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Montcalm wrote:i don`t eat sushi i don`t think i`ll ever eat it,but here`s something that may make you appreciate it.
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LadyTevar wrote:Heaven help us, the Sushibars have finally invaded my state.

So.... what're they like? Is it worth going to try it, especially since all I know about Sushi is that it's raw fish served on rice or rolled into fancy little rings. I've had friends from out of state say that it's definately worth trying, but this lil' hillbilly's not spending her money on a meal she'll not finish. :wink:
Unlike Chi-food, Japanese is often overpriced and underfilling. You're better off finding recipes and making your own Sushi n stuff... it's not like you have to know how to cook ;)

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Looks like that stuff is most likely a bunch of french fries in a paper bowl and smothered with mayo and ketchup.

Also could be fries in some type of soup. One way or the other I would not touch it with a 10-foot pole unless a good bit of money was involved.
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well from the opinion of this California Mountian Hick, it's delicious *Spears fresh rainbow trout with claws* of course we werebears have known the goodness that is raw fish for a long time. :D
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First of all, there is alot of misconception about what exactly sushi entails. Sushi doesn't mean raw fish, it refers to vinegared and molded short grained rice, called su-meshi. You can get sushi that has no fish in it at all or with cooked fish or with prawns. Sushi is a very large category. Common sushi tends to involve a vegetable rolled in su-meshi and wrapped in nori (seaweed).

Sashimi is the raw fish, and it is quite good in my opinion. Very commonly, the fish used in sashimi meals is tuna (which varies depending on what cut of fish it is), salmon (again, varies on cuts), prawns, and a few other fish.

The flavor of the rice is quite subtle and the nori is generally tasteless. Fish is generally cool and smooth, and good with soy sauce (possibly labeled as shoyu, keep this in mind). Wasabi paste or sauce is very strong and has a bit of bite, so be weary of the green paste unless you are ready to be kicked in the tounge. Wasabi can be an aquired taste.

Also, you want your sushi to be on the expensive side. Sushi requires good quality and fresh materials and a little expense will go a long way.

If you are a sushi newbie, I suggest you order a sushi or sashimi platter and try stuff. Also, take the recommendation of your waiter. He or she will probably have a good idea what will match well with the American palette.
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Some sushi is made without fish, but shrimp or salmon eggs, there are also ones which are just rice and black sesame clumped in soybean curd(?). I don't know if they serve shrimp rolls (a bit like sushi, but bigger and has more stuff), but if they do it's also worth a try.

As for the sashimi dipping them in soybean sauce is ok. But with wasabi you have to be careful because it gives you an illusion of blowing fire outta your nostrils, plus a very very strong taste.
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I had my first ever sushi about a week ago (I'm a non fish eating vegetarian)
and I liked it- although eating it was farly messy (the portions were too big to eat at once, and what else can you do with chopstocks?)

It was a bit pricey, but worth it.
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I tried it in the army when I was in Hawaii, and I tried it in Japan. I honestly don't undestand why so many people seem to think it's so great. I don't like the taste of the seaweed it comes wrapped in, and I have always thought white rice, when unflavored with any other sort of seasoning, was both gluey and tasteless.

As for the uncooked fish that is usually wrapped up in this stuff... I'm in full agreement with SeaSkimmer - mankind began cooking food for a reason.

In fact, my month in Japan left me fully enlighted as to why Chinese restaurants may be found in even the smallest American towns, while Japanese bistros are comparatively much more rare.

Give me a nice grilled salmon steak with a bit of lemon, crab cakes (even if they are basically bugs), or a bowl of New England clam chowder, and you may keep your sushi and sashimi.
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sushi + wasabi = god

and it´s afordable if you make it yourself (it´s still expensive at least if you don´t live near some coast).
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Hyperion wrote:Looks like that stuff is most likely a bunch of french fries in a paper bowl and smothered with mayo and ketchup.

Also could be fries in some type of soup. One way or the other I would not touch it with a 10-foot pole unless a good bit of money was involved.
The stuff is made with french fries,sauce and cheese.
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The 'souce' our French Canadian friend refers to is gravey. Poutine is French Fries smothered in gravey and cheese (cheese curds traditionally I believe) and sits in your stomach like a brick.
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Gil Hamilton wrote:Also, you want your sushi to be on the expensive side. Sushi requires good quality and fresh materials and a little expense will go a long way.
There's a sushi bar near my house within walking distance ... the sushi there is wonderful, but it is expensive. Normally I must content myself with the cheap 'Tsunami Sushi' platters the school and most grocers.
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Perinquus wrote:I tried it in the army when I was in Hawaii, and I tried it in Japan. I honestly don't undestand why so many people seem to think it's so great. I don't like the taste of the seaweed it comes wrapped in, and I have always thought white rice, when unflavored with any other sort of seasoning, was both gluey and tasteless.
Bah, I like plain white rice :D
Give me a nice grilled salmon steak with a bit of lemon, crab cakes (even if they are basically bugs), or a bowl of New England clam chowder, and you may keep your sushi and sashimi.
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the first time i had sushi i made sure to have quite a bit of hot saki first. aftter 2 of those little pitcher things of saki, i didn't give fuck what i ate. It's a good thing because i have developed quite a taste for sushi and sashimi. unagi and avacado rolls (dragon roll) are my favorite, but i can eat just about anything now at the japanses restaraunts that are opening up all over the place now.
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LadyTevar wrote:Heaven help us, the Sushibars have finally invaded my state.

So.... what're they like? Is it worth going to try it, especially since all I know about Sushi is that it's raw fish served on rice or rolled into fancy little rings. I've had friends from out of state say that it's definately worth trying, but this lil' hillbilly's not spending her money on a meal she'll not finish. :wink:
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Okay, I've got a menu from the new store opening up, so can you Sushi-lovers give me an idea what's good for a newbie to try?
Rolled Sushi
Kappa maki
oshinko maki
tekka maki
Salmon maki
Green Maki
Veggie Roll
California Roll
Salmon Skin Roll
Spicy Tuna Roll
Scallop Roll
Spicy Scallop Roll
Negitoro Roll
Dynamite roll
Double Dynmaite Roll
Yam Roll
Unakyu Roll
Futo Maki
Dragon's Eye Roll
I kinda figured these are the ones rolled in rice and wrapped with seaweed. Prices range from $3-$6.50 a serving, but it doesn't say how big a serving is.
Nigiri Sushi (2 pieces per order)
Avocado
Asparagus
Tamago
Inari
Maguro
Sake (Salmon?)
Ebi
Ika
Saba
masago
Tako
Toro
Spicy Scallop
Ama Ebi
Unagi
Hamachi
This is the formed fingers of sushi, right? With the fish laid over the rice? Anyway, prices for the 2 piece serving range from $2.75-$4.50.

The store also offers Sashimi ($9-$16 for eight pieces, $20-$30 for 'Chef's Creations') as well as Sushi Donburi. I'm guessing that's just sashimi laid over a bed of rice from the description, yes?
There's also Combinationi Sushi (served with Miso Soup). Seems to be a mix of Rolled and Nigiri on a platter. Prices range from $9-$20 for these, and most have 12-16 servings.

What's funny is that it's also a full Chinese Restaurant as well. The front of the menu is Japanese offerings (Tempura, Donduri, Noodles, Soba, and the Sushi), the back is all Chinese. They've also got coupons for 30% off all menu items until 9/20 for their Grand Opening.
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SUSHI RULES!!

HAMACHI IS THE BEST!!
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Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:But with wasabi you have to be careful because it gives you an illusion of blowing fire outta your nostrils, plus a very very strong taste.
That's the point of them offering you pickled ginger and water: to knock out the flavor after you're sick of it, ahem, "cleansing the palate".

Perinquus wrote:I tried it in the army when I was in Hawaii, and I tried it in Japan. I honestly don't undestand why so many people seem to think it's so great. I don't like the taste of the seaweed it comes wrapped in, and I have always thought white rice, when unflavored with any other sort of seasoning, was both gluey and tasteless.

As for the uncooked fish that is usually wrapped up in this stuff... I'm in full agreement with SeaSkimmer - mankind began cooking food for a reason.
It's the "exotic" nature of the cuisine: the look, feel, and the fact that it's not cooked that seems to appeal to people. As for the "gluey and tasteless" white rice, isn't that what the soy sauce and the wasabi are for? And I thought the seaweed was supposed to be taste-less?
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Perinquus wrote:I tried it in the army when I was in Hawaii, and I tried it in Japan. I honestly don't undestand why so many people seem to think it's so great. I don't like the taste of the seaweed it comes wrapped in, and I have always thought white rice, when unflavored with any other sort of seasoning, was both gluey and tasteless.

As for the uncooked fish that is usually wrapped up in this stuff... I'm in full agreement with SeaSkimmer - mankind began cooking food for a reason.
It's the "exotic" nature of the cuisine: the look, feel, and the fact that it's not cooked that seems to appeal to people. As for the "gluey and tasteless" white rice, isn't that what the soy sauce and the wasabi are for? And I thought the seaweed was supposed to be taste-less?
I can taste the seaweed. I was not impressed. As for soy sauce and wasabi... the soy sauce might make the stuff slightly better, but never having developed a taste for spicy hot foods, wasabi is out. I suppose I have a more tender mouth than some, but it is simply not enjoyabe to me to try and eat something with what feels like a chemical burn in my mouth. I little bit of spicyness if fine, but as far as I am concerned, too much is worse than none at all.

As far as I am concerned, Commodore Perry passed the appropriate judgement on Japanese food when he first opened the island up to American trade back in 1853; he felt their cuisine was "deserving of no very great praise."
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LadyTevar wrote:Okay, I've got a menu from the new store opening up, so can you Sushi-lovers give me an idea what's good for a newbie to try?



I kinda figured these are the ones rolled in rice and wrapped with seaweed. Prices range from $3-$6.50 a serving, but it doesn't say how big a serving is.
A roll is usually six pieces.

As for my taste in sushi, nothing beats eel(unagi) with a bit of wasabi.
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Montcalm wrote:
The stuff is made with french fries,sauce and cheese.

Chili-Cheese Fries forever!
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Hmm...

Who else here likes onigiri? I loved the salmon and shrimp ones that I could get in Japan, but it was hard to tell which was which, since every different conbini has their own labels. :P
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I don't think I'd trust sushi or sashimi where I live. When I look out my window, the nearest coastline is 1000 miles away. There isn't any way that there'd be any fresh fish around here that wasn't rainbow trout or smallmouth bass. And I'm pretty sure they don't make sushi out of that.
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Curse you DP. Some of that sushi is some stuff I've heard tell of but you can't get it in the US because it doesn't travel. I do like onigiri and have attempted to make it myself, though it didn't turn out well.
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