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Report says schools are unfair to America
Tuesday, September 9, 2003 Posted: 12:05 PM EDT (1605 GMT)


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Over the past 30 years, the percentage of people under 25 who vote has dropped 15 percentage points, the report says. It cites other signs of apathy and low patriotism, such as when children touring Washington said they knew Memorial Day as "the day the pools open."

It's important that students understand not only our flaws and failings, but also the degree to which the United States was really the first modern democracy, and the degree to which it has inspired democrats around the world.
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The nation's schools are telling an unbalanced story of their own country, offering students plenty about America's failings but not enough about its values and freedoms, says a report drawing support across the ideological spectrum.

Without a change of approach, schools will continue to turn out large numbers of students who are disengaged in society and unappreciative of democracy, the report contends.

Produced by the nonpartisan Albert Shanker Institute, "Education for Democracy" is the latest effort to try to strengthen the nation's underwhelming grasp of civics and history. Authors hope it will lead to curriculum changes and, in the short term, stir debate about today's social studies classes as people reflect on the terrorist attacks of two years ago.

Wide range of support
Beyond its provocative findings, the report is notable for the range of people and groups supporting it, from Republicans and Democrats to labor unions and conservative think tanks.

Those who have signed on include former President Clinton; Jeane Kirkpatrick, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and U.N. ambassador during the first administration of Ronald Reagan; and David McCullough, the historian and author. Dozens of scholars, professors, labor leaders and representatives of school groups have backed it, too.

"It really shows the depth of concern across the country about the status of our civil society," said one signatory, Lee Hamilton, president of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. "How low voter participation can you have and still have a democracy?"

Too many classroom lessons and text books contribute to a sense of historical indifference by focusing on America's darker moments, the report says.

In a push to give a warts-and-all account of the struggles of democracy, schools have turned the nation's sins into the essence of the story instead of just a part of it, the new report says.

"Vietnam, Watergate, impeachment hearings, the rottenness of campaign finance, rising cynicism about politicians in general -- we've gone excessively in our society ... toward cynicism," said Larry Diamond, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.

"It's a call for balance; it's not a call for purging from the history books honest criticism of our failings."

"People have been so anxious to be self-critical, probably with good intentions," said Sandra Feldman, president of the American Federation of Teachers, the nation's second largest union of teachers. "But we feel that's just gone too far over in that direction.

"We definitely have had terrible problems as a nation, but we also have a society that is totally different than that of a totalitarian society. Children need to understand and value what has been built here," said Feldman, also president of the institute, which is endowed by the AFT.

Report: History, civics lost
Reg Weaver, president of the largest education union, the National Education Association, has also endorsed the report. So have leaders of the National School Boards Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers.

The report accompanies an earlier institute-sponsored study on civics standards, one that contends history and civics are often lost in the emphasis on reading and math.

The report says: "We do not ask for propaganda, for crash courses in the right attitudes or for knee-jerk patriotic drill. We do not want to capsulize democracy's arguments into slogans, or pious texts, or bright debaters' points."

But it takes aim at a lack of teaching about non-democratic societies, saying that comparison could show the "genius" of America's system. Sanitized accounts of real-life horrors elsewhere lead to the "half-education" of children, the report says.

The report calls for a stronger history and social studies curriculum, starting in elementary school and continuing through all years of schooling. It also suggests a bigger push for morality in education lessons.

"The basic ideas of liberty, equality, and justice, of civil, political and economic rights and obligations, are all assertions of right and wrong, of moral values," the report says. "The authors of the American testament had no trouble distinguishing moral education from religious instruction, and neither should we."
FINALLY, people might be waking up to the bullshit going on in higher education with regard to American history and the country in general. Parents have sent their kids off to school thinking they would get an education NOT indoctrination from entrenched leftists about how evil America is. I had to fight the urge to spew after hearing some of the utter tripe my teachers in college would spread and wondered if anyone would wake up to this little known fact.

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your schools teach you to hate america? LMAO

In the UK our schools don't teach us anything but to make up our own minds... it should be that way for you guys too.
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And it get worse as you get get farther into schools the worst is college.
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Zac Naloen wrote: In the UK our schools don't teach us anything but to make up our own minds... it should be that way for you guys too.
Saw one of your school textbooks on WWI in my local
library bookstore...had all these CASE A, CASE B, CASE C, etc,
viewpoints from both sides in the Great War, and NOT ONE
DAMN WORD about how the Yanks broke the Michael Offensive
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Zac Naloen wrote:your schools teach you to hate america? LMAO

In the UK our schools don't teach us anything but to make up our own minds... it should be that way for you guys too.
I'm in the UK, I left school this time last year, and what you just said is bullshit. Sorry. :(
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guess it isn't on the curriculum.... doesn't mean they don't like the yanks
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Zac Naloen wrote:your schools teach you to hate america? LMAO

In the UK our schools don't teach us anything but to make up our own minds... it should be that way for you guys too.
You must have went to a good school.
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i think i go to a school where no one really gives a shit, honestly, the history teachers do nothing but talk sport with us. somehow teaching us about the english civil war and 16th centuary France :?
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American history books are indoctrination pamphlets. You'll never see a history book mention that Columbus was a ruthless slave trader or responsible for genocide in the Canary Islands. Then they overlook the little detail that Helen Keller was a radical socialist. Then there was the small misconception that in Columbus' time, most people did think that the world was round.

American history is largely based around glorifying certain people as heroes with absolutely no character flaws, even in the case of murderous, genocidal maniacs like Columbus.

Look into the book Lies My Teacher Told Me, written by a historian to dispel myths surrounding many key figures in American history.
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American history textbooks for younger children do indeed whitewash history. As students get older, however, they begin to present a more well-rounded view of American history.
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Durandal wrote:Then they overlook the little detail that Helen Keller was a radical socialist.

Was she still a pacifist after Pearl Harbour?
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Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Durandal wrote:Then they overlook the little detail that Helen Keller was a radical socialist.

Was she still a pacifist after Pearl Harbour?
No, I don't think she heard about it.
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Didn't see it coming either!
Didn't speak out against it though.



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Durran Korr wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Durandal wrote:Then they overlook the little detail that Helen Keller was a radical socialist.

Was she still a pacifist after Pearl Harbour?
No, I don't think she heard about it.
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Durran Korr wrote:American history textbooks for younger children do indeed whitewash history. As students get older, however, they begin to present a more well-rounded view of American history.
Not really, no. My high school history book never mentioned the fact that Columbus was a genocidal, mass-murdering fuck, and my teachers never saw fit to inform me of that. That would fit with what I've read so far in the book I mentioned before.
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Durandal wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:American history textbooks for younger children do indeed whitewash history. As students get older, however, they begin to present a more well-rounded view of American history.
Not really, no. My high school history book never mentioned the fact that Columbus was a genocidal, mass-murdering fuck, and my teachers never saw fit to inform me of that. That would fit with what I've read so far in the book I mentioned before.
Columbus, admittedly, seems to be a sacred cow. However, most history textbooks for higher level students I have seen do not attempt to cover up most of the atrocities within American history; the slaughter of the Incas and Aztecs is usually well-documented, as well as the negative side of the Puritans. They make absolutely no attempt to whitewash slavery and the Indian Removal, and examine the decision to drop the atomic bomb at something more than face value.
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I hope there is some sarcasm here.
Columus wanted to find a trade roue to India and China.
He didn't even know there was anything here, much less have preexsisting plans for it.
Expantionist and genocidal motives atributed to him are follishness at best, and usualy lies.
This dovetails with the recent denigration of the founding fathers. Nothing they did was good, because they engaged in the widespread preactice of slave ownership.
Focusing on the downsides, not the unique ideals they birthed.

The idea that America was a new experiment, and the most enlightened form of government at the time, is overshadowed by the "Thomas Jefferson was a racist rapist." crowd. George Washinton owned slaves, therefor he wasn't a great man.
Like the idea and the man are inseperable, and there is something less than legitamate about America.
It is a very common theme in college that all the worlds ills are in root, caused by America, her greed, and evil expantionism.
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This article is full of shit. At no point in my 12 years of High School did I receive what they call "leftist" or "anti-american" indoctrination. The only negative comments I saw about America came from a social studies book: a quick sentance about the evils of slavery :roll:
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The closest I ever got to anti-American indoctrination was having to read one or two chapters of Zinn in AP US History.
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Hamel, I concur. Though it maybe my school is full Bible thumping, racist, conservative idiots. Atleast they call ne the "Devil" for being a liberaterion.
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Durran Korr wrote:Columbus, admittedly, seems to be a sacred cow. However, most history textbooks for higher level students I have seen do not attempt to cover up most of the atrocities within American history; the slaughter of the Incas and Aztecs is usually well-documented, as well as the negative side of the Puritans. They make absolutely no attempt to whitewash slavery and the Indian Removal, and examine the decision to drop the atomic bomb at something more than face value.
You have looked at different textbooks than the ones I have and the ones that James Loewen has, apparently.
EmperorChrostas the Cruel wrote:I hope there is some sarcasm here.
Columus wanted to find a trade roue to India and China.
He didn't even know there was anything here, much less have preexsisting plans for it.
Expantionist and genocidal motives atributed to him are follishness at best, and usualy lies.
Yeah, those damn historians don't know what they're talking about. Columbus' own accounts show that he was after nothing more than money, and he considered the inhabitants of the Canary islands to be animals. He was a murderous fuck. We don't even have a picture of him, and yet pictures of him appear all over history books as though they're authentic.
This dovetails with the recent denigration of the founding fathers. Nothing they did was good, because they engaged in the widespread preactice of slave ownership.
Focusing on the downsides, not the unique ideals they birthed.
Yes, the "widespread" idea that had been all but eradicated in Europe at the time. "All men are created equal," except of course, for blacks.
The idea that America was a new experiment, and the most enlightened form of government at the time, is overshadowed by the "Thomas Jefferson was a racist rapist." crowd. George Washinton owned slaves, therefor he wasn't a great man.
Washington's owning slaves may not make him a horrible person since it was widespread in the Americas, but he most certainly was not the blemish-free Greek god that we make him out to be.
Like the idea and the man are inseperable, and there is something less than legitamate about America.
It is a very common theme in college that all the worlds ills are in root, caused by America, her greed, and evil expantionism.
No, the common theme is that America has used classrooms to indoctrinate children into the idea of all key figures in its history being blemish-free heroes. Guess how many history books mention the fact that Wilson was a fanatical racist who used his position in the presidency to set the status of blacks in official government positions back to the mid-1800's (blacks held some higher offices right before his term, and he took care of that very quickly).
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You have looked at different textbooks than the ones I have and the ones that James Loewen has, apparently.
Loewen's book is over 8 years old, also.
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Durran Korr wrote:
You have looked at different textbooks than the ones I have and the ones that James Loewen has, apparently.
Loewen's book is over 8 years old, also.
Very true, and it's been roughly 5 since I took an American History course.
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There's certainly been a more cynical veiw taken of America's past. It's not entirely partisan; just cynical as hell. I'd like to see more mention of the good things that we've done. Not it's mostly on the failings and the bad things we've done.


And for that matter a history more focused on the meaningful things. I mean why spend as much time European history as that of Sub Saharan Africa? Even Rome and the British Empire were breezed over. I mean those were as important as Ghana? I think not. :roll:


And yes, Durandal, we did learn about what Columbus left in his wake. But we also learned something of the more unpleasant aspects of the societies the conquistadors overthrew.
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This is nothing more than political wrangling. Columbus is revered even though he was a mass-murderer whose men cut open pregnant women, ripped out their babies, and smashed their heads on the ground to set an example when the natives weren't obedient enough. Why? Who the fuck knows? Maybe because he was a devout Christian.

Meanwhile, Lincoln's legacy is steadily chipped away every year by revisionists who try to paint him as a megalomaniac with no principles, and who try to paint the Confederates as something other than the slavery-loving exploiters that they really were.

History is just another political battleground in the US. Just like science and everything else; the classroom itself is a battleground.
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