Babylon 5 Galaxy Map

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-28 11:18pm

kojikun wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Aren't you like 17? That's not that much business.
Don't know many people in the business do you, Storm?

Yeah, I do actually. I go a school that's got a graphic arts program and half the architects wind up in their.

Agent R · Post by **Agent R** » 2003-08-29 12:47am

One must greatly admire the workmanship that went into this....

....I pause to genuflect before this work and and it's creator(s).....

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-29 12:53am

Stormbringer wrote:Yeah, I do actually. I go a school that's got a graphic arts program and half the architects wind up in their.

Hah. Those architects.

What school do you go to?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-08-29 12:55am

Could someone please explain to me why everyone's drooling over a 2-D map whose graphic content is limited to some glow-dots connected by straight lines on a space background?

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-08-29 12:59am

Darth Wong wrote:Could someone please explain to me why everyone's drooling over a 2-D map whose graphic content is limited to some glow-dots connected by straight lines on a space background?

It actually shows the location of all the B5 places.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-08-29 01:10am

Darth Wong wrote:Could someone please explain to me why everyone's drooling over a 2-D map whose graphic content is limited to some glow-dots connected by straight lines on a space background?

The same reason people drool over the huge two dimensional paintings guiding the Sistine Chapel. Investment of time and effort.

That, and it just looks pretty.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-08-29 01:13am

Fuzzy; your map is outstanding in detail, I just have two questions.

First, what is the scale of the map? Is it showing half of the Galaxy, one quater an arm?

Second, where did you get the references for the stars? Some (Sol) are obvious, but I don't recall many of the shown Empires actually stated on the show.

Good work though, regardless.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-08-29 02:14am

Vorlon1701 wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Could someone please explain to me why everyone's drooling over a 2-D map whose graphic content is limited to some glow-dots connected by straight lines on a space background?
The same reason people drool over the huge two dimensional paintings guiding the Sistine Chapel. Investment of time and effort.

Hey, it's OK to be impressed by an investment of time and effort, but some of the people in this thread are actually drooling over its appearance, which is rather ridiculous.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2003-08-29 02:32am

Darth Wong wrote:Hey, it's OK to be impressed by an investment of time and effort, but some of the people in this thread are actually drooling over its appearance, which is rather ridiculous.

So, what you're saying is that it's not the best thing since sliced bread? Did you even see the glowy stars!?

Post by **Edi** » 2003-08-29 05:16am

Nice map, but it seems to indicate a very small scale, the area would only cover a very small portion of our galaxy, namely the environs immediately around Earth. You can get some idea of distance from the fact that Vega is located some 800 light years from Earth, and in that map, it's nearly halfway across. This makes the are depicted vanishingly small when you compare to the whole of the galaxy.

Edi

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-08-29 05:28am

Edi wrote:Nice map, but it seems to indicate a very small scale, the area would only cover a very small portion of our galaxy, namely the environs immediately around Earth. You can get some idea of distance from the fact that Vega is located some 800 light years from Earth, and in that map, it's nearly halfway across. This makes the are depicted vanishingly small when you compare to the whole of the galaxy.

Edi

Which is the way it should be.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2003-08-29 08:56am

Thats a really good map op the B5 universe.

Also, it shows the correct scale of the empires of B5. That corrects the totally crazy assumption of some rabid Fivers, that B5 spans the entire galaxy......

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-29 04:58pm

Ok, all of you people close your mouths. His map is not "extremely good detail" or "really good", its an edit of a map he didn't even make. It's about 5 minutes worth of Photoshop work and it doesn't have anything particularly challenging at all. Good gods, you're all hypnotized by the pretty colors, stop acting like children attracted to anything brightly coloured.

If you want detailed maps go find some really obsessive scifi writers notebooks.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-29 05:09pm

Kojikun, are you alleging plagarism? Becuase if you are I'd appreciate seeing the facts.

And it's not detailed. But that thing must have taken a while to do and it's a really nice design. It's a very nice peice of work.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-08-29 05:26pm

kojikun wrote:Ok, all of you people close your mouths. His map is not "extremely good detail" or "really good", its an edit of a map he didn't even make. It's about 5 minutes worth of Photoshop work and it doesn't have anything particularly challenging at all. Good gods, you're all hypnotized by the pretty colors, stop acting like children attracted to anything brightly coloured.

If you want detailed maps go find some really obsessive scifi writers notebooks.

Look man, stop ragging. You wanna go out and brag of your photoshop skills, show us something better! Honestly, grow up.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2003-08-29 06:24pm

I would like to see the original this is based off of, just so we can see why it is kojikun is getting worked up over "pretty colours and bright things"

btw my original statement still stands... wow... just... wow

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-08-29 07:01pm

(staring at map) Pretty.............

Wow, I'm saving this. How did you get all the names of the stars?

Fuzzy Modem · Post by **Fuzzy Modem** » 2003-08-29 11:04pm

I spent about 4 days on this map. Maybe 20 hours in Photoshop, plus a week or so of research (watching episodes and running searches) before I started. Like I said, I had no life at the time.

Yes it is only a portion of the galaxy, becuase the B5 races only inhabit a portion of the galaxy. This was said many times. :p

Here is the official B5 Wars map it was loosly based off of.

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/systemmap.jpg

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-29 11:23pm

Fuzzy Modem wrote:Here is the official B5 Wars map it was loosly based off of.

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/systemmap.jpg

Now that is a nice map.

Fuzzy Modem · Post by **Fuzzy Modem** » 2003-08-29 11:28pm

kojikun wrote:Now that is a nice map.

I think it's gaudy and inaccurate, not to mention that all the systems fit into a perfect square

Also, it's not print quality and I wanted one I could print out to be 3'x5' for a Babylon 5 Wars compaign.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-29 11:31pm

Fuzzy Modem wrote:I think it's gaudy and inaccurate, not to mention that all the systems fit into a perfect square

No, gaudy is lots of symbols and fades and bright glows and shit. Their map is functional and clean. It's also clearly not meant to represent actual borders but relative shapes/size and position.

Also, it's not print quality and I wanted one I could print out to be 3'x5' for a Babylon 5 Wars compaign.

Point being? You could have made a map like theirs only larger. Yeah, they have some bad design elements, like the over-the-tope images representing things like homeworlds, but thats not a huge design flaw.

Fuzzy Modem · Post by **Fuzzy Modem** » 2003-08-29 11:35pm

Meh, to each his own I guess. I like my the way it is or I would have made it differently wouldent I

BTW, feel free to post any of your breathtakingly phenominal work. I'm sure we'll all be very impressed.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-29 11:46pm

Fuzzy Modem wrote:Meh, to each his own I guess. I like my the way it is or I would have made it differently wouldent I

Each his own is fine. But the people here are worshipping you for very little.I have expressed my dislike of this silliness. People come in here and worship you instead of giving proper praise to the people in AnP who have made some pretty nice pieces of art. It pisses me off.

BTW, feel free to post any of your breathtakingly phenominal work. I'm sure we'll all be very impressed.

Firstly, have I claimed to have made breath taking or phenomenal work? No. Honestly, I think my work is shit. But thats just me. If you want, tho, I can do something for you. How about I make a digital painting and show you? I was working on one earlier in my graphic design class, I can restart it here.

Fuzzy Modem · Post by **Fuzzy Modem** » 2003-08-30 12:05am

kojikun wrote:Each his own is fine. But the people here are worshipping you for very little.

Not they're not. They are just being silly. Remember that every response in the internet is a bit exagerated, escpecially on a message board. I'd be very surprised if any of them gave it any consideration at all after moving on to the next thread.

Thats what people do. Go to the Art forum here or at SB sometime. 90% of the responses make the poster out to be the second coming, even if his work is only 'fair' by industry standards. It's just a way of showing appreciation. When you are limited to text to convey dialague saying 'Thats nice' comes off insincere. You have to put more emphasis behind it to convey appreciation.

kojikun wrote:I have expressed my dislike of this silliness. People come in here and worship you instead of giving proper praise to the people in AnP who have made some pretty nice pieces of art. It pisses me off.

And I'm sure that if the people at AnP (what is AnP?) were to post here they would get a similar response, most likely even more exaulting.

kojikun wrote:Firstly, have I claimed to have made breath taking or phenomenal work? No. Honestly, I think my work is shit.

Then you're standards are too high. Not everyone is a Michelangelo or Picasso. You need to have appreciation for what you CAN do.

kojikun wrote:If you want, tho, I can do something for you. How about I make a digital painting and show you? I was working on one earlier in my graphic design class, I can restart it here.

Feel free. Post it in the Art forum. I promise to CONSTRUCTIVLY critisize it, and give you pointers or advice wherever I fell I can help. My area of expertise is Maya, but I'll offer help wherever I can.

As I said in the inital post, I don't really look at this as an art piece, it's referance material, and that's where the work went, into making it as accurate as possible. At the some time, I didn't want it to look TOO ugly

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-08-30 01:29am

Fuzzy Modem wrote:
Not they're not. They are just being silly. Remember that every response in the internet is a bit exagerated, escpecially on a message board. I'd be very surprised if any of them gave it any consideration at all after moving on to the next thread.

That pretty much sums it up right there. Vocal timbre and tonals don't transmit well across text, so...