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Anatomy of a Shark bite

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Ho-ly CRAP! I haven't been this unnerved by something in a long while...seeing the scientific analysis of a shark bite...and the various tests run based on the information garnered from the video of the shark bite.

They ran one test that is really revealing: a bull shark, going 15mph can break bones with it's bite, which is no greater than a human's (our flesh is that soft).

Creepy stuff, but fun to learn...
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That's why i'm happy we have shark nets.
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Just one more reason to be happy about living in the desert. ^^;

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verilon wrote:Just one more reason to be happy about living in the desert. ^^;~ver
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Soontir C'boath wrote:
verilon wrote:Just one more reason to be happy about living in the desert. ^^;~ver
Wouldn't you have snakes and scorpies instead?~Jason
Depends on where in the desert. If you live in the city, like I do, you don't have to worry very much.

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the fun thing is you can see the Post Traumatic Stress syndrome on the victims face's as they watch the re-enactments.
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Once more we are shown just how physically inferior humans are. That was cool, though what they did with the water melons.
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I personally found those experiments to be rather beautiful...

Sharks, are the perfect aqutic predator, they have been around in one form or another for millions of years, and nature has refined them into the perfect kiling machine...
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Darth Yoshi wrote:Once more we are shown just how physically inferior humans are.
Yup...*uses one hand to pull a lever, rolling a pattern of depth charges onto the sharks*

Luckily we've got nice big creative brains
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:Once more we are shown just how physically inferior humans are.
Yup...*uses one hand to pull a lever, rolling a pattern of depth charges onto the sharks*

Luckily we've got nice big creative brains
yes creative brains that, if used correctly, can destroy every viable ecosystem on this planet.
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Majin Gojira wrote:the fun thing is you can see the Post Traumatic Stress syndrome on the victims face's as they watch the re-enactments.
You, are one sick bastard.
I really like that in a person. :D
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I'm glad I didn't see that. The local beach has no shortage of sharks both small and large.
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Darth Yoshi wrote:Once more we are shown just how physically inferior humans are.
Except for that sharks have evolved to live in water and humans haven't....
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:shock: Note to self stay on dry land avoid the ocean at all cost.
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Montcalm wrote::shock: Note to self stay on dry land avoid the ocean at all cost.
Note to self: put on chain-mail and dive in!!! :D
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Alyrium Denryle wrote: Note to self: put on chain-mail and dive in!!! :D
Note to all: Allow Alyrium to become a Darwin Award winner. Do not rescue from drowning. :P
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Montcalm wrote::shock: Note to self stay on dry land avoid the ocean at all cost.
Note to self: put on chain-mail and dive in!!! :D
Note to self: Get popcorn and watch Alyrium drown himself in said chain-mail. Or at least hope he does. :D
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Captain_Cyran wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Montcalm wrote::shock: Note to self stay on dry land avoid the ocean at all cost.
Note to self: put on chain-mail and dive in!!! :D
Note to self: Get popcorn and watch Alyrium drown himself in said chain-mail. Or at least hope he does. :D
They make shark resistant chain mail for divers, I believe that was what he is talking about. Note, however, I said shark resistant, not shark proof!
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Frank Hipper wrote:
Note to self: Get popcorn and watch Alyrium drown himself in said chain-mail. Or at least hope he does. :D
They make shark resistant chain mail for divers, I believe that was what he is talking about. Note, however, I said shark resistant, not shark proof!
Sounds like a good way to give the surgeons something besides shark teeth to dig out of you. Any shark with a bad enough bite to make you want chain mail is probably going to cut right through it anyway. Just cause they sell it doesnt mean it does more then jack shit.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:Note to self: Get popcorn and watch Alyrium drown himself in said chain-mail. Or at least hope he does. :D
They make shark resistant chain mail for divers, I believe that was what he is talking about. Note, however, I said shark resistant, not shark proof!
Sounds like a good way to give the surgeons something besides shark teeth to dig out of you. Any shark with a bad enough bite to make you want chain mail is probably going to cut right through it anyway. Just cause they sell it doesnt mean it does more then jack shit.
I've seen it being tested with sharks, it seemed resist pretty well. The woman got a few minor cuts, instead of having her arm de-fleshed.
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Man, I wish I watched that. I don't have cable or anything, but my girlfriend does. I was watching the begining of RoboShark (I think that's what it was), and the program said that great whites can learn 80 times (not percent) faster than cats! All of its hunting behavior is learned; it's not instinct.
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apocolypse wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:Once more we are shown just how physically inferior humans are.
Except for that sharks have evolved to live in water and humans haven't....
True, but there are plenty of land predators that outclass humans physically.

They named is "Bruce." Just like the mechanical shark from Jaws.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:
Note to self: Get popcorn and watch Alyrium drown himself in said chain-mail. Or at least hope he does. :D
They make shark resistant chain mail for divers, I believe that was what he is talking about. Note, however, I said shark resistant, not shark proof!
Sounds like a good way to give the surgeons something besides shark teeth to dig out of you. Any shark with a bad enough bite to make you want chain mail is probably going to cut right through it anyway. Just cause they sell it doesnt mean it does more then jack shit.
Chain mail is actually very effective against the smaller sharks, but against the larger sharks it's not the teeth that will kill you...it's the pressure of the bite.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:Once more we are shown just how physically inferior humans are.
Yup...*uses one hand to pull a lever, rolling a pattern of depth charges onto the sharks*

Luckily we've got nice big creative brains
yes creative brains that, if used correctly, can destroy every viable ecosystem on this planet.
That is something of an exaggeration. We can alter those ecosystems, but destroying them is far beyond our current capabilities. The energy requirement for destroying the global ecosystem hovers around 1 billion megatons.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: Yup...*uses one hand to pull a lever, rolling a pattern of depth charges onto the sharks*

Luckily we've got nice big creative brains
yes creative brains that, if used correctly, can destroy every viable ecosystem on this planet.
That is something of an exaggeration. We can alter those ecosystems, but destroying them is far beyond our current capabilities. The energy requirement for destroying the global ecosystem hovers around 1 billion megatons.
Using brute force, a smart person would salt the nukes with everything he had and detonate at will around the planet making as much fallout as possible.

It may not kill everything, life always finds a way to survive, but it'll be a big downer for the week on a global scale.
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