Crazy fuck on CNN

[kojikun]

Just felt like mentioning how some nutcase priest was on CNN justifying murder of an abortion clinic doctor (because it was gods will) and the interviewer was really great in debating him. Nothing heavy, no big debating, but definitely got the priest to fuck up a bit. When the priest brought out the "god has a plan for everyone" arguement, I was hoping to see the interviewer ask "If god has a plan for everyone, and that includes murdering people, then wouldn't the ABORTIONS be part of gods plan, or is murder only part of gods plan if YOU, Mr. Priest, agree with it?".

CNN -- Doing a little every day to fuck with fundies..

[EmperorMing]

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CNN -- Doing a little every day to fuck with fundies..

I love it.

Just wish they would do it more often...


And as for the priest, well it has already been established that some of them have problems...

[Darth Wong]

Come on people, isn't it obvious? Priests violently oppose abortion because it reduces the supply of fresh altar boys.

[Nathan F]

Come on people, isn't it obvious? Priests violently oppose abortion because it reduces the supply of fresh altar boys.

Oh...Mike...that is sick and wrong....

[Montcalm]

Come on people, isn't it obvious? Priests violently oppose abortion because it reduces the supply of fresh altar boys.

Oh...Mike...that is sick and wrong....

Maybe but its true....damn catholic church.

[Howedar]

Need I point out how little child abuse actually took place, and how much hiding took place as a result? A fuckload more than should have, to be sure, but the cheap jokes certainly blow the issue into something larger than it is.

[Montcalm]

Need I point out how little child abuse actually took place, and how much hiding took place as a result? A fuckload more than should have, to be sure, but the cheap jokes certainly blow the issue into something larger than it is.

But they still are hipocrite,plus they spent centuries telling people sex outside marriage is wrong,while they were assraping children.

[Uther]

Need I point out how little child abuse actually took place, and how much hiding took place as a result? A fuckload more than should have, to be sure, but the cheap jokes certainly blow the issue into something larger than it is.

But they still are hipocrite,plus they spent centuries telling people sex outside marriage is wrong,while they were assraping children.

Yes, exactly! Preach on brother!

[Howedar]

Need I point out how little child abuse actually took place, and how much hiding took place as a result? A fuckload more than should have, to be sure, but the cheap jokes certainly blow the issue into something larger than it is.

But they still are hipocrite,plus they spent centuries telling people sex outside marriage is wrong,while they were assraping children.

People not perfect? Heaven forbid!

And I don't see any evidence this practice went on for hundreds of years. If nothing else, hundreds of years ago a man would be tarred and feathered for touching another guys's son.

[Darth Wong]

People not perfect? Heaven forbid!

Black/white fallacy. There is a world of difference between being slightly imperfect and raping little boys or covering for people who do so.

And I don't see any evidence this practice went on for hundreds of years. If nothing else, hundreds of years ago a man would be tarred and feathered for touching another guys's son.

Bullshit. Centuries ago, the church's power was even greater than it is now, and its ability to conceal its own sins greater too. Catholic school sexual abuse dates back many decades, and there is no reason whatsoever to think that anything has changed in such a manner as to make this crime suddenly become much more likely in the 20th century.

It is also noteworthy that Catholic Inquisitioners often reserved special tortures for womens' genitals; their history of sick sexual deviation is not confined to recent events. In any era, when you take men and tell them to be celibate forever, bad things will happen, and your predictable Catholic apologism will not change that.

[EmperorMing]

Come on people, isn't it obvious? Priests violently oppose abortion because it reduces the supply of fresh altar boys.

Bwuhahahaha!!! Well said!!

[Howedar]

Black/white fallacy. There is a world of difference between being slightly imperfect and raping little boys or covering for people who do so.

Of course. It is also fallicious to assume that because some priests in the Catholic church abuse young boys that all priests do, or that the entire RCC hierarchy would or did cover for priests who did so.

Bullshit. Centuries ago, the church's power was even greater than it is now, and its ability to conceal its own sins greater too. Catholic school sexual abuse dates back many decades, and there is no reason whatsoever to think that anything has changed in such a manner as to make this crime suddenly become much more likely in the 20th century.

I think people have gotten a hell of a lot more depraved in the last century or two, but thats probably just my cynicism talking.

It is also noteworthy that Catholic Inquisitioners often reserved special tortures for womens' genitals; their history of sick sexual deviation is not confined to recent events. In any era, when you take men and tell them to be celibate forever, bad things will happen, and your predictable Catholic apologism will not change that.

If you take men and force them to be celibate forever, some will do bad things. If you take men and don't force them to be celibate forever, some will still do bad things.

[Darth Wong]

Black/white fallacy. There is a world of difference between being slightly imperfect and raping little boys or covering for people who do so.

Of course. It is also fallicious to assume that because some priests in the Catholic church abuse young boys that all priests do, or that the entire RCC hierarchy would or did cover for priests who did so.

Wrong. It is not an assumption; it is a FACT. The recently released decades-old documents instructing the hierarchy to cover up these crimes are proof of that.

I think people have gotten a hell of a lot more depraved in the last century or two, but thats probably just my cynicism talking.

"Good old days" fallacy. I suggest you read your history books.

If you take men and force them to be celibate forever, some will do bad things. If you take men and don't force them to be celibate forever, some will still do bad things.

Don't waste my time with black/white fallacies. It's not an all-or-nothing situation; yes, neither situation produces a perfect world (oooooh, what an original line of defense for a Catholic apologst ), but forced celibacy will cause MORE problems than the default condition, and you know it.

[Howedar]

Black/white fallacy. There is a world of difference between being slightly imperfect and raping little boys or covering for people who do so.

Of course. It is also fallicious to assume that because some priests in the Catholic church abuse young boys that all priests do, or that the entire RCC hierarchy would or did cover for priests who did so.

Wrong. It is not an assumption; it is a FACT. The recently released decades-old documents instructing the hierarchy to cover up these crimes are proof of that.

It is a FACT that every official in the Roman Catholic Church knew about these instances? Wow, thats pretty shocking.

"Good old days" fallacy. I suggest you read your history books.

As I said, my cynicism talking. I didn't mean it as an argument, I know my own unsupported opinion on that point bears no weight.

Don't waste my time with black/white fallacies. It's not an all-or-nothing situation; yes, neither situation produces a perfect world (oooooh, what an original line of defense for a Catholic apologst ), but forced celibacy will cause MORE problems than the default condition, and you know it.

Which has precisely what to do with the issue at hand? I was talking about the issue being blown somewhat out of proportion; I was not defending the priests who molested children, or those who covered for them.

[Howedar]

You know what? I do not want to argue this point. I will not change your position, and you will not change mine.

If I leave now, you'll just say I wanted to get in the last word before I left.
If I leave after you post a rebuttal, you'll say that I was unable to deal with your argument, cried sour grapes, and left.

But I don't care. I have too much respect for you to want to get royally pissed off at you over a debate so silly as this one.

[LordShaithis]

Um... That one priest who was strangled to death molested, what? A hundred and fifty boys? All by himself?

"But Darth Wong, it's only a little molestation!"

What the fuck ever. The Roman Catholic Church is nothing but an archaic Dark Ages institution, a blight on humanity whose fading power and relevance bring me no end of joy.

[Darth Wong]

It is a FACT that every official in the Roman Catholic Church knew about these instances? Wow, thats pretty shocking.

Don't be a sophistic asshole. They didn't have to know about every SINGLE incident in order to have a policy of covering them up.

Which has precisely what to do with the issue at hand? I was talking about the issue being blown somewhat out of proportion; I was not defending the priests who molested children, or those who covered for them.

Then perhaps your idea of "proportion" for child molestation is different from ours.

[Montcalm]

I think people have gotten a hell of a lot more depraved in the last century or two, but thats probably just my cynicism talking.

People have not become more depraved,depravity has always been there,the fact is today it can`t be hidden or ignored.

and as for catholics yes all priest were not child molester but the majority knew and kept the silence,when a priest was caught they did not expelled him,they only moved the problem somewhere else.

By the way noone is forcing you to change you view,just remove the blindfold imposed by religion.

[Darth Gojira]

Need I point out how little child abuse actually took place, and how much hiding took place as a result? A fuckload more than should have, to be sure, but the cheap jokes certainly blow the issue into something larger than it is.

More like Watergate, really.

[Faram]

Read about a Priest up for execution today?

Is it that dumbfuck?

Sure hope so.

[Faram]

Forgot the pic: