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Another piece of 'fair and balanced' idiocy

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Here's Brit Humes cute little moron theory (August 27):
California Roughly Same Size As Iraq

Two hundred and seventy seven U.S. soldiers have now died in Iraq, which means that, statistically speaking, U.S. soldiers have less of a chance of dying from all causes in Iraq than citizens have of being murdered in California…which is roughly the same geographical size. The most recent statistics indicate California has more than 2,300 homicides each year, which means about 6.6 murders each day. Meanwhile, U.S. troops have been in Iraq for 160 days, which means they are incurring about 1.7, including illness and accidents, each day.
Now, can anyone spot the problem with this idiot's reasoning?

(Furthermore, Don Rumsfeld also made the same sort of insensitive fuckwit comment back in June- showing once again that if FNC isn't a megaphone official views, then great minds certainly think alike ...)
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Re: Another piece of 'fair and balanced' idiocy

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Vympel wrote:
Now, can anyone spot the problem with this idiot's reasoning?


I know! I Know! Its that the state has over 30 million people in it while US troops in Iraq total less then 150,000
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Christ, thats the dumbest thing I've ever read.
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The man's a paradox, he's got the intellect of a rock, but he can use the decimal point! :o
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I'm not sure they've thought their lines of bullshit through as thoroughly as they normally do. Obvious population questions aside, are they trying to say that California is more dangerous place to be then a warzone? I doubt very much that trying to freak out the people that live in or are thinking of visiting a major state when you're trying to fix your economy is a good thing.
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They forgot the civilian victims of crime in Iraq.

I bet, that would fuck up their statistic even more.
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Surely nobody can be that stupid. I spotted the flaw in that statement immediatly, so a five year-old as well.
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Did'nt you all know how dangerous California is? Almost every day I have to worry about remote detonated mines when driving to Safeway for my deli sandwhich. :roll:
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TrailerParkJawa wrote:Did'nt you all know how dangerous California is? Almost every day I have to worry about remote detonated mines when driving to Safeway for my deli sandwhich. :roll:
And if those don't get ya, the meat in the deli sandwhichs will. :D
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Post by Sea Skimmer »

Here's something else, and far more sensible, on the subject.

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Iraq is safer for some than Washington, DC
Eleanor Holmes Norton, Washington DC's non-voting delegate in the House of Representatives never wanted the United States to use its military to liberate Iraq because

Today we have a volunteer army whose race and class composition speaks to the absence of equal opportunity in civilian society. The middle and upper classes, for the most part, no longer serve and will not be on the front lines. African Americans are 25% of the U.S. Army, Hispanics are 9%, an army more than one third of whom are people of color.
[aside: Hispanics are 12.5% of the U.S. population, so they're actually underrepresented in the military] Others have made similar claims that minorities are bearing a disproportionate share of casualties in Iraq.

It appears, however, that young African American men from Washington, DC might be safer going to war than staying at home.

According to this week's story from Scripps Howard News Service, there are 140,000 troops in Iraq, and there have been 286 fatalities from all causes since the war began in March (about 24 weeks ago). That gives us an annualized death rate of 443 per 100,000. Only about half of these deaths (147) were in combat, for a combat death rate of 228 per 100,000.

According to Center for Disease Control / National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, there were 21,836 young black men (age 18-30) in Washington DC in 2000, the latest year that mortality data is available. The total number of deaths in this group from all causes was 132, with 95 homicides. i.e. the death rate for this group was 604 per 100,000 and the murder rate was 435 per 100,000.

In other words, a young black male soldier from Washington DC would have been 36% more likely to die by staying at home than by serving in active duty in the Iraq war, and almost twice as likely to be murdered at home than to be killed in combat. Yes, that's horribly sad, but it puts a few things in perspective.

Meanwhile, what is Eleanor Holmes Norton doing to save the lives of the young men in her district who would be better off going to war than staying at home? She is fighting against school choice. Yeah, that'll do it.



As we can see Washington DC's gun ban and police force sure have done a good job making the place safe. Its nearly as safe as a war zone. :lol:
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Post by Nathan F »

Heheh, nice stats there, Skimmer.
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Post by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi »

Nathan F wrote:Heheh, nice stats there, Skimmer.
I'd agree. Makes more sense than pointing to how their are fewer murders a day in Iraq, and assuming that the two are equal because of geographical size instead of population. (If Sea Akimmer's statistics are correct, the population of California is 200 times greater than the population of US troops in Iraq).
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Well, duh.
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