Israel vs the Arabs

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-09-05 08:16am

If Israel went to war with all the Arabs who would win ? No anti-Israeli propoganda here please. I am looking for an accurate military analysis.
In this scenario only Israel and the Arabs fight. The rest of the world remains neutral.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-09-05 08:26am

Israel = nukes plus backing from the only world superpower at this time.

It's a massacre for the Arabs if the gloves come off, I can't see them doing anything other than one huge push that may just end nasty.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-09-05 08:37am

all of the Arabs? so we are talking Israel vs. Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Lybia, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, the UAE, Djbuti and Kuwait (i'm sure i missed a few)

First of all it won't happen. However in this scenerio Israel, (barring any US involvement) loses a war of attrition. There is just too much for the technologically superior Israeli Defence Forces to fight off. Even in its export form the M1-A1's from Egypt and Saudi Arabia present a formidable foe to Israel's Merkava's. They have several hundred each. Infantry pushing in from Syria Lebanon and Jordan supported by Saudi tanks and air support, an Egyptian armored push through the Suez region all supported, no doubt, by a massive popular palistinian uprising is just too much for Israel to bear. Sure, the might strike back with those non-existant nukes, but even if they hit troop formations and armored columns it won't be enough. If they nuke Arab cities they risk drawing the ire of sypathetic Pakistani Officers with access to nukes of their own. Long story short, Israel kicks ass, but is overwhelmed and falls.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-09-05 08:41am

Iranians are not Arabs; they're Persians.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-09-05 08:51am

BoredShirtless wrote:Iranians are not Arabs; they're Persians.

True but they consider themselves as a powerful player in the middle east. They would at the heart of any invasion of Israel by the Arabs.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-09-05 10:45am

This is so close to being in breach of the moratorium that it is not funny.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-09-05 10:51am

evilcat4000 wrote: No anti-Israeli propoganda here please.

Nice

An assumption, right off the top, that we have "anti-Isreal propaganda" here. So, now that you've got your cheap shot in...

To answer your question, Israel would crush all the arab countries, combined, ten times over.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-09-05 10:57am

Hamel wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote: No anti-Israeli propoganda here please.
Nice

An assumption, right off the top, that we have "anti-Isreal propaganda" here. So, now that you've got your cheap shot in...

To answer your question, Israel would crush all the arab countries, combined, ten times over.

Well, the main problem in Arab armies is a sense of machismo and rivalry, that prevents any real cooperation due to each one trying to get his own glory and undercut the rest, as well as a healthy fear of giving bad news to superiors. A nice example of this is what the Egyptian C-in-C said to Sadat when his Air Force got raped by the IAF. Instead of reporting the truth, he said that the USAF had destroyed them.

If they don't get past that, Israel's gonna win. Remember, these guys are teaching us urban warfare and guerrilla tactics. If the Arabs get over this hurdle, Israel gets killed in a pyrrhic victory (since everyone, and I mean everyone, is gonna fight that advance)

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-05 04:30pm

The Arabs are defeated. Worst comes to worst Jericho battalions one through five get launch orders and win the war in three minutes.

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2003-09-05 05:03pm

I've heard the phrase "fight like an Arab army" to describe militaries with piss poor training and discipline. Just extrapolate from there.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-09-05 05:31pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:The Arabs are defeated. Worst comes to worst Jericho battalions one through five get launch orders and win the war in three minutes.

Jericho Battalions?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-09-05 05:37pm

Vorlon1701 wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:The Arabs are defeated. Worst comes to worst Jericho battalions one through five get launch orders and win the war in three minutes.
Jericho Battalions?

Their missiles.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-05 05:48pm

Their missiles.

Medium range ballistic missiles to be precise, several variants exist. While there is a conventional warhead option, its small size and limited accuracy means it's near useless in such a role. However it's quite clear that the weapons development and current deployment is intended for nuclear strike. Conventional warheads where probably only even developed to serve as political cover for the system.

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