President Bush's Speech

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-09-07 08:49pm

I it's still going on as I write this, but frankly, I walked out in the middle. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it was something better than this. I guess that reflects my attitude about the Iraq war in general.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-09-07 08:51pm

It's best to not watch George W. Bush's speeches. I do support (some) of his policies, specifically tax cuts and the Iraq war, and listening to his speeches only instills doubt.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-09-07 09:03pm

he had a speech?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-09-07 09:04pm

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=55275

I simply didn't expect anything new to be honest.

Same old, same old. Terror this, war that, freedom to those, death to others; he's a broken record of American justice.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-07 09:34pm

I love the way people get angry when you point out that Bush is obviously a moron, yet everyone agrees that whenever he opens his mouth, he does a perfect impression of one.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-09-07 09:38pm

It's funny, there are paid comical writers out there that could spend all day locked in a room with a years supply of coffee and sugar and still not come up with some of the hilarious shit Dubya produces.

I have to admit, the guy has a talent, it just doesn't appear to be leader of the most powerful nation on Earth.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-07 09:46pm

Darth Wong wrote:I love the way people get angry when you point out that Bush is obviously a moron, yet everyone agrees that whenever he opens his mouth, he does a perfect impression of one.

He's a shitty public speaker. That doesn't mean he's stupid despite what some people claim.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-09-07 09:48pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I love the way people get angry when you point out that Bush is obviously a moron, yet everyone agrees that whenever he opens his mouth, he does a perfect impression of one.
He's a shitty public speaker. That doesn't mean he's stupid despite what some people claim.

"Shitty public speaker" is giving him too much credit. Abraham Lincoln was a shitty public speaker as well. Dubya, on the other hand, apparently has a grasp of the English language so tenuous one wonders how he graduated high school.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-09-07 09:51pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I love the way people get angry when you point out that Bush is obviously a moron, yet everyone agrees that whenever he opens his mouth, he does a perfect impression of one.
He's a shitty public speaker. That doesn't mean he's stupid despite what some people claim.

That's arguable, love him or hate him, there are many instances where he just doesn't seem to have done the right thing, Iraq for instance. The déjá vú occuring is only showing what happened to his Dad who lost the national elections after dealing with Iraq and not spending more effort concentrating on the real issues like the economy etc.

I think he's pulling a Blair, Blair often avoids the main points people want sorted out which naturally occur at home and not abroad, yet he changes the subject or tries to solve a problem that didn't exist. He's a brilliant actor and the recent Dr. Kelly inquiry only proves this.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-09-07 10:27pm

To say that I was underwhelmed would be for me to express far more emotion than Bush has evoked in me for the entire duration of his lifespan.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-07 10:32pm

Durran Korr wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I love the way people get angry when you point out that Bush is obviously a moron, yet everyone agrees that whenever he opens his mouth, he does a perfect impression of one.
He's a shitty public speaker. That doesn't mean he's stupid despite what some people claim.
"Shitty public speaker" is giving him too much credit. Abraham Lincoln was a shitty public speaker as well. Dubya, on the other hand, apparently has a grasp of the English language so tenuous one wonders how he graduated high school.

Lincoln wasn't an orator. But the man knew how to speek and act in public. The standards of today and then are very different.

Yes, Bush is a fumbling boob when it comes to speeking in public. There's no question about that.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-07 10:34pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:That's arguable, love him or hate him, there are many instances where he just doesn't seem to have done the right thing, Iraq for instance. The déjá vú occuring is only showing what happened to his Dad who lost the national elections after dealing with Iraq and not spending more effort concentrating on the real issues like the economy etc.

I think he's pulling a Blair, Blair often avoids the main points people want sorted out which naturally occur at home and not abroad, yet he changes the subject or tries to solve a problem that didn't exist. He's a brilliant actor and the recent Dr. Kelly inquiry only proves this.

His vision for public policy is up for debate. You migh disagree with it but that doesn't make him an idiot. A lot of it is a matter of priorities.

And hey, he got his war and he's managed force people to support it at this point or leave a huge disaster. A fool he isn't.

Worlds Spanner · Post by **Worlds Spanner** » 2003-09-07 10:40pm

Actually, there are days when I think that Bush is an evil genius and the inability to speak is just a clever (or fortunate) front.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-09-08 01:07am

Im irritated with his constant blending of Iraq and Terrorists. Iraqi's terrorists didnt attack the US, but he seems to want to plant that seed in the public mind.

I was half expecting him to admit we are going to be there a long time, but he avoided the time question.

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2003-09-08 01:16am

Cheers TPJ. My thoughts exactly. Ive watched these threads for a while,and I find it fascinating that even though most can agree the guy isnt the sharpest knife in the box, and that the things he says are mindbendingly stupid, people still jump to his defence.

If he is a evil genius he hides it under a vast veil of stupidity.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-09-08 01:25am

pellaeons_scion wrote:Cheers TPJ. My thoughts exactly. Ive watched these threads for a while,and I find it fascinating that even though most can agree the guy isnt the sharpest knife in the box, and that the things he says are mindbendingly stupid, people still jump to his defence.

If he is a evil genius he hides it under a vast veil of stupidity.

Im not so sure Bush is dumb. I think he sees the world in black/white terms. I think there is no way he can be objective about Iraq. He is a terrible speaker to be sure.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-08 02:23am

Darth Wong wrote:I love the way people get angry when you point out that Bush is obviously a moron, yet everyone agrees that whenever he opens his mouth, he does a perfect impression of one.

Dont misunderestimate the man..seriously, judge him by is actions..his actions to date have not been overly great by most standards.

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2003-09-08 02:27am

"misunderestimate"

*looking for dictionary*

maybe its a bushism...

':|"

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-08 02:32am

pellaeons_scion wrote:"misunderestimate"

*looking for dictionary*

maybe its a bushism...

':|"

Gotta love the new words he comes up with...a chuckle a munite.

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2003-09-08 02:35am

The worlds greatest comedian. Maybe he will be the new charlie chaplin, almost innocent in his foolishness.

He might even start a new language!

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-08 02:46am

pellaeons_scion wrote:The worlds greatest comedian. Maybe he will be the new charlie chaplin, almost innocent in his foolishness.

He might even start a new language!

Given he is the American president and with his advisors I would be worried if he took a fancy to the film 'The Dictator'

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-09-08 02:48am

Exactly what I said it was gonna be. War on terror, i will not retreat, i will do whatever is necessary, blah blah blah, i call on the UN to blah blah blah

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-08 02:52am

Vympel wrote:Exactly what I said it was gonna be. War on terror, i will not retreat, i will do whatever is necessary, blah blah blah, i call on the UN to blah blah blah

It also amounts to "whoops, I made a boo boo, can mummy clean up my poo poo?"

Upshot Knothole · Post by **Upshot Knothole** » 2003-09-08 02:59am

And yet somehow this "idiot" has consistently outmaneuvered his political opponents at home and abroad and accomplished everything he set out to do. He had the vision to overthrow a tyrant in Mesopotamia while the rest of the world was content to let a madman develop WMDs.

I also find it hilarious that the same people who insisted our President kowtow to the United Nations in a matter of American security now don't want the UN to help secure the peace and freedom of the Iraqi people. And you all cared so much about those people when Butcher Bush was coming to get them, but now you'd let them suffer just to spite a man you irrationally hate. Hypocrites all, in my opinion.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-08 03:19am

Upshot Knothole wrote:And yet somehow this "idiot" has consistently outmaneuvered his political opponents at home and abroad and accomplished everything he set out to do. He had the vision to overthrow a tyrant in Mesopotamia while the rest of the world was content to let a madman develop WMDs.

Outmanouvoured? dont be silly..he just did what he wanted to do and fuck who dissagreed. he has not accomplished much..Iraq is fucked up..the locals dont like you and a good chunk of the planet hates his guts. Bush still has not found any WMD's, probably because Saddam never had the chanvce to rebuild his stoickpile .

I also find it hilarious that the same people who insisted our President kowtow to the United Nations in a matter of American security now don't want the UN to help secure the peace and freedom of the Iraqi people. And you all cared so much about those people when Butcher Bush was coming to get them, but now you'd let them suffer just to spite a man you irrationally hate. Hypocrites all, in my opinion.

People would be happy for the UN to help in Iraq, what people dont want is the UN to be the be the blanket behind which the US still runs things for America's benifit. Bush wants the UN in there?, fine, so long as the UN has control, not the US.
Btw, Iraq was never a threat to America..they lost the ability to threaten a horny camel after 1991.