[HH-STGOD] Discussion thread

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-28 09:49am

Dahak wrote:Read Crown of SLaves
Mesa's standing right now is far from secure, and is slipping...

I am. And Mesa is under pressure but the Sollies aren't about to sell it out anytime soon. They're unpopular but they've got too many erstwhile allies in the government, at least right now.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-08-28 10:11am

Dahak wrote:Changed.
And since we don't have the Sollies around here, what would they say about attacking Mesa, or stopping them, in exchange for Manticoran technology?

Infringe on Solarian territory and die...the Periphery is still here, just somewhat...inactive (trying to figure out what I should do...).

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-28 10:48am

The Dark wrote:
Dahak wrote:Changed.
And since we don't have the Sollies around here, what would they say about attacking Mesa, or stopping them, in exchange for Manticoran technology?
Infringe on Solarian territory and die...the Periphery is still here, just somewhat...inactive (trying to figure out what I should do...).

You're the whole of the Solarian League now.

And posting an Order of Battle would be a really, really good start.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-08-28 10:58am

Stormbringer wrote:
The Dark wrote:
Dahak wrote:Changed.
And since we don't have the Sollies around here, what would they say about attacking Mesa, or stopping them, in exchange for Manticoran technology?
Infringe on Solarian territory and die...the Periphery is still here, just somewhat...inactive (trying to figure out what I should do...).
You're the whole of the Solarian League now.

And posting an Order of Battle would be a really, really good start.

I'll get to work on it ASAP. It may be a couple days, though, because freshmen start moving in today, and I'm wearing about four different hats right now, between Orientation, Student Government, Phi Sigma Tau, and Campus Entertainment. I promise it will be up by the end of Sunday.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-28 11:00am

Okay, as soon as you can.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-08-28 01:56pm

The Dark wrote:
Dahak wrote:Changed.
And since we don't have the Sollies around here, what would they say about attacking Mesa, or stopping them, in exchange for Manticoran technology?
Infringe on Solarian territory and die...the Periphery is still here, just somewhat...inactive (trying to figure out what I should do...).

For starters, you can look through some of the diplomatic traffic directed at the Sollies.
Haven for one is quite interested

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-28 03:48pm

Some one willing to temporarily manage Mazapan?

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-08-29 01:37am

Ooh, Ooh, a hopeless fight against impossible odds? Me Please.

*ceases being serious now* The first step of their strategy will be to have all of their ships defect to Manticore, carrying their entire treasury. The second step will be to destroy their own planetary populations in such a way to frame Haven. Step three will be to rot freely on planets no longer oppressed.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-08-29 04:24am

consequences wrote:Ooh, Ooh, a hopeless fight against impossible odds? Me Please.

*ceases being serious now* The first step of their strategy will be to have all of their ships defect to Manticore, carrying their entire treasury. The second step will be to destroy their own planetary populations in such a way to frame Haven. Step three will be to rot freely on planets no longer oppressed.

And days later, a fleet of 200 SD(P)s orbits MAnticore, happy with its new conquest

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-08-29 04:29am

Dahak wrote:
consequences wrote:Ooh, Ooh, a hopeless fight against impossible odds? Me Please.

*ceases being serious now* The first step of their strategy will be to have all of their ships defect to Manticore, carrying their entire treasury. The second step will be to destroy their own planetary populations in such a way to frame Haven. Step three will be to rot freely on planets no longer oppressed.
And days later, a fleet of 200 SD(P)s orbits MAnticore, happy with its new conquest

Of Haven

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-29 01:26pm

consequences wrote:Ooh, Ooh, a hopeless fight against impossible odds? Me Please.

Sure. But keep it honest? Mkay?

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-08-29 01:28pm

I'm going to need an update on exactly how much was lost in the attack on Asgard, and how many systems other than my home one I have to provide coverage to.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-29 01:46pm

Losses were all sixteen DNs (two were captured), 23 of 30 battlecruisers, and 11 of 30 escorts.

And Mazapan has three systems/planets.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-08-29 01:50pm

So me=screwed, allrighty then.

Are the other two systems important enough to warrant a garrison of ships of the wall?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-29 01:52pm

Your call.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-08-29 01:57pm

Hmmm, given the callous nature of the attacks so far, the leadership would probably say f*@$ the colonies, we have to protect the shipyards.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-29 02:06pm

Your call.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-08-29 05:43pm

Hm, about the battle?
Are Matapani SDs more conventional in their weapons mix?
If so, the Asgardian ships will be at a bit of disadvantage in energy armamant, at least the Seydlitz-SDs...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-29 05:46pm

The Asgard ships are the Odin-class. Essentially the IAN's Derflinger-class. They're four deckers (as opposed to the traditional three) so they're heavy with point defense and energy mounts while still retaining a conventional sized missle load.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-08-29 07:32pm

Which is why I'm concentrating on the SD contingent, if I take out enough of them, the Battleships are rabbits shoved into the blender.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-08-29 08:06pm

Stormbringer wrote:The Asgard ships are the Odin-class. Essentially the IAN's Derflinger-class. They're four deckers (as opposed to the traditional three) so they're heavy with point defense and energy mounts while still retaining a conventional sized missle load.

Hm, but the IAS Derfflinger was a Seydlitz-class SD. And Seydlitzes are weak on energy mounts, and very light for SDs...
That's why I was confused.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-29 10:11pm

consequences wrote:Which is why I'm concentrating on the SD contingent, if I take out enough of them, the Battleships are rabbits shoved into the blender.

True enough. But that pre-supposes you'll be able to survive it.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-29 10:12pm

Dahak wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:The Asgard ships are the Odin-class. Essentially the IAN's Derflinger-class. They're four deckers (as opposed to the traditional three) so they're heavy with point defense and energy mounts while still retaining a conventional sized missle load.
Hm, but the IAS Derfflinger was a Seydlitz-class SD. And Seydlitzes are weak on energy mounts, and very light for SDs...
That's why I was confused.

Yeah, I only caught that after I posted my order of battle. Player's mistake.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-08-30 12:48am

True enough, but its the only real shot the Mazapani had. I also should have specified the timing of pod launch better, but that actually somewhat fits, as the Mazapani don't have the body of experience that the major powers do.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-08-30 05:10pm

What types of ships, and how many, would Phoenix likely have, Stomrbringer?