Nathan F wrote:
First off, you have proven nothing.
What should I be proving?
You have given one source on laws from a site that is known to have a heavy anti-gun bias.

is the content WRONG?
Nathan F wrote:
As to gun laws being unbanned, yes, but with restrictions. And you also still aren't reading the posts. We have answered your questions numerous times.
Vague hand waving noted and ignored.
Nathan F wrote:
YOU are the irrellevent one.
Wrong. I'm part of society. My voice is small, but it WILL be heard whether you like it or not.
By simply saying 'they are mean deadly weapons, I don't like them' you prove nothing.
Again. What am I meant to prove exactly?
And thank Heston I've been basing my stance on an actual RL attribute all fully automatic guns share! "continous rate of fire".
Give us facts like we have given you.
Continous rate of fire. Deadly weapon. No RL application.
By our facts, the one about only one crime being committed with a legal automatic weapon, proves that the criminals who might get their hands on an automatic weapon don't give jack shit about the laws in place as it is.
Show me how this proves your assertion.
By banning these from the public, you just deny the peaceful law abiding citizenry the usage of these firearms.
In all honesty, I couldn't give two shits. Where's the line Nathan? Where do you stop and say "ok, I think so and so is going a little too far". And when you place this line, show me how you drew it.
Tell me, does it get tiresome backpedalling like that? We have been saying that automatic weaponry and 'mean guns' shoudn't be banned all along! Yet we have said nothing about takign away all restrictions. Sure, I think it should be easier for the average law abiding citizen to be able to fire one of these, but I don't think they should be uncontrolled all the way.
I'm arguing the laws should remain AS IS. We should NOT make it easier. It's YOU who is calling for the relaxation of current law.
Again, you proove your ineptness and stupidity. A fully automatic weapon does no more damage to a firing range backstop than a single shot .45-70.
Are you fucking retarded? When used as designed, a fully auto weapon will cause MORE DAMAGE then a single shot .45-70 over the same duration. Not only that, but a fully automatic gun will not be as accurate either.
Have you not read the entire freaking thread?
I for sure know you haven't.
We have given you evidence supporting the statement that making these firearms less restricted (less, not completely unrestricted) will not have a significant impact on violent crime.
Bull and fucking shit. You've pulled a stat from an era with certain gun restrictions. Using THAT STAT as evidence to prove we can now RELAX those laws, and expect that trend to remain the same, is a pipe dream. If you don't see this can I suggest you pay attention to what you're typing, I promise your rifle ain't going anywhere.
With the draconian laws in place right now, only one crime has been committed with a legally owned weapon, while the rest of crimes committed with automatic firearms were already illegal. This just goes to proove that if a criminal wants one, he will get it.
So? What's your point?
Are you really this dim witted, or are you pretending? More demand INCREASES prices, not decreases. Go take a high school economics course and then come back talking about supply and demand, moron.
Yesh. More demand will most likely increase supply which in turn will decrease prices IF, like I said, THERE ISN'T A MONOPOLY.
Yeah, at least we have supporting facts and statistics, as opposed to your mindless ranting because of your irrational fear of 'mean guns'.
Your damn RIGHT I fear machine guns. Don't you?
Not only irrelevent, but insulting to the collective intelligence of mankind.
Yeah, clearly machine gun laws should be relaxed to satisfy the wants of a small percentage of society. Even though by doing so, you will make said society less safe.
We can THANK the limited ban for such a low stat. I'd bet my left nut that if machine guns were as freely available as other guns, they'd be cheaper, and more criminals would be using them which would have fucked your stat up.
It is already illegal for known criminals to buy ANY gun. We aren't saying take that down.
But you ARE saying they should be relaxed. In what way?
Sports cars are not designed to kill things. Please explain how this analogy is relevent.
Nor are guns.
Oh please fuck off. A machine gun has only one application: to kill military personnel. I've been asking repeatedly for alternate civilian applications and have said I'd reconsider my stance if one can be found.
Firearms are a tool, to be used however the user decides. I use the old analogy 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people.' While cars aren't designed to kill things, they still kill more people than guns every year.
Very true. But cars have a role in society: they transport us from point A to point B. We NEED them. Because it's a NEED, not a WANT, we can tolerate [but never ignore] deaths caused by cars.
So what's a machine guns role?
Just shut the hell up about RPGs.
Why?
Yeah, and 70% of those points have been struck down with the remaining 30% involving your obsession with RPGs. As much as you talk about them, I am beginning to think that you have fantasies about RPGs, don't you?
Yeah I wack off to images in US weapons brouchers. Don't you?