The Boondock Saints vs Bad Boys II

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-08-22 08:46pm

After they blow Yakavetta away, Connor, Murphy, and Ill Duce escape into the streets of Boston. The police, desperate to catch the vigilantes, call up the west coast.

Marcus Burnett(Martin Lawrence) and Mike Lowrey(Will Smith) are brought over to Boston. Their mission is simple: Bring in the vigilantes, dead or alive.

For their part, the Saints have seen Bad Boys II and, quite apart from the shittiness of the flick, they realize that these two detectives are not particularly wholesome men. Therefor, they decide that Burnett and Lowrey must be killed.

When all is said and done, who walks out of the city?

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2003-08-22 11:03pm

And shepherds we shall be,

for thee my Lord for thee,

Power hath descended forth from thy hand,

that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command,

we shall flow a river forth to thee,

and teeming with souls shall it ever be.

In nomine patrie,et fili et spiritu sancti.

Then the "bad boys" are no more.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-08-23 02:33am

I agree with Sam Or I.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-08-23 10:47pm

Yeah, I tend to agree. And of course, we get to see William Dafoe narrate the whole thing.

Sriad · Post by **Sriad** » 2003-08-24 12:14am

HemlockGrey wrote:Yeah, I tend to agree. And of course, we get to see William Dafoe narrate the whole thing.

Best part. He's a trip when he gets his shootout reconstruction face on.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-08-24 02:50am

The Saints are definitely cooler.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-24 04:04am

I just ordered Boondock saints I have yet to stomcah the first bad boys movie...

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-08-24 12:29pm

By the way, is there any word on when the sequel, "All Saints Day" is going to be released?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-24 02:31pm

No but I saw the website...

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-08-24 09:12pm

Durandal wrote:By the way, is there any word on when the sequel, "All Saints Day" is going to be released?

I think the website said 2004.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-25 05:50pm

The Saints all the way. How do you beat divine protection after all?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-08-25 06:40pm

Stormbringer wrote:The Saints all the way. How do you beat divine protection after all?

Is the whole being able to speak in every language supposed to be some diving gift?

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-08-25 06:55pm

neoolong wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:The Saints all the way. How do you beat divine protection after all?
Is the whole being able to speak in every language supposed to be some diving gift?

No, they learned languages when they were kids. I think they said their mom made them learn them, but I don't remember. But what I do remember is that that's not one of their divine gifts.

In fact, the movie never explicitly shows them to have divine protection. The only remotely mystical thing that happens (aside from a lot of providential luck) is that they both woke up at the same time and said the same stuff in the jail cell.

My take is that they're just loonies that happen to use their lunacy for the forces of awesome.

EDIT: Speaking of their mom, did you guys watch the deleted scene with her in it? That was fucking hilarious.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2003-08-25 06:56pm

*edit* already answered

I haven't seen any deleted scenes

, all my dvd has on it is the film, no extras or anything like that... can i find it on kazaa/etc?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-08-25 07:40pm

The extended scene with the militant lesbian is hilarious, as well.
"How many lesbians does it take to screw in a light bulb? Two. One to screw it in, and one, wee little lesbian ... to suck my fucking cock!"

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-25 07:51pm

Robert Treder wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:The Saints all the way. How do you beat divine protection after all?
Is the whole being able to speak in every language supposed to be some diving gift?
No, they learned languages when they were kids. I think they said their mom made them learn them, but I don't remember. But what I do remember is that that's not one of their divine gifts.

Nope, they just grew up in the ghetto and had a gift for languages.

Robert Treder wrote:In fact, the movie never explicitly shows them to have divine protection. The only remotely mystical thing that happens (aside from a lot of providential luck) is that they both woke up at the same time and said the same stuff in the jail cell.

My take is that they're just loonies that happen to use their lunacy for the forces of awesome.

Never explicitly. But the imagery and some of the thematic elements make it clear that's the idea. Of course it is debateble whether it's divine protection or luck so good it might as well be.

Robert Treder wrote:EDIT: Speaking of their mom, did you guys watch the deleted scene with her in it? That was fucking hilarious.

Yeah. But my favorite scene has got to be Rocco explaining the dead cat.

"I thought it would bring closure to our relationship".

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-08-25 07:56pm

Stormbringer wrote:Nope, they just grew up in the ghetto and had a gift for languages.

When Smecker was interviewing them, they said that their mother had insisted on them learning multiple languages.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-25 07:57pm

Durandal wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Nope, they just grew up in the ghetto and had a gift for languages.
When Smecker was interviewing them, they said that their mother had insisted on them learning multiple languages.

Yeah, there is that too. But I think a lot of it was their own gift for them and exposure.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-08-25 07:58pm

Robert Treder wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:The Saints all the way. How do you beat divine protection after all?
Is the whole being able to speak in every language supposed to be some diving gift?
No, they learned languages when they were kids. I think they said their mom made them learn them, but I don't remember. But what I do remember is that that's not one of their divine gifts.

In fact, the movie never explicitly shows them to have divine protection. The only remotely mystical thing that happens (aside from a lot of providential luck) is that they both woke up at the same time and said the same stuff in the jail cell.

My take is that they're just loonies that happen to use their lunacy for the forces of awesome.

EDIT: Speaking of their mom, did you guys watch the deleted scene with her in it? That was fucking hilarious.

Divine gift first of all. Not diving.

I meant it as in alluding to them being divine, because aren't angels supposed to be able to speak in every language? I thought it was supposed to be symbolic.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-08-25 08:01pm

Zac Naloen wrote:*edit* already answered

I haven't seen any deleted scenes , all my dvd has on it is the film, no extras or anything like that... can i find it on kazaa/etc?

No talk of illegal activities.

And depending on which country you're in, you might have gotten a bare-bones edition of the DVD.

We have a Special Edition I believe. With outtakes, deleted scenes, commentary, etc.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-25 08:02pm

neoolong wrote:I meant it as in alluding to them being divine, because aren't angels supposed to be able to speak in every language? I thought it was supposed to be symbolic.

It probably is. There's layer upon layer of symbolism in that movie. Really there's no more than a handful of scene with out something.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-08-25 09:27pm

The best scene has got to be the whole sequence where Smecker is telling the cops what happened at that one house, and he's in the scene with the Saints, from when they leave the car to the end of the shootout with Ill Duce.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-08-25 09:34pm

Maybe we should just start a new topic about Boondock Saints, since this is a versus thread.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-25 10:51pm

HemlockGrey wrote:The best scene has got to be the whole sequence where Smecker is telling the cops what happened at that one house, and he's in the scene with the Saints, from when they leave the car to the end of the shootout with Ill Duce.

Yeah, that's definitely a sweet sequence. I think it's amazing how they used the films editing to show him getting closer and closer to them. Great film making.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-08-25 11:55pm

HemlockGrey wrote:The best scene has got to be the whole sequence where Smecker is telling the cops what happened at that one house, and he's in the scene with the Saints, from when they leave the car to the end of the shootout with Ill Duce.

It was an excellent scene, very creatively done. Everything from Smecker's positioning in the scenes to where he walked was outstanding. I also love the opening credit sequence.