TheDarkling wrote:I was actually in on the debate and read it in its entirity and as you can see here the great majority say that they arent Laser because we see them and they dont move at C - I agree with both but using the FX fubs to says that the invisable portion moves at C and does the damage seems way off to me based on what I have seen.
Going by the poll on the other thread I think most people believe that its the bolt that does the damage and I agree, also I didnt use SB mocked him as my reasoning - I dont fall for that although it is common in many places that I could name.
Polls do not create fact.. If they did, the world would be less then ten thousand years old.
What is fact in SW is that damage is occasionally dealt before the beam hits and that there is a direct reference to this invisible portion(The Ep II ICS). There are also many references to lightspeed propagation of a TL, mostly in NJO.
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Time to choose - People who have a stiff upper lip and can pull off saying "Tally ho" or morons with no brains who cant say anything without first checking if its ok by a 2000 year old book.
TheDarkling wrote:I was actually in on the debate and read it in its entirity and as you can see here the great majority say that they arent Laser because we see them and they dont move at C - I agree with both but using the FX fubs to says that the invisable portion moves at C and does the damage seems way off to me based on what I have seen.
Going by the poll on the other thread I think most people believe that its the bolt that does the damage and I agree, also I didnt use SB mocked him as my reasoning - I dont fall for that although it is common in many places that I could name.
Part of the problem here, beyond the fact that polls aren't measures of fact s Nitram pointed out, is that the FX fubs are best rationalized in light of two additional pieces of evidence:
1) The AOTC:ICS which specifically states there is an invisible portion
2) Shadows of the Empire where Luke et all are hit by invisible weapons noticeable only for the ionized tracers.
Again I DO NOT agree with him that most of the energy is in the invisible portion, rather I think its variable base on distance to taget and total energy content. However there is almost certainly a non-visible lightspeed component and a visible plasma component.
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TheDarkling wrote:Hmm nice tactic if I prove you wrong you will set hordes of idiots upon me..... I have no choice..... so I shall simply fade from view.
The fundies are just sent to spread out the ignorance before it effects the wildlife.
MY GOD MAN, if we get any more moroncy around here, the rabbits will be eating the bears! SAVE US!
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Hey if you had played nice and paid the totally unfair taxes you would have been ok but you made your choice, just claim you cant stand the religious persecution (that is persecution by the religious) and seek shelter in he UK - you will get in trust me
TheDarkling wrote:In the UK there are rabbits that eat grass....... well ok its not that impressive.
I dunno its more impressive than most super-newbies' logic skills.
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TheDarkling wrote:I dont know Im always impressed by just how idiotic some people can be
Me too
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CmdrWilkens wrote:....Sure it is an EM wave of some sort but since it is invisible it can't be a laser which occurs only in the visible spectrum....
It's that time again, kiddies...
Energy weapons fire invisible energy beams at lightspeed. The visible "bolt"
is a glowing pulse that travels along the beam at less than lightspeed...The
light given off by visible bolts depletes the overall energy content of a
beam, limiting its range. Turbolasers gain a longer range by spinning the
energy beam, which reduces waste glow.
CmdrWilkens wrote:....Sure it is an EM wave of some sort but since it is invisible it can't be a laser which occurs only in the visible spectrum....
It's that time again, kiddies...
Energy weapons fire invisible energy beams at lightspeed. The visible "bolt"
is a glowing pulse that travels along the beam at less than lightspeed...The
light given off by visible bolts depletes the overall energy content of a
beam, limiting its range. Turbolasers gain a longer range by spinning the
energy beam, which reduces waste glow.
Nowhere does it mention electromagnetism.
What would you ascribe it to then? It is an energy beam of some type and EM is the most likely candidate, especially given the use of EM components in the firing process of blasters along with the use of focusing lenes as per SWVD. In other words what kind of beam carries the energy?
I claim EM since it makes the most amount of sense and has the support of evidence other than AOTC:ICS. That source just confirmed the beam's existence and confirmed that it was not within the visible spectrum, there are other sources out there I can draw from.
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IG-88E wrote:In Forida, there are grasshoppers that eat rabbits....im not lying.
In New Zealand we have birds that demolish cars..I shit you not.
By flying into them??
No. they use their beaks
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but you made your choice, just claim you cant stand the religious persecution (that is persecution by the religious) and seek shelter in he UK - you will get in trust me 
