The United Nations: A Legitimate Target? Yes! Allahuackbar!

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-08-28 11:19pm

Last week witnessed two tremendous operations by the Mujahideen, one in Palestine and the other in Baghdad. As far as Palestine is concerned there are no doubters that the Jewish occupiers of Muslim land must leave or face the consequences, fit for those who perpetrate aggression against Muslims. Surprisingly however, there are still some who believe that the United Nations (targeted in the bombing in Baghdad) is an independent organisation representing the wishes of the so-called 'international community' as opposed to a quango organisation doing the bidding of the US.

A cursory glance at the United Nations reveals thatthis tool, tongue and hand of the US had, as its first 'achievement,' giving away the Muslim land of Palestine to the Jews in 1948. Consequently every UN resolution attempting to discredit the pirate State of Israel has been vetoed by its master, the US. Indeed only resolutions which are anti-Muslim are ever seen to be acknowledged and acted upon, at the behest of the US, such as the barbaric (10 year) sanctions on food, medicine and basic needs, imposed upon the women and children of Iraq, leading to the death of millions of innocent people.

Moreover was it not the UN which recently stood by to watch the US and UK murder innocent people in Iraq? Rather than condemning the US and UK murderers, rapists and thieves in Iraq, we find that the UN are in fact accomplices with them, aiding and abetting them to siphon off the oil of the Muslims, allowing them to continue to occupy Muslim land and helping them to usurp Muslim resources. Verily it was the UN soldiers in Bosnia who were recorded to have stood by when the barbaric Serbs massacred Muslims. The UN first decided to take away the weapons of the Muslims (fearing that they might actually defend themselves and establish Islamic rule) and thereby facilitated their massacre, and were then even photographed helping in the mass murder and gang rape of Muslim women and children. The wounds are still fresh….

For those Muslims who may still be confused, we would ask them to study the history of the United Nations which was preceded by the League of Nations in Europe and which itself was preceded by a Christian alliance of countries, in the middle ages up until the 19th Century, opposed to the expansion of the then Islamic State i.e. Al-Khilafah or Othmani Khilafah (to be precise). Established upon the principles of freedom and democracy, the UN expounds the four freedoms emanating from the capitalist ideology, based upon secularism or the separation of divine law from political life. An examination of the 'UN Declaration of Human Rights' shows how the freedoms of 'expression', 'ownership', 'worship' and 'personal freedom' form the bedrock of the UN's constitution, all being alien to Islam, which, far from such anarchy, demands complete, exclusive and non-negotiable submission to the law of the creator, Allah (SWT).

Even the fig-leaf of 'representation' and 'participation', behind which the UN tries to cajole the Muslims, no longer hides their nakedness. The blatant disregard of the UN, by the US and UK, in the latest Iraq episode shows that what really matters to the UN is what the US government decides. Any potential objectors will initially be intimidated or threatened, and, if all else fails, they will be branded 'supporters of terrorism' by the US, and then subsequently ignored!

In conclusion, the UN is no more than a front to legitimise US foreign policies. A rubber stamp to legalise the spilling of Muslim blood, a green light signalling the turning of a blind eye to any atrocities committed against Muslims. Hence we see that only the Muslims defending their life, honour and property are in fact 'terrorists' for the UN, as opposed to the Russians who massacre Muslims in Chechnya or the Jews who occupy Palestine or the Hindus who gang rape Muslim women in Kashmir or the US & UK who carpet bomb Muslims in Afghanistan or the US & UK who occupy and continue to kill Muslims in Iraq or the tyrant rulers (given credibility by the UN) who continue to oppress Muslims in Muslim countries…etc…etc…

One of the many benefits of 9/11 was that it clearly delineated the two camps of Islam and Kufr (non-Islam), the camp of Haq (truth) and that of Batil (falsehood), the camp of sovereignty and supremacy for God as opposed to sovereignty and supremacy for man made law. Verily Muslims have no choice but to reject all alliances apart from those with Muslims. This means rejecting the UN and any organisation or body propagating man made law. As Allah (SWT) says in the Qur'an:

'O believers do not take the Jews and Christians as friends and protectors. They are just supporters of and love each other alone. And whoever does turn to them is one of them. Verily Allah does not guide the oppressors' [EMQ 5:51]

And 'The believers are a single brotherhood' [EMQ 49:10]

Let it be known therefore that all regimes, governments and bodies (implementing man made law) in the world today are rejected by Muslims and that the only legitimate authority, recognised in Islam on the state level, is that of the Islamic State i.e. Al-Khilafah, which must be established by Muslims and which will carry the message of Islam to the world - striving for Izhar ud-Deen i.e. the total domination of the world by Islam, through its divine foreign policy of Jihad.

Well, now we know who thinks the UN bombing was a really, really great thing, at least.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-08-29 12:34am

AHhaha the UN has been enabling terrorism since it's inception...

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-08-29 12:54am

Idiot, the UN is paralyzed by its lack of Central Authority. The only real action they've got done was in Korea, and only then because Stalin sat out of a UN meeting like an idiot. He never made that mistake again.

Ah yes, please, explain to me how much of a busy center of trade and commerce Palestine was under the Ottoman Empire. Please.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-08-29 01:00am

I still stand by my, er, conviction that Islam is one religion that has a really good excuse to be wiped off the face of the planet.

Chauvinistic to the nth degree? Yep.
Supports terrorism? Yep (although moderates try to cover it up, it's in the Koran...)
Permanently stuck in the feudal age? Yep...

Yeah, yeah, feel free to flame me if you think I'm being biased or whatever. *sound of head whacking keyboard*

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2003-08-29 01:23am

"In conclusion, the UN is no more than a front to legitimise US foreign policies."
The UN, a front for the USA.

We are supposed to TALK to these folks?

Years back, working in a pornoshop/stripbar, I had to tell a customer to leave, as he was too agitated from meth, to sit still in line to get in the club, or shut up. I told him, "get in line, or don't, but make a choice and see it through, or get the fuck out."
He looked into my eyes, and said in a voice right out of a bad movie, (Cringing whining junkie needs a fix tone of voice) and said. "I know what's REALY going on here! That phone call was THEM, wasn't it? What did they tell you, huh?" With the little quaver and everything.

I shut my jaw with a snap, and got the bouncer, just in case.
There was NO point in talking.

Same with this guy, and the ones like him.
No point in talking.

There was NO point in talking to this man, as he was delusional.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-08-29 01:55am

EmperorChrostas the Cruel wrote:"In conclusion, the UN is no more than a front to legitimise US foreign policies."
The UN, a front for the USA.

We are supposed to TALK to these folks?

Years back, working in a pornoshop/stripbar, I had to tell a customer to leave, as he was too agitated from meth, to sit still in line to get in the club, or shut up. I told him, "get in line, or don't, but make a choice and see it through, or get the fuck out."
He looked into my eyes, and said in a voice right out of a bad movie, (Cringing whining junkie needs a fix tone of voice) and said. "I know what's REALY going on here! That phone call was THEM, wasn't it? What did they tell you, huh?" With the little quaver and everything.

I shut my jaw with a snap, and got the bouncer, just in case.
There was NO point in talking.

Same with this guy, and the ones like him.
No point in talking.

There was NO point in talking to this man, as he was delusional.

If this was Slashdot, I'd mod you up for that story

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-08-29 02:05am

Crayz9000 wrote:I still stand by my, er, conviction that Islam is one religion that has a really good excuse to be wiped off the face of the planet.

Chauvinistic to the nth degree? Yep.
Supports terrorism? Yep (although moderates try to cover it up, it's in the Koran...)
Permanently stuck in the feudal age? Yep...

Yeah, yeah, feel free to flame me if you think I'm being biased or whatever. *sound of head whacking keyboard*

I agree. However, the same criticisms could potentially be applied to Christianity as well as Hinduism.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-08-29 02:07am

I agree. However, the same criticisms could potentially be applied to Christianity as well as Hinduism.

I don't know jack about Hinduism. Is there nasty stuff in the Hindu holy book(s)?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-08-29 02:10am

Hamel wrote:
I agree. However, the same criticisms could potentially be applied to Christianity as well as Hinduism.
I don't know jack about Hinduism. Is there nasty stuff in the Hindu holy book(s)?

Well, they believe that all of the people in the world came from various parts of a deity. Some races came from his hands, some races came from his feet, etc. And some races came from his "unmentionable" parts, so they're "untouchable" and it's OK to treat them like shit. That belief alone makes it a shitty religion, if you ask me.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-08-29 03:22am

Darth Wong wrote:
Hamel wrote:
I agree. However, the same criticisms could potentially be applied to Christianity as well as Hinduism.
I don't know jack about Hinduism. Is there nasty stuff in the Hindu holy book(s)?
Well, they believe that all of the people in the world came from various parts of a deity. Some races came from his hands, some races came from his feet, etc. And some races came from his "unmentionable" parts, so they're "untouchable" and it's OK to treat them like shit. That belief alone makes it a shitty religion, if you ask me.

Added to this is the fact that the religion promots an anti-capitalistic mentality with its "desire causes suffering" tenent.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-08-29 03:23am

Opps, thats Buddism. Guess we could add that to the list also then.

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-08-29 03:32am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Opps, thats Buddism. Guess we could add that to the list also then.

IIRC Confucianism was the anti-capitalistic religion? Either way they're both sexist against women.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-08-29 03:42am

Rubberanvil wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Opps, thats Buddism. Guess we could add that to the list also then.
IIRC Confucianism was the anti-capitalistic religion? Either way they're both sexist against women.

Confusian was also anticapitalistic in that it assigned prestiege and benefits to various occupations. That buracrats were high on the scale and merchants and small time producers (proto-industrialists) were low on the scale, should tell you all you need to know on why Confusianism was anti-capitalistic. In other words, they're both anti-capitalistic, just in different ways.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-08-29 09:59am

Rubberanvil wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Opps, thats Buddism. Guess we could add that to the list also then.
IIRC Confucianism was the anti-capitalistic religion? Either way they're both sexist against women.

I thought Buddhism wasn't sexist? Where did you get that from?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-08-29 12:09pm

Christianity is anti-capitalistic too (Jesus beating up the moneychangers, rich people can't get into heaven, etc).

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-08-29 12:15pm

Crayz9000 wrote:I still stand by my, er, conviction that Islam is one religion that has a really good excuse to be wiped off the face of the planet.

Chauvinistic to the nth degree? Yep.
Supports terrorism? Yep (although moderates try to cover it up, it's in the Koran...)
Permanently stuck in the feudal age? Yep...

Yeah, yeah, feel free to flame me if you think I'm being biased or whatever. *sound of head whacking keyboard*

To be fair, this version of Islam that has gripped the Middle East is a fundamentalist version of the religion. Islam under the caliphs of the medieval era, particualrly in Spain practiced an enormous degree of tolerance and equality. When the Spanish were retaking their land from the arabs, many Jews and other minoritoes fled WITH the arabs because they were treated better under Islam than they were under Christian rule.

Not to mention Islam was the cultural mecca of the early to mid Medieval era, many books and artifacts were kept in Arab hands when Europeans were still having trouble with the concept of zero.

Islam has sadly fallen from this height to the shitty keeping women in beekeeper suits and offering no hope for their people save martyrdom religion that it is now.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2003-08-29 02:07pm

So... the guys in the middle east are basically a bunch of fundies?

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-08-29 03:32pm

I wonder how long it is going to take from Islam to return to the old good ways? So far their dark age has lasted over half a millennia with no end in sight. They made some progress after the Second World War, but it did not last long...

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-08-29 04:05pm

Darth Wong wrote: I agree. However, the same criticisms could potentially be applied to Christianity as well as Hinduism.

The difference is:

Christian Fundies: "God will send you to HELL when you DIE!"

Hindu Fundies: "You will be reincarnated as a Cockroach when you DIE!"

Islamic Fundies: "I send YOU TO HELL! ALLAU ACKBAR!" *booom*

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-08-29 05:05pm

I wonder what derailed them: The Turks, the Mongols or the Crusades?

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-08-29 05:44pm

Crayz9000 wrote:I still stand by my, er, conviction that Islam is one religion that has a really good excuse to be wiped off the face of the planet.

I would say that all religions should be wiped out, either because of the reasons you metioned, or the fact that they are stupid beliefs. But the way to do it is through rational conversion, not killing someone over thoughts.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-08-29 06:16pm

Oberleutnant wrote:I wonder how long it is going to take from Islam to return to the old good ways? So far their dark age has lasted over half a millennia with no end in sight. They made some progress after the Second World War, but it did not last long...

When they stop making oil money.

Zac Naloen wrote: So... the guys in the middle east are basically a bunch of fundies?

No, don't generalize like that. A lot of them are, but not all.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-08-29 06:18pm

Vorlon1701 wrote:
Oberleutnant wrote:I wonder how long it is going to take from Islam to return to the old good ways? So far their dark age has lasted over half a millennia with no end in sight. They made some progress after the Second World War, but it did not last long...
When they stop making oil money.

Zac Naloen wrote: So... the guys in the middle east are basically a bunch of fundies?
No, don't generalize like that. A lot of them are, but not all.

But those who are`nt fundies don`t have the guts to come up and tell the retards to STFU.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-08-29 06:25pm

Montcalm wrote: But those who are`nt fundies don`t have the guts to come up and tell the retards to STFU.

Yeah, and if you were a white man in the KKK dominated South, I'm sure you would've told them to STFU too

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-08-29 06:31pm

Vorlon1701 wrote:
Montcalm wrote: But those who are`nt fundies don`t have the guts to come up and tell the retards to STFU.
Yeah, and if you were a white man in the KKK dominated South, I'm sure you would've told them to STFU too

We have racists here and they`re called "Separatists"