5 Questions

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2003-09-02 12:59pm

If you could ask 5 questions of someone who worked for Lucasfilm about the canon policy of Star Wars, what would they be?

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-09-02 01:37pm

None they explain canon policy if you have the good sence to read what they say.

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2003-09-02 03:15pm

Don't you think it's a little bit haughty to claim you couldn't learn anything insightful from having a free 5 question Q and A with a Lucasfilm source, regardless of the validity of your stance based on the information you have now?

Even in a position of complete correctness, a wiser person would use such an opportunity to further solidify their argument, it would be foolish to ignore it.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-09-02 03:35pm

The canon policy is clearly defined, Marc. It has been for years, and every single new quote about it confirms our understanding of it that we've HELD for years.

Ok, that aid, here's a few questions:

1) Can we please ignore the Jedi Academy trilogy, Darksaber, The Crystal Star, The New Rebellion, and most of the New Jedi Order?

greenmm · Post by **greenmm** » 2003-09-02 04:17pm

Lord Poe wrote:The canon policy is clearly defined, Marc. It has been for years, and every single new quote about it confirms our understanding of it that we've HELD for years.

Ok, that aid, here's a few questions:

1) Can we please ignore the Jedi Academy trilogy, Darksaber, The Crystal Star, The New Rebellion, and most of the New Jedi Order?

2. How does Lucas and Lucasfilm rate the 1st Han and the Lando trilogies, as well as Splinter of the Mind's Eye, in relation to the other EU novels?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-09-02 04:35pm

Can we declare the Glove of Darth Vader series apocryphal?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-09-02 04:39pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Can we declare the Glove of Darth Vader series apocryphal?

I thought for the most part it already was...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-02 04:43pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Can we declare the Glove of Darth Vader series apocryphal?

I believe that and some of the other old novels have been struck from continuty.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-09-02 04:44pm

Everyone who says that, never can find a shred of proof. Its just like that "GL is going to make all the Stormies CGI and Jango clones" which is never shown anywhere either.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-09-02 05:41pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Everyone who says that, never can find a shred of proof. Its just like that "GL is going to make all the Stormies CGI and Jango clones" which is never shown anywhere either.

Oh, so the fact that they're evil in their stupidity isn't good enough for you?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-09-02 05:45pm

I guess just for laughs I'd ask "Yes or no: is the Ep2ICS canon?"

Cause that would give some of our buddies a little less wiggle room. I think its perfectly clear already, but it would not hurt to have it said in a more clearcut manner.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-09-02 05:48pm

The canon policey is pretty damn explicet. You really can't do much more to change it without some highly deceptive questions.

I'd rather ask things like "Which ones are GLs favorites?", "How was Saxton selected" (also insert Denning and Zahn for that), "Who is incharge of the technical continuity (EG Executors length)?"

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-09-02 05:50pm

Stormbringer wrote:I believe that and some of the other old novels have been struck from continuty.

If only. But, to this day, none of the EU material read that didn't belong to Star Wars Tales or had the "Infinities" label has been made apocryphal. Although some material had been taken in and retconned by LFL after the events of AOTC (much of Boba Fett's history, for one).

Anyways, I'd be pretty straight forward with my questions:

Are the Incredible Cross-Sections series' canon?
Are any other EU novels/sourcebooks canon?
If not, why?

That's about it.

greenmm · Post by **greenmm** » 2003-09-02 05:56pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Can we declare the Glove of Darth Vader series apocryphal?
I believe that and some of the other old novels have been struck from continuty.

Glove of Darth Vader?

I thought I knew all the old SW novels, but I've never heard of that one.

*quick Yahoo! search*

Hmmm... a SW novel from 1987 that I've never heard of... and based on the date, apparantly predates Heir to the Empire...

"Fascinating."

Apparantly, though, my local library only has the 1992 comic adaptation...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-02 07:56pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:I believe that and some of the other old novels have been struck from continuty.
If only. But, to this day, none of the EU material read that didn't belong to Star Wars Tales or had the "Infinities" label has been made apocryphal. Although some material had been taken in and retconned by LFL after the events of AOTC (much of Boba Fett's history, for one).

Some of the Tales have been given official status. At least those that made it into the books are official I believe though they are contradictory.

Yes, some of the older one have effectively been struck down simply by ignoring them and essentially re-writing the EU over them.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-09-02 09:55pm

greenmm wrote:

Glove of Darth Vader?

I thought I knew all the old SW novels, but I've never heard of that one.

Apparently there's some group of novels that say that Luke's severed hand was recovered and used for some weird experiment, and that after Vader's death, they managed to research the magic glove he used to deflect Han Solo's blaster shots. The story goes to say something about putting Luke's hand in Vader's glove, you'll have a new superweapon of devastating proportions.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-09-02 10:47pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
greenmm wrote:

Glove of Darth Vader?

I thought I knew all the old SW novels, but I've never heard of that one.
Apparently there's some group of novels that say that Luke's severed hand was recovered and used for some weird experiment, and that after Vader's death, they managed to research the magic glove he used to deflect Han Solo's blaster shots. The story goes to say something about putting Luke's hand in Vader's glove, you'll have a new superweapon of devastating proportions.

It was a kids story that I brought up some time ago as disagreeing with Truce at Bakura about how Han and Leia got married.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-09-02 11:03pm

Having read it, I'll correct: The glove was soughtt out by a power-crazed mutant posing as the Emperor's son, trying to use it to claim the Force Choke of Vader and the right to the throne. Of course, the power isn't part of the glove(duh), but some tech tricks allow him to fake it..

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-09-03 01:51am

Slartibartfast wrote:
greenmm wrote:

Glove of Darth Vader?

I thought I knew all the old SW novels, but I've never heard of that one.
Apparently there's some group of novels that say that Luke's severed hand was recovered and used for some weird experiment, and that after Vader's death, they managed to research the magic glove he used to deflect Han Solo's blaster shots. The story goes to say something about putting Luke's hand in Vader's glove, you'll have a new superweapon of devastating proportions.

That's um...fucked up.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-09-03 03:04am

Slartibartfast wrote:
greenmm wrote:

Glove of Darth Vader?

I thought I knew all the old SW novels, but I've never heard of that one.
Apparently there's some group of novels that say that Luke's severed hand was recovered and used for some weird experiment, and that after Vader's death, they managed to research the magic glove he used to deflect Han Solo's blaster shots. The story goes to say something about putting Luke's hand in Vader's glove, you'll have a new superweapon of devastating proportions.

Except that Vader didn't deflect the bolts. He absorbed them. Wayne has evidence of this on his site.

And lets not forget that Luke's "hand" was inm the Emperor's private Storehouse with the lightsaber (which C'Baoth used to make a clone of Luke in TLC.)

Basically we are seeing some exaggeration/outright lying, and this appears to be consistent with what Nitram mentioned.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-09-03 04:44am

Marc Xavier wrote:If you could ask 5 questions of someone who worked for Lucasfilm about the canon policy of Star Wars, what would they be?

I dunno, I've got so many other more interesting questions to ask them.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-09-03 10:35am

Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:I believe that and some of the other old novels have been struck from continuty.
If only. But, to this day, none of the EU material read that didn't belong to Star Wars Tales or had the "Infinities" label has been made apocryphal. Although some material had been taken in and retconned by LFL after the events of AOTC (much of Boba Fett's history, for one).
Some of the Tales have been given official status. At least those that made it into the books are official I believe though they are contradictory.

Yes. I'm thinking a good term for tales would be "provisional apocropya". They don't count for references, but they are good for ideas because a number are later confirmed in other sources.

I think of them like Urban legends of SW myself.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-09-03 04:55pm

"Can you please have George Lucas appear on-screen before the beginning of Episode III and make a statement about how ICS is canon, ending with "So in short, Mr., and I use that term loosely, Robert Scott Anderson, you are wrong. Dead wrong. Curl up in a corner and die."?"

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2003-09-04 11:27am

SirNitram wrote:Having read it, I'll correct: The glove was soughtt out by a power-crazed mutant posing as the Emperor's son, trying to use it to claim the Force Choke of Vader and the right to the throne. Of course, the power isn't part of the glove(duh), but some tech tricks allow him to fake it..

I should note that if the BTM CD location is accurate, then somewhere in that kid series is a quote that suggest that the MF can travel the galaxy in hours.

As for me, I would much rather ask this.
"Can you have a BDZ in Eps 3? Or something like a BDZ is the ........................."

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2003-09-05 11:24pm

Personally I wouldnt mind seeing a planetary bombardment in Episode III. But from what I understand, this will be a post clone wars thing, so if we're ever gonna see a BDZ, it's probably going to be on that Cartoon Network series thing...

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