What makes it red?!

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-08-19 09:48pm

searches on the internbet yielded nothing....
I just bought a lighter, and it has some kind of ball-shaped metal thingy suspended in the middle right where the flame is...it makes the flame on the lighter BRIGHT red, not like your normal Gas-blue or even yellow..and it only makes the flame red when the ball thingy is heated up quite a bit (It's glowing hot) what IS that ball thingy made of?!

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-08-19 09:49pm

Some sort of heat-charged material?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-08-19 09:51pm

Probably a metal that burns red. Remember Chemistry lab? The only one I can recall offhand is Strontium, but that's probably not the onein question.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-08-19 09:53pm

Alas, my highschool in rednecksville, Tennessee did not posess (sp?) the needed components to make a red flame....wierd thing is, the metal does Burn up, it just cools back to a solid state, ready to turn the flame red again when summoned....

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-19 09:55pm

Nichrome wires will, for some reason, create a nice red flame, while not burning.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-08-19 09:57pm

kojikun wrote:Nichrome wires will, for some reason, create a nice red flame, while not burning.

Hmm. Well, there are different things that cause different lighters to burn different colors. A common one around here is the green lighters, though I have also seen blue, yellow, purple, orange, and red.

~ver

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2003-08-19 10:02pm

For me, I'm looking for a lighter that gives off a 6 inch flame that burns like an oil well on fire. I currently have one that is part of a switchblade but unfortunately the lighter won't hold it's load.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-19 10:03pm

Enigma wrote:For me, I'm looking for a lighter that gives off a 6 inch flame that burns like an oil well on fire. I currently have one that is part of a switchblade but unfortunately the lighter won't hold it's load.

Why wont it? Fuel consumption problems?

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2003-08-19 10:05pm

kojikun wrote:
Enigma wrote:For me, I'm looking for a lighter that gives off a 6 inch flame that burns like an oil well on fire. I currently have one that is part of a switchblade but unfortunately the lighter won't hold it's load.
Why wont it? Fuel consumption problems?

No. The fuel just leaks out. I've tried to find a decent replacement but there are no lighters that gives off a furious 6 inch or more flame.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-19 10:08pm

Enigma wrote:No. The fuel just leaks out. I've tried to find a decent replacement but there are no lighters that gives off a furious 6 inch or more flame.

Leaks out how?

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2003-08-19 10:13pm

kojikun wrote:
Enigma wrote:No. The fuel just leaks out. I've tried to find a decent replacement but there are no lighters that gives off a furious 6 inch or more flame.
Leaks out how?

After refueling the lighter suddenly goes cold for a couple of seconds.

It would work the first time after refueling but when I try to light it again, it goes dead. Even if I lit it for a second for the first time and then try again.... nothing.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-08-19 10:20pm

I saw some lighters at Walgreens that spit out a brilliant emerald green flame, not the blue-green Cu-spectrum flame or the yellowish Ba spectrum one. Molybdenum, maybe, or perhaps Boron (or both)?

BTW according to http://webmineral.com/help/FlameTest.shtml , Li can produce a bright red flame, but I'd think its melting point would be a bit low for torch lighters.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-08-19 10:27pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I saw some lighters at Walgreens that spit out a brilliant emerald green flame, not the blue-green Cu-spectrum flame or the yellowish Ba spectrum one. Molybdenum, maybe, or perhaps Boron (or both)?

BTW according to http://webmineral.com/help/FlameTest.shtml , Li can produce a bright red flame, but I'd think its melting point would be a bit low for torch lighters.

oooooo.......... i can use my meds to make red lighters..

~ver

J · Post by J » 2003-08-19 10:28pm

Enigma wrote:For me, I'm looking for a lighter that gives off a 6 inch flame that burns like an oil well on fire. I currently have one that is part of a switchblade but unfortunately the lighter won't hold it's load.

My BF taught me this one, he's kind've a pyro. Buy one of those disposable lighters that has a flame adjustment dial thingy. Carefully remove the metal cover so you can get to the dial. Note which way the dial goes to make the flame bigger, and keep turning it until the flame's big enough for you, then you put everything back together and you're happy.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-08-19 10:56pm

verilon wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I saw some lighters at Walgreens that spit out a brilliant emerald green flame, not the blue-green Cu-spectrum flame or the yellowish Ba spectrum one. Molybdenum, maybe, or perhaps Boron (or both)?

BTW according to http://webmineral.com/help/FlameTest.shtml , Li can produce a bright red flame, but I'd think its melting point would be a bit low for torch lighters.
oooooo.......... i can use my meds to make red lighters..

~ver

Bipolar?
And they give lithium carbonate, not lithium metal.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-08-19 10:58pm

jmac wrote:
Enigma wrote:For me, I'm looking for a lighter that gives off a 6 inch flame that burns like an oil well on fire. I currently have one that is part of a switchblade but unfortunately the lighter won't hold it's load.
My BF taught me this one, he's kind've a pyro. Buy one of those disposable lighters that has a flame adjustment dial thingy. Carefully remove the metal cover so you can get to the dial. Note which way the dial goes to make the flame bigger, and keep turning it until the flame's big enough for you, then you put everything back together and you're happy.

My uncle sells (or used to?) sell lighters with "safety devices" that could produce a 3 inch or so flame without disassembly.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-08-19 11:17pm

Pu-239 wrote:
verilon wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I saw some lighters at Walgreens that spit out a brilliant emerald green flame, not the blue-green Cu-spectrum flame or the yellowish Ba spectrum one. Molybdenum, maybe, or perhaps Boron (or both)?

BTW according to http://webmineral.com/help/FlameTest.shtml , Li can produce a bright red flame, but I'd think its melting point would be a bit low for torch lighters.
oooooo.......... i can use my meds to make red lighters..

~ver
Bipolar?
And they give lithium carbonate, not lithium metal.

I know.. and yes.

~ver

Lt. Dan · Post by **Lt. Dan** » 2003-08-20 10:40pm

jmac wrote:
Enigma wrote:For me, I'm looking for a lighter that gives off a 6 inch flame that burns like an oil well on fire. I currently have one that is part of a switchblade but unfortunately the lighter won't hold it's load.
My BF taught me this one, he's kind've a pyro. Buy one of those disposable lighters that has a flame adjustment dial thingy. Carefully remove the metal cover so you can get to the dial. Note which way the dial goes to make the flame bigger, and keep turning it until the flame's big enough for you, then you put everything back together and you're happy.

Hahahaha...That reminds me of a guy in freshman year. He did that but didn't stop. After a few turns, it shot off fuel with out pressing the button. He had fuel all over his arm and against all the advise of everyone there, he sparked it. Burnt all the hairs from his right arm. Funny to see him waving his arm around while in flames. BTW, we call that a crack-lighter.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2003-08-20 11:42pm

jmac wrote:
Enigma wrote:For me, I'm looking for a lighter that gives off a 6 inch flame that burns like an oil well on fire. I currently have one that is part of a switchblade but unfortunately the lighter won't hold it's load.
My BF taught me this one, he's kind've a pyro. Buy one of those disposable lighters that has a flame adjustment dial thingy. Carefully remove the metal cover so you can get to the dial. Note which way the dial goes to make the flame bigger, and keep turning it until the flame's big enough for you, then you put everything back together and you're happy.

But it won't burn as strong as mine did. The lighter I have had a flame that would burn furiously besides being 6 inches long.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2003-08-20 11:44pm

Lt. Dan wrote:<snip> BTW, we call that a crack-lighter.

That would explain why my lighter is part of the switchblade.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-08-20 11:46pm

Chardok wrote:Alas, my highschool in rednecksville, Tennessee did not posess (sp?) the needed components to make a red flame....wierd thing is, the metal does Burn up, it just cools back to a solid state, ready to turn the flame red again when summoned....

Heheh, funny, I went to the lone high school in the county with the smallest person per square mile population in the state of TN, yet we went over the spectrum of colors burned by different materials. Sounds like you just didn't pay attention...

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-08-20 11:49pm

No, seriously, We didn't even have a Chem lab. As an aside, I meant to say that the metal doesN'T burn up, just heats up, turns the flame red....blah blah blah

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-08-21 12:43am

jmac wrote:
Enigma wrote:For me, I'm looking for a lighter that gives off a 6 inch flame that burns like an oil well on fire. I currently have one that is part of a switchblade but unfortunately the lighter won't hold it's load.
My BF taught me this one, he's kind've a pyro. Buy one of those disposable lighters that has a flame adjustment dial thingy. Carefully remove the metal cover so you can get to the dial. Note which way the dial goes to make the flame bigger, and keep turning it until the flame's big enough for you, then you put everything back together and you're happy.

I know exactly what you're talking about. Those lighters are useful for much more than that, really. They're pieces of shit that blow out in the wind.

Be careful not to open the valve too much, by the way, or the butane will be released so fast it blows out its own flame.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-21 05:06am

FIRE mmm FIRE

erm time to go be manly and BBQ something...

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-08-21 11:16pm

If you want a super lighter so bad, use a spray paint can...