Best political lobby ever

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-09-02 12:58am

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-09-02 01:10am

They've got a point. Metric is fine and dandy, but I'd scream too if some commission in Brussels told me I'm not allowed to use inches, pounds, and degrees Farenheit in my own business (assuming this site isn't exaggerating what's actually going on).

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-09-02 02:12am

Worst lobby ever. These luddites need to be taken out the back and shot. Nothing can stop the glorious march of the metric system.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-02 02:30am

I'm of a mixed mind. For one thing, the English system is really outdated and not used much anymore, but on the other hand, large amount of our industry is in the English system and it would be economically unfeasible to change industry to metric, or America would be using metric by now.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-09-02 02:57am

Link the second
Link the third

For variety:
U.S. Metric association

re: Vympel

You are perhaps misusing the term "Luddite"? There is no technological difference between the two systems.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-02 03:03am

Gil Hamilton wrote:I'm of a mixed mind. For one thing, the English system is really outdated and not used much anymore, but on the other hand, large amount of our industry is in the English system and it would be economically unfeasible to change industry to metric, or America would be using metric by now.

On what basis do you think tha such a change is not economic? NZ has done it, so has Australia. Its accurate and easy to learn an..oh wait the US and learning..sorry, my bad

Post by **Edi** » 2003-09-02 03:30am

RedImperator wrote:They've got a point. Metric is fine and dandy, but I'd scream too if some commission in Brussels told me I'm not allowed to use inches, pounds, and degrees Farenheit in my own business (assuming this site isn't exaggerating what's actually going on).

I don't see a problem with double labeling, if a shift to metric is required. Those who want to keep the old system alongside the metric can do so, their choice. It's exactly the way we handled the shift from FIM to €, and some places still have the old FIM prices listed, though those are gradually vanishing. If they want to prevent using double labeling, that's stupid.

Edi

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-09-02 03:31am

Vympel wrote:Worst lobby ever. These luddites need to be taken out the back and shot. Nothing can stop the glorious march of the metric system.

Just wait. If we succeed at nothing else in Iraq, we shall succeed at getting the new government there to adopt the English system of measurement!

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-02 03:37am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Vympel wrote:Worst lobby ever. These luddites need to be taken out the back and shot. Nothing can stop the glorious march of the metric system.
Just wait. If we succeed at nothing else in Iraq, we shall succeed at getting the new government there to adopt the English system of measurement!

Which will fail in Iraq, just like the English

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-09-02 03:44am

Stuart Mackey wrote: Which will fail in Iraq, just like the English

Never! Tradition and convenience shall triumph over conformity, you mindless metric zombie! The American Empire will spread the Glory and the Rightness of the English System for All to Enjoy!

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-02 03:49am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote: Which will fail in Iraq, just like the English
Never! Tradition and convenience shall triumph over conformity, you mindless metric zombie! The American Empire will spread the Glory and the Rightness of the English System for All to Enjoy!

Ohh! Look! a setting sun !

Tatterdemalion · Post by **Tatterdemalion** » 2003-09-02 05:43am

[quote="The Duchess of Zeon" Never! Tradition and convenience shall triumph over conformity, you mindless metric zombie! The American Empire will spread the Glory and the Rightness of the English System for All to Enjoy!

[/quote]

How many stones are there in a pound again? 10? 50? 100? 200? How can anyone call the Imperial system convenient?

-Is proud conformist zombie of the vast evil-liberal-facist-commie-conservative-pinko-hippie-metric conspiricy.

Perinquus · Post by **Perinquus** » 2003-09-02 07:51am

Tatterdemalion wrote:How many stones are there in a pound again? 10? 50? 100? 200? How can anyone call the Imperial system convenient?

-Is proud conformist zombie of the vast evil-liberal-facist-commie-conservative-pinko-hippie-metric conspiricy.

Actually, it's fourteen pounds equals one stone. (And I'm not even English.)

The Third Man · Post by **The Third Man** » 2003-09-02 09:08am

How many stones are there in a pound again? 10? 50? 100? 200?

Too easy! What about how many fluid ounces in a gill?

Or in a gallon?

And would that be a US gallon (which I see you Americans call a 'British' gallon) or the gallon which we use in Britain (which we Britons call an Imperial gallon).

And how many stones would that quantity of water weigh? (It's so much easier one 1ml of H20 = 1g)

And are these people therefore advocating that, because its got more factors, we in the UK should revert to our previous currency? Pounds, shillings, pence that is? For those who don't know it was 12 shillings to a pound, god-only-knows how many farthings to a sovereign(sp?), and I believe groats, h'appennies and thruppeny bits were all in on the act.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-09-02 09:22am

The Third Man wrote:
How many stones are there in a pound again? 10? 50? 100? 200?
Too easy! What about how many fluid ounces in a gill?

Or in a gallon?

Fluid ounces in a gallon: 1 gal = 4 qt = 8 pt = 16 c = 128 fl oz.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-09-02 09:27am

The Third Man wrote:For those who don't know it was 12 shillings to a pound

No it wasn't

Tatterdemalion · Post by **Tatterdemalion** » 2003-09-02 09:29am

[/quote]Actually, it's fourteen pounds equals one stone. (And I'm not even English.)[/quote]

My pitiful mistake only proves my point. Or possibly my stupidity, I forget.

The Third Man wrote:
Too easy! What about how many fluid ounces in a gill?

Or in a gallon?

And would that be a US gallon (which I see you Americans call a 'British' gallon) or the gallon which we use in Britain (which we Britons call an Imperial gallon).

And how many stones would that quantity of water weigh? (It's so much easier one 1ml of H20 = 1g)

And are these people therefore advocating that, because its got more factors, we in the UK should revert to our previous currency? Pounds, shillings, pence that is? For those who don't know it was 12 shillings to a pound, god-only-knows how many farthings to a sovereign(sp?), and I believe groats, h'appennies and thruppeny bits were all in on the act.

Imperial makes my brain hurt. IN anycase the whole movement sounds like some backwater conservative club from Toryville, Middle-of-friggin-nowhere-somewhere-down-south.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-02 10:38am

Who controls the British crown, who keeps the metric system down?

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-02 10:51am

Stuart Mackey wrote:On what basis do you think tha such a change is not economic? NZ has done it, so has Australia. Its accurate and easy to learn an..oh wait the US and learning..sorry, my bad

Well, they are teaching both English and metric now in schools here, but the economic problem is that all our machinery is labelled in English system exclusively and is extensive enough that they can't just round everything up and relabel it. The change to metric will be gradual, as more and more new industrial tools and equipment will be labeled in both, and then eventually in metric. The change will be gradual in our schools too.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-02 10:57am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: Never! Tradition and convenience shall triumph over conformity, you mindless metric zombie! The American Empire will spread the Glory and the Rightness of the English System for All to Enjoy!

*slap*
Snap out of it, woman! The English system is dying, and good riddens too! You will learn to love the the Système International and you will be one of us evolved individuals who enjoys a universial system of measures that are Base 10, like our mathematics. You will be one of us.

One of us... one of us... one of us...

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-09-02 01:08pm

English system forever you you you Frenchman

The Third Man · Post by **The Third Man** » 2003-09-02 02:23pm

Xisiqomelir wrote: No it wasn't

Quite right. That's supposed to be 12 pennies to a shilling, twenty shillings to a pound. And I think it was twenty-one shillings in a guinea, right? The guinea being an archaic unit even in 1970 but still in use at that time by the horse trade? Don't ask me about florins and farthings though.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-02 02:39pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Never! Tradition and convenience shall triumph over conformity, you mindless metric zombie! The American Empire will spread the Glory and the Rightness of the English System for All to Enjoy!

The great bastions of Liberia and Burma stand firm with us. Dead to metric!

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2003-09-02 03:46pm

Who controls the British crown, who keeps the metric system down?

Who rigs every Oscar night?

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-09-02 06:52pm

Down with the metric system! And down with soccer!!!