I mean she's our HoS!

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-08-18 07:55am

Crown wrote:snip

You could imagine how pissed off that I was, I mean she's our HoS!

Ahhh, but you are an Australain on a Aussie passport, so you are from a differnt, independent, Kingdom..hence the customs merry-go-round.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-08-18 08:52am

Of course, if you guys all go under British rule again, you're automatically members of the European Union...

I wonder if Nigeria or some other African Commonwealth nation'll try that approach...

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Should Commonwealth Nations Become Fully Independant?

Should Commonwealth Nations become fully independant?