England given a 2nd Chance (28 Days Later related)

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-09-07 11:05pm

For those who saw the movie or even those that at least know the premise what do you think happens afterwards? Once the infected die of stravation and the island falls back into civilized hands what happens to England? The vast majority of its populace are dead, perhaps the leadership itself is dead or scattered. Would it be feasible or possible to restore England back to her place or would England revret to some sort of protectorate of the EU or the UN?

Would England simply be disolved as a nation?

You have a significant majority dead with the vast majority of survivors over seas and those that managed to be evacuated,

It comes down to what happens to a modern nation that loses most of its population and political clout? Is there any precedent for this?

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-09-07 11:09pm

I have the feeling the UK would be under strict quarantine for a decade or so while "cleaner teams" make sure that the virus is well and truly gone.

Not to mention the several more years of CDC, WHO and UN investigations to make sure its truly safe for habitation.

Hell, I can see a great use for it being an Escape from NY type prison island.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-09-07 11:14pm

How does the rest of the world fare after the end of the movie?

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-09-07 11:19pm

The US would step in with "clean up teams" and occupy it to help the shattered nation, slowly gaining control and eventually consuming it as another colony.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-07 11:20pm

Durran Korr wrote:How does the rest of the world fare after the end of the movie?

Outbreaks in few places on the Continent and North America. Presumably contained as far as we can tell. It seems civilization as a whole survived.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-09-07 11:21pm

zombie84 wrote:The US would step in with "clean up teams" and occupy it to help the shattered nation, slowly gaining control and eventually consuming it as another colony.

I think the EU would be opposed to such a move right on their doorstep. I could foresee a competition between the US and EU for rights to England with an English government in exile along for the ride.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-07 11:25pm

Stravo wrote:
zombie84 wrote:The US would step in with "clean up teams" and occupy it to help the shattered nation, slowly gaining control and eventually consuming it as another colony.
I think the EU would be opposed to such a move right on their doorstep. I could foresee a competition between the US and EU for rights to England with an English government in exile along for the ride.

America would have to take some roll as I highly doubt an operation of that magnitude could be conducted solely out of European resources.

But I think the US colonizing England is ridiculous. What for? Especially after that! It just wouldn't happen.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-07 11:31pm

A lot would depend on how long the infected can survive for. If they can live out a full human lifespan (unlikely I think but possibul) then nuclear release or massed chemical bombing may be the only options.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-09-07 11:31pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:How does the rest of the world fare after the end of the movie?
Outbreaks in few places on the Continent and North America. Presumably contained as far as we can tell. It seems civilization as a whole survived.

Wasn't there some alternate ending where things were worse?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-07 11:33pm

Durran Korr wrote:
Wasn't there some alternate ending where things were worse?

There supposedly where several, IMDb has a list of them. But it seems none address what happens to the rest of the world.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-07 11:34pm

Durran Korr wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:How does the rest of the world fare after the end of the movie?
Outbreaks in few places on the Continent and North America. Presumably contained as far as we can tell. It seems civilization as a whole survived.
Wasn't there some alternate ending where things were worse?

For the Brits yes, but none is any better or worse for the rest of the world.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-09-07 11:42pm

The soldiers in the movie were pretty clear that England was under quarantine and the rest of the world has escaped the worst of the infection. As to how long, it was fairly evident from the final scene that many of the infected were dying of starvation 28 days after the events of the movie. (why the infected don't just feed on each other is a bit beyond me)

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-07 11:45pm

Stravo wrote:The soldiers in the movie were pretty clear that England was under quarantine and the rest of the world has escaped the worst of the infection.

But they didn't know; they figured but it's clear from the way the commader was talking they didn't know. And lot of it was just nerves and insanity taking their toll.

Stravo wrote:As to how long, it was fairly evident from the final scene that many of the infected were dying of starvation 28 days after the events of the movie. (why the infected don't just feed on each other is a bit beyond me)

Perhaps because other infected were unsuitable food sources?

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-09-08 05:51am

I suppose it depends whether or not the infected can get through the Chunnel.
If they can, and do, then I reckon that most of Europe, even Asia and Africa, are fucked. I also reckon there's no chance the UK government got out within the first few days.

Assuming we haven't got a decimated world consisting of the Americas and the Antipodes, then the UK is part of the EU, and that's who will recolonise it. (Bloody French

)

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-09-08 06:45am

America 'cleans' the island with purifying thermonuclear flames.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-09-08 07:32am

Durran Korr wrote:How does the rest of the world fare after the end of the movie?

The jet at the end of the movie confirms it: my country is safe. That's all what matters to me.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-08 09:11am

I think that the world got away largely unharmed. I can't see how an Infected would get to New York City anyway. Besides, it's New York. They probably heard reports of the Infection in England, went on the subway, saw someone acting particularly weird, and phoned it in. I can see dozens and dozens of such sightings.

I've theorized that the Infected probably could get to France via the chunnel before they undoubtably flooded it to quarantine the island. So Europe may have had a problem, but I can't see too huge of one.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-09-08 10:03am

Stravo wrote: (why the infected don't just feed on each other is a bit beyond me)

Probably done on purpose. If it was developed as a weapon, you'd want the infected to die off.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-09-08 04:28pm

innerbrat wrote:I suppose it depends whether or not the infected can get through the Chunnel.
If they can, and do, then I reckon that most of Europe, even Asia and Africa, are fucked.

I think that when news of the outbreak first reached France the first thing they'd do would be try to surrender to the possessed. After that doesn't work they'd probably destroy the channel tunnel or at least seal it off.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-08 04:33pm

2000AD wrote:
I think that when news of the outbreak first reached France the first thing they'd do would be try to surrender to the possessed. After that doesn't work they'd probably destroy the channel tunnel or at least seal it off.

At most they'd collapse the very end of it on the French side, allowing for a future reopening. Shutting down the ventilation system and filling the tunnel entrances with earth would also work, though it would take somewhat longer. Flooding isn't an option, you'd have to pump a fuckload of water in, its not like there's a convenient pipe leading up to the bottom of the English Channel.

Unless the infected got on a train, which seems unlikely to me, they wouldn't be likely to get through, Its a rather long walk and they'd be noticed and met with a hail of gunfire.

Seele · Post by **Seele** » 2003-09-08 04:50pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:I think that the world got away largely unharmed. I can't see how an Infected would get to New York City anyway. Besides, it's New York. They probably heard reports of the Infection in England, went on the subway, saw someone acting particularly weird, and phoned it in. I can see dozens and dozens of such sightings.

I've theorized that the Infected probably could get to France via the chunnel before they undoubtably flooded it to quarantine the island. So Europe may have had a problem, but I can't see too huge of one.

Yeah, I agree. Also, the incubation period for the virus is only about 20 seconds. And with that short of a time period, I don't see how it would really spread off of the island. Any plane most likely would crash and any boat would just mindlessly wonder around and most likely sunk by the Coast Guard.

The news broadcast on how the infection is spreading around the world I think was misinformation for the survivors so they don't try to excape and possibly spread the infection.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-09-08 04:51pm

Oberleutnant wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:How does the rest of the world fare after the end of the movie?
The jet at the end of the movie confirms it: my country is safe. That's all what matters to me.

It could be a lone remnant of airforce guys looking for women.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-09-09 03:38pm

Well, if that is the case then the end would have to be viewed in different light.

It would even leave room for a bizarre sequel...

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-09-09 04:00pm

Not really. I mean, where would they land? Besides it's a Scandahoovian plane(according to some), why go 500 miles, to the ROOT of an infection looking for women.
The movie seems a little based on Iain Banks' A Song of Stone. At least the soldier part does.(If this was obvious to everyone with the book, haha!, mine's autographed!)

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-09-09 05:57pm

SyntaxVorlon wrote:The movie seems a little based on Iain Banks' A Song of Stone. At least the soldier part does.(If this was obvious to everyone with the book, haha!, mine's autographed!)

*Hands SV a copy of Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham.*

This is to 28 Days what The Tempest is to Forbidden Planet, what Emma s to Clueless and what Cyrano de Bergerac is to The Truth about Cats and Dogs.

The same fucking plot. All other comparisons are redundant.