Who has had an inter racial relationship?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-09-23 08:39pm

XPViking wrote:
No real difference in so called interracial dating. Women are women, the only forseeable problem would be international relationship, only for language barriers. - Knife
I agree with you Knife but would like to add that culture can also potentially be a huge obstacle to overcome in international relationships. Learning your spouse's language does help, but it has more to do with the mindset. In other words, I don't know if I can ever truly understand my wife's thoughts since there is, to a certain extent, a gap between Korean culture and my own.

XPViking

True enough, but we must be careful to make a distinction between culture and race. Donkey-fuckers like Arminius always assume they are synonymous, but second-generation immigrants are often indistinguishable from locals in terms of their cultural values.

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2002-09-23 10:47pm

True enough, but we must be careful to make a distinction between culture and race. Donkey-fuckers like Arminius always assume they are synonymous, but second-generation immigrants are often indistinguishable from locals in terms of their cultural values. - Darth Wong

Correct. In most cases, the first generation immigrants usually try to keep alive the culture from the "old country" but the second generation often abandons it since they want to adopt to the new culture to fit in. In this case, the language from the "old country" is usually lost. Sometimes, the second generation will become curious about their heritage and adopt some of their parent's culture into their own personality. Sometimes that person can become extreme in their behaviour.

I am speaking as one who has journeyed to a foreign land and fell in love with one of the locals, which was not part of the plan. Admittedly, it is hard for me to truly understand what immigrants experience until I became one myself. I would encourage people to travel (especially donkey-fuckers) because you will see that wherever you are, people are, for the most part, the same as you. Sounds idealistic and naive, I know.

There is an interesting Korean expression for people such as Arminius, who thinks he knows a whole lot but really doesn't; "Your shit is thick."

XPViking

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-09-23 10:59pm

Stormbringer I'll bite; no reason you shouldn't at all!

XPViking wrote:Correct. In most cases, the first generation immigrants usually try to keep alive the culture from the "old country" but the second generation often abandons it since they want to adopt to the new culture to fit in. In this case, the language from the "old country" is usually lost. Sometimes, the second generation will become curious about their heritage and adopt some of their parent's culture into their own personality. Sometimes that person can become extreme in their behaviour.

As someone who is off the boat himself, I would agree 90%. The one thing that you dind't mention is when the first generation attempts to keep the culture from the 'old country' alive, it's actuall outdated. My parents got the shock of their lives when the returned to Greece after a 16 year absence. It wasn't what they remembered and neither were peoples attitudes, and behaivour (in Greek these two things are closely linked to what we call 'culture'). Times had changed, the culture of their land had changed with it. They unfortunately had not. They freezed themselves in a time bubble without realising it.

As for me and my sister, who was born right here in Melbourne, we do have the values that were instilled in us by out parents, however we have the mind set of any other Australian (it's often strange to use that word, given that a. Australia is a multicultural country. b. Melbourne has the worlds largest concentration of Greeks, outside of Greece, infact it's the third city in the world him the most Greek population, Athens, Thessaloniki and Melbourne).

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2002-09-23 11:05pm

Crown. Thank you for your observation and is actually quite an important point. The first generation immigrants may indeed try to keep old customs going while the country they left has itself undergone change.

XPViking

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-09-23 11:08pm

Having said that, I would like to clarify that my parents were far from old fashioned 'traditional' Greeks. Far from it, if anything they were very cool, people flip out when I tell them that my sister lives out of home with her fiance, and that my parents actually support them! Mind you a few of my Aunts were none too happy about the arrangment let me tell you....

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-09-24 01:29am

I dated a black girl in the Army, she was really cool but I left the area to live somewhere else due to job reasons. She'd told me that she dated another white guy before but the bum acted ashamed of her-- acted like they were just 'hanging around' in public, wouldn't hold her hand, etc. What a hoser-- she was hot.

But in Israel, I dated mostly the girls of Middle Eastern origin-- the Jews that came from Morocco, Persia, Iraq, etc. There were cultural differences but as far as emotional satisfaction, closeness and communication other-than-words I must say these were the most satisfying relationships I'd been in. It wasn't a conscious choice for me to date these girls, I was in Beer-Sheva which is mostly 'mizrachim' (the term for people of Middle-Eastern background). They're wonderful girls and I am still in contact with them. If I go back, I could see myself marrying one of these girls...

When Sarit and I visited California, she got mistaken for a Mexican girl and a couple of people gave us shit for it-- they had no idea we were coming from an Israeli/Jewish background! People are dumb. And one wierd encounter was a girl I knew in Beer-Sheva who was the typical exchange student from Germany: blond, blue-eyed, fair skin, everything like in the books. She was Catholic, doing religious research... and while she didn't mind keeping my bed warm for the few months she was there, she was disappointed that because I'm Jewish, I wouldn't be going to heaven!

But it's not the skin color-- I've never found Asian girls to be any more or less alluring than any other girl, for example. While I like the dark complexion and silky black hair of the girls that I dated in Israel, it was their personalities that I loved like crazy, the looks were just individual tastes that I liked. What most people think are RACE differences are really just CULTURAL, for there are plenty of white, Anglo-Saxon or Slavic girls in Israel who are 100% Israeli in culture and their hair/skin tones have no bearing on the issue.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-09-24 07:41am

I haven't had a interracial relationship but I'm trying. There a black girl I know that I really want a date with. She's smart, fun, and hot. in short everything I'm looking for. Why wouldn't I try to get a date with her? I'm certainly going to try to get a date with her.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2002-09-24 04:00pm

Culture is just usualy a initial problem, if you get to the point of starting a relationship, then the culture problem is usualy taken care of. Some times other factors come into play that hides behinde culture, but these have nothing to do with culture and go another negitive way.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2002-09-24 05:48pm

help me get into a interracial (or any) relationship and I'd be happy....

salm · Post by **salm** » 2002-09-24 05:49pm

drink more ( or less )!

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2002-09-24 07:11pm

does orange juice count?

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-24 10:20pm

During my short stay in Ohio, I was dated a black girl for a couple months. We liked each other and were leaving a bar when we ran into a Nazi-wannabe from school.

He threatened her life, so I beat the living shit out of him. Little snot ran off whimpering like a baby.

There is NOTHING wrong with interracial dating. The bastards who say that there is are pathetic little shits who are the byproducts of outdated hateful systems.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-09-24 10:55pm

No the point is that I really draw the line at those who have Trans-Special relationships. (Pull up your pants & Back away from the Sheep!)

of course truely pathertic are the ones that have relations with the non-organic.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-24 10:57pm

Let's not go there.

tharkûn · Post by **tharkûn** » 2002-09-25 09:28am

During my short stay in Ohio, I was dated a black girl for a couple months. We liked each other and were leaving a bar when we ran into a Nazi-wannabe from school.

He threatened her life, so I beat the living shit out of him. Little snot ran off whimpering like a baby.

Has anyone ever met a racist who is willing/able to put their money where their mouth is? I have yet to find a racist willing to fight anyone on remotely even terms. Sure some will beat up women and children (no offense to women but generally speaking they lack the muscle mass and are less likely to know how to fight) or fight when they have numbers/weapons. However I have yet to meet one willing to go 1:1 with anybody who might *possibly* kick their ass. We had a KKK rally near my college during undergrad. Out of ~100 nutcases not one took up an offer to practice some Krav Maga (I mean how good can it be, it was developed by Jews?).

Racial superiority, my ass.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2002-09-25 12:09pm

SWPIGWANG wrote:help me get into a interracial (or any) relationship and I'd be happy....

Turn off your computer and go outside. I heard a rumor that most women are out there and not in your house.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-25 02:18pm

Racists are idiots who've been taught to believe that they've been victimized by the (insert racial group here). Because of the self-pitying streak, they'll rarely start a fight unless they have superior numbers.

ex: Did you ever here of KKK members challenging blacks to duels?

NO!

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2002-09-25 10:01pm

Duels? You mean with swords or pistols at twenty paces?

XPViking

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-25 10:06pm

exactly. The wimps would never fight fair.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-09-25 10:15pm

Mah, I seen one of them pick on my friend Daniel Martinez. Yeah, short, skinny, 110 pounds, called him a <Derrogatory terms for Homosexual, and Hispanic> and tried to shove him. I bleive the formula we are looking for is (Akido+Caporia)> (Bullshit+Alcohol)

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-09-25 10:19pm

tharkûn wrote: Out of ~100 nutcases not one took up an offer to practice some Krav Maga (I mean how good can it be, it was developed by Jews?).

Curb thy tongue, knave!

But oddly enough, here in Idaho the Jewish, Muslim and Hindu communities go almost unmolested but, get this, the MORMONS are picked on a lot. There have been more swastikas painted onthe Mormon temple than any of the other communities together. If anyone has an explanation for this, I'd sure be interested in hearing it, since the Mormons are another sect of Christianity and some of their earlier teachings were kinda pro-White...

Real oddballs include the enclave at Elohim City, Oklahoma. These are Aryan-Nazi skinhead redneck types that believe that they are the true "Israelites" and the term "Elohim" is a HEBREW word for "God". They say that the people who call themselves "Jews" today are not the true inheritors of "Israel", and that these swastika-wearing wack jobs are.

Takes all kinds...

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2002-09-25 10:59pm

But oddly enough, here in Idaho the Jewish, Muslim and Hindu communities go almost unmolested but, get this, the MORMONS are picked on a lot. There have been more swastikas painted onthe Mormon temple than any of the other communities together. If anyone has an explanation for this, I'd sure be interested in hearing it, since the Mormons are another sect of Christianity and some of their earlier teachings were kinda pro-White... - Coyote

Weird. Sounds like Arminius' band of morons. They can't even get their insults right so what can you expect?

Real oddballs include the enclave at Elohim City, Oklahoma. These are Aryan-Nazi skinhead redneck types that believe that they are the true "Israelites" and the term "Elohim" is a HEBREW word for "God". They say that the people who call themselves "Jews" today are not the true inheritors of "Israel", and that these swastika-wearing wack jobs are.

Takes all kinds... - Coyote

Yup. One should point out that racist, inbred donkey-fuckers are not confined to just the "white" race, but that all forms of extremism can be found it different countries and races.

XPViking