Man rapes 12 year old and goes free

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-09-08 08:27pm

I kid you not

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/09/04/saskrape030904

Saskatchewan man won't be jailed for sexual assault of 12-year-old
Last Updated Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:06:37

MELFORT, SASK. - A man convicted of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl in Saskatchewan will not be going to prison. A judge has given Dean Edmondson a two-year conditional sentence.

Two years ago, a 12-year-old Cree girl was picked up by some men near Tisdale. They gave her beer and the girl was later assaulted on a desolate country road.

Three men were charged, but Edmondson was the only one convicted.

Judge Fred Kovatch said he couldn't ignore allegations the girl had been raised in an abusive home. That evidence, he said, supported the defence theory that the girl was the sexual aggressor.

The judge said while Edmondson was convicted of a serious crime, he suspects the aboriginal child was a victim of sexual abuse by a family member.

Family members are outraged. They think Edmondson should be in prison.

Defence lawyer Hugh Harradence says the judge made the right decision. "I think it is justice and it can be defended," he said.

Edmondson was found guilty in May of assaulting the girl in Sept. 2001.

During Edmondson's trial, the girl's underwear was submitted as evidence. Semen belonging to the girl's father was found on it.

The incident has angered the aboriginal community and drawn repeated cries of racism.

All I can say is WHAT THE FUCK?

The legal age of consent here in Canada is 14. (I looked it up, go to www.yahoo.ca and type in age of consent. There is a website that lists it for all over the world, and even by state)
The girl was 12 at the time of the offense. They gave her beer (beer to a minor) and then had sex with her.

Regardless of if she was the agressor, SHE WAS STILL A 12 YEAR OLD! Regardless of her being willing or not, she was still a kid.

Okay, now I'm going to clam down a little.

Now, if this is a case (and the article doesn't say) of the girl looking alot older then she really is (and we all know some girls look older) and saying she was older and then being the agressor, that's different. That wouldn't be a rape charge however.

I think the judge needs to have his job examined. And the girls father needs to be up on charges as well.
I can think of no way that doesn't bemand the girl being seperated from her father/family that could account for her dad's semen on her underwear. The only way I can think of is if the girls mom and here wore the same size underwear and the same type.

What do you all think? Insufficent information, or brain-dead judge?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-09-08 08:29pm

Shoot him.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2003-09-08 08:34pm

Shoot them all just to be safe.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-09-08 08:35pm

Horrifying. The fact that she may or may not have instigated sexual contact is so very irrelevant that it really doesn't need to be commented on.
This judge must be friends with PatKelly.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-09-08 08:35pm

Judge Fred Kovatch said he couldn't ignore allegations the girl had been raised in an abusive home. That evidence, he said, supported the defence theory that the girl was the sexual aggressor.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-09-08 08:39pm

"Girl was the sexual agressor"? What the fuck, how many 12 year-old girls out there would willingly have sex with some creepy guy like him? And if they're not going ot peg him with rape charges, they could at least charge him with giving alcohol to a minor.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-09-08 08:40pm

This... is planet Earth

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2003-09-08 10:43pm

It doesn't fricking MATTER if the girl 'may have been abused' or 'may have been the sexual aggressor'!! Doubtless the defense pointed out that we don't know... but it doesn't even MATTER! If she signed a waiver, begged on national television, and threatened to kill your kids, its still rape! Isn't that one of those LAW things? *uncomprehending*

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-09-08 10:47pm

I think the judge was coerced or bribed. That's the only way one could explain this, other than sheer stupidity.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2003-09-08 11:30pm

Shinova wrote:I think the judge was coerced or bribed. That's the only way one could explain this, other than sheer stupidity.

Aren't there any regulatory measures in place? To keep corruption to minor changes, 'clerical errors' etc, instead of high profile cases like this?? This ruling is obviously, laughably, acid-flashback bullshit. Average Joe won't like it (except the 'she asked for it' neanderthals), and anyone who knows anything about law will demand it gets overturned... and its not even in America!

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-09-08 11:52pm

Howedar wrote:Shoot him.

<Rhetorical> Who? The judge or the suspect? </Rhetorical>

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-08 11:55pm

What do you expect? It's rural Saskatchewan for fuck's sake! That's Canada's equivalent of Alabama hillbillies, for those of you who don't know.

What blows me away is the family's calls for justice. Yes, the creep should go to prison, but the girl had her father's semen in her, so her fucking asshole child-abusing father should be going to prison too!!!

Bug-Eyed Earl · Post by **Bug-Eyed Earl** » 2003-09-08 11:57pm

This man needs to get his balls blown off with some homemadeplastique.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-09-08 11:59pm

What I'd like to know is how a 12 year old girl is capable of "sexual aggression" against someone twice her age and size.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-09-09 12:03am

I'm pretty sure that if she were not aboriginal that this would NOT be an issue in the case. Since she's nonwhite and even worse an Indian that its OK in the Judge's mind to imagine her as acting in some way not quite as civilized.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2003-09-09 02:21am

Darth Wong wrote:What blows me away is the family's calls for justice. Yes, the creep should go to prison, but the girl had her father's semen in her, so her fucking asshole child-abusing father should be going to prison too!!!

Can the authorites not try the girls father on this evidence?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-09-09 02:34am

Stark wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:What blows me away is the family's calls for justice. Yes, the creep should go to prison, but the girl had her father's semen in her, so her fucking asshole child-abusing father should be going to prison too!!!
Can the authorites not try the girls father on this evidence?

I didn't see where it said they found it in her.

I don't think they could try her father on that evidence alone, but it should give them cause to investigate.

Though it also depends on how they found that part out I think.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-09 02:57am

neoolong wrote:
Stark wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:What blows me away is the family's calls for justice. Yes, the creep should go to prison, but the girl had her father's semen in her, so her fucking asshole child-abusing father should be going to prison too!!!
Can the authorites not try the girls father on this evidence?
I didn't see where it said they found it in her.

OK, they found his semen on her underwear. That's close enough; what the fuck is her father's semen doing on her underwear?

I don't think they could try her father on that evidence alone, but it should give them cause to investigate.

If you went to a jury and told them that you found her father's semen on her underwear, I think they'd be able to connect the dots.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-09-09 03:38am

Darth Wong wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Stark wrote: Can the authorites not try the girls father on this evidence?
I didn't see where it said they found it in her.
OK, they found his semen on her underwear. That's close enough; what the fuck is her father's semen doing on her underwear?

True, but considering what happened in this case, you think a defense attorney couldn't come up with something?

I don't think they could try her father on that evidence alone, but it should give them cause to investigate.
If you went to a jury and told them that you found her father's semen on her underwear, I think they'd be able to connect the dots.

Actually, I was wondering if you could use that evidence in that case legalistically. Or if it breaches some protocal.

I was thinking that it might give them probable cause to look for evidence that can be used in court. I'm not sure though.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-09-09 05:24am

How many times have we seen stories like this now? I think the number must be going in the hundred pretty soon, nothing shocks me anymore.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-09-10 12:46am

Things like this make me want to become a supervillain and blow up the Earth.

But seriously, those clown who assaulted her knew better than to tag a 12-year old, and all three including her father should be in prison.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-09-10 01:17am

granted, i was a damn horny little bugger at 13 and wanted to fuck lots of guys twice my age, but this is.. wtf.

Beer, sex, and clear child abuse.. How can this case be thrown out?!

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-09-10 11:35pm

Agreed.

The only sequence of events I can see that could possible back being tossed out are so unlikely IMO, it's more likely we will be hit with 20 'extinction' level asteroids in the next 6 weeks.

This is why I wish Judges were held accountable for there decisions.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2003-09-11 08:13am

Stravo wrote:I'm pretty sure that if she were not aboriginal that this would NOT be an issue in the case. Since she's nonwhite and even worse an Indian that its OK in the Judge's mind to imagine her as acting in some way not quite as civilized.

are there aboriginal indians? i thought aboriginal is a term to discribe the natives of australia while indian is a term describing american natives.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2003-09-11 11:28am

Aboriginal can IIRC be applied to pretty much any native population. Just it's used most often to describe the Australian natives.