Movies and tv show screw-up

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-09-01 02:21pm

This thread is for listing the movies and tv shows where the military airplanes and helicopters are not the type mentioned,i`ll start.

Top Guns: trying to pass F-5 for Mig 29.
Iron Eagle: same thing using Mirage.

Next.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-09-01 02:23pm

Top Gun: Migs carry Exocet missiles.
Magnum PI: F-4 Phantom's are portrayed as MIG's.

Not exactly the same topic, but dont forget the numerous WWII movies of the 60's and 70's where German Panzers where M-48 or M-60 tanks with Iron Crosses painted on the side.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-09-01 02:25pm

Montcalm wrote:This thread is for listing the movies and tv shows where the military airplanes and helicopters are not the type mentioned,i`ll start.

Top Guns: trying to pass F-5 for Mig 29.
Iron Eagle: same thing using Mirage.

Next.

Iron Eagle 2 tried passing off F4s as Migs. Iron Eagle 3 (or was it 4?) tried passing off F5s on the ground as F16s on the ground.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-09-01 02:25pm

Alyeska wrote:Iron Eagle 2 was the worst. For some reason US Airforce pilots thought F4s were Migs, and for some reason the Russians got a hold of F4s and decided to claim they built them as Migs...

I think all of the planes for that Iron Eagle movie were provided by the Israeli airforce which is why there were only F-16s and F-4s.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-09-01 02:27pm

In The Hunt for Red October the flight deck camera video of the F-14 crashing into the flight deck was not of an F-14.

That kind of annoyed me because there had to have been footage of an F-14 crashing that they could have used or at least faked better than that.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-09-01 02:28pm

Iron Eagle 3 they try to make us believe that an unknown type of airplane was a Me 262.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-01 02:29pm

Montcalm wrote:Top Guns: trying to pass F-5 for Mig 29.

Passing off a F-5 as a MiG-29?? WTF??

Anyone with a knowledge of aircraft can tell those aircraft apart - they bear none or little resemblance to each other. (not to mention the difference in size)

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-09-01 02:30pm

One of the reasons I can't watch J.A.G. is because of some of the liberties they take. IRC one where this super advanced computer controlled destroyer looked like something from our mothball fleet. Way too many visible guns for one thing.

The F-14 flying lawyer also bugs me. Not so much that he maintains his quals since lots of officers do stuff like that so they can keep getting flight pay etc... but that Harm seems to go on missions. Not necessarilly flying missions but he's a lawyer and he's going on covert missions.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-09-01 02:31pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Montcalm wrote:Top Guns: trying to pass F-5 for Mig 29.
Passing off a F-5 as a MiG-29?? WTF??

Anyone with a knowledge of aircraft can tell those aircraft apart - they bear none or little resemblance to each other. (not to mention the difference in size)

Well, you have to remember at the time they filmed the show using "real" aggressor aircraft. At least they could have said the F-5 was a Mig-21. That would be more reasonable.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-09-01 02:33pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Montcalm wrote:Top Guns: trying to pass F-5 for Mig 29.
Passing off a F-5 as a MiG-29?? WTF??

Anyone with a knowledge of aircraft can tell those aircraft apart - they bear none or little resemblance to each other. (not to mention the difference in size)

Actually I believe they called them Mig-28s a totally fictitional plane that was supposed to be the latest and greatest according to the film.

Once again they had to make do with what was available from the agressor squadrons. I understand that later the Top Gun school got some F-16s for the aggressor squadrons but they took such a beating from all of the dog fighting that they we grounded quite a lot because of microfractures.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-09-02 01:23pm

I watched about half of Patton on cable yesterday. They did a good job of making planes that resembled Ju-88's. I suppose they could have been real, this was filmed back when Warbirds were more common. Anyone know?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-09-02 01:28pm

I was just going to mention Patton. I believe that the tanks they use for the American side are called "Patton I's" but I'm not certain. Check imdb.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-02 01:37pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:I watched about half of Patton on cable yesterday. They did a good job of making planes that resembled Ju-88's. I suppose they could have been real, this was filmed back when Warbirds were more common. Anyone know?

I don't think so. There aren't a lot of German warbirds. More likely they're another aircraft mocked up to look like ju-88s.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-09-02 01:42pm

Irion Eagle III had P-38's and Zero's dogfighting F-4's and F-5's. I mean come on!

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-09-02 01:45pm

Stormbringer wrote:
TrailerParkJawa wrote:I watched about half of Patton on cable yesterday. They did a good job of making planes that resembled Ju-88's. I suppose they could have been real, this was filmed back when Warbirds were more common. Anyone know?
I don't think so. There aren't a lot of German warbirds. More likely they're another aircraft mocked up to look like ju-88s.

Your probably right, out side of a few in a museum Ive never seen a German Warbird in flying condition.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-09-02 01:50pm

Pearl Harbor: Trying to pass of Spruance-class destroyers as WW 2-era ships indicates a low respect for the audience's historical knowledge. That really annoyed me.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-09-02 02:01pm

3rd Impact wrote:Pearl Harbor: Trying to pass of Spruance-class destroyers as WW 2-era ships indicates a low respect for the audience's historical knowledge. That really annoyed me.

Okay, now I am really glad I've never seen that movie.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-09-02 02:05pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:I was just going to mention Patton. I believe that the tanks they use for the American side are called "Patton I's" but I'm not certain. Check imdb.

I thought they used Pershings...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-02 02:09pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:Your probably right, out side of a few in a museum Ive never seen a German Warbird in flying condition.

Neither have I. There are some, put they're fairly rare.

The Third Man · Post by **The Third Man** » 2003-09-02 02:54pm

Rambo First Blood Part (I forget. The one where he was in Afghanistan). Aerospatiale Puma passed off as a Soviet helicopter. And a pile of burning plywood passed off as the same thing after being shot down.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-09-02 03:13pm

The Third Man wrote:Rambo First Blood Part (I forget. The one where he was in Afghanistan). Aerospatiale Puma passed off as a Soviet helicopter. And a pile of burning plywood passed off as the same thing after being shot down.

Rambo III

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-02 03:18pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:
Not exactly the same topic, but dont forget the numerous WWII movies of the 60's and 70's where German Panzers where M-48 or M-60 tanks with Iron Crosses painted on the side.

A Bridge to Far used a modified Leopold 1 as their WW2 German tank, and a couple M109A2's shown briefly with nothing but a paint job as German WW2 SPG's. T-34's have been passed off as WW2 German tanks as well, though that's slightly acceptable since the Germans did use captured models, but only on the Eastern front.

Rambo III also had a French Gazelle passed of as a Soviet helicopter without modifications.

AT-6's where modified to look like several different Japanese aircraft for Tora Tora Tora

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-09-02 03:31pm

Stormbringer wrote:
TrailerParkJawa wrote:Your probably right, out side of a few in a museum Ive never seen a German Warbird in flying condition.
Neither have I. There are some, put they're fairly rare.

The planes in Patton were Spanish built He 111s. The organisiation formerly known as The Confederate Air Force recently crashed the last flying example here in Arizona, killing the crew of two. It was a former personal transport of Gen. Franco, and appeared in Patton, as well as The Battle of Britain.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-02 05:06pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
TrailerParkJawa wrote:Your probably right, out side of a few in a museum Ive never seen a German Warbird in flying condition.
Neither have I. There are some, put they're fairly rare.
The planes in Patton were Spanish built He 111s. The organisiation formerly known as The Confederate Air Force recently crashed the last flying example here in Arizona, killing the crew of two. It was a former personal transport of Gen. Franco, and appeared in Patton, as well as The Battle of Britain.

Well when they filmed The Battle of Britain the Spanish didn't exactly have a shortage of them, 47 being used for the inspections scenes and for a few shots of large German formations. Though they only flew two to England for the air combat which I think was really very limiting to some shots. Especially since German bombers flew in trios.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-09-02 05:14pm

Does anyone foresee a time in the future when some WWII militray equipment might be CGI'd for real accuracy (particualrly planes I assume) As the technology improves we might see CGI hordes of T-34's charging through a snowy tundra at emplaced German positions. Or am I just dreaming? I can see some studio exec going "A tank's a tank, who's going to know the difference?"

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