The Cobb County Board of Education Vs. All of Science

Stormtrooper THX-1138 · Post by **Stormtrooper THX-1138** » 2002-09-26 11:35pm

I think I'm going to be violently ill.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/09/26 ... index.html

Read on. This is a terrifying precedent.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-09-26 11:42pm

FUCKING DAMMIT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Destroy! Kill! Maim! Point Osama in their general direction!

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-09-26 11:55pm

I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's Georgia. Their idea of higher education is the "Where's Waldo" anthology.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-09-26 11:57pm

Darth Wong wrote:I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's Georgia. Their idea of higher education is the "Where's Waldo" anthology.

LOL! And the university bound are required to read "James and the Giant Peach," for federal aid purposes.

Stormtrooper THX-1138 · Post by **Stormtrooper THX-1138** » 2002-09-26 11:58pm

*LOL* XD

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-27 12:08am

AHHHH! HOLY SHIT MAN! Oh, well atleast the Rednecks are showing their true colors. Those clapping Rednecks. Much like my school the "intelligents" as in higher grade makers are civil and normal until evolution where they show their colors. I the high grade student that is atheist, and the only intelligent one.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2002-09-27 12:13am

Stormtrooper THX-1138 wrote:I think I'm going to be violently ill.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/09/26 ... index.html

Read on. This is a terrifying precedent.

Stupidy of this kind is laughable, or would be if were not for the fact that its in schools.
Thank smeg I live in NZ where you are not likley to get this kind of stupidity, and I went to a Catholic high school!

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-09-27 12:17am

Yeah, I was at a Uniting Church school from kindergarten to yr12. Not once was creation theory mentioned in a serious light. Not even in PD (personal development, aka - attempted religious indoctrinaton 101).

Creationism is bunk for anyone with an IQ above the number of fingers they have.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2002-09-27 12:25am

weemadando wrote:Yeah, I was at a Uniting Church school from kindergarten to yr12. Not once was creation theory mentioned in a serious light. Not even in PD (personal development, aka - attempted religious indoctrinaton 101).

Creationism is bunk for anyone with an IQ above the number of fingers they have.

Yup, Same here. We had Religeous education, sure, but all that was explaining how the worlds major religeons worked, not just christianty, it was actually quite usefull in retrospect. Science was science and there was never any religeous nonsence involved.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-09-27 12:26am

While not every southerner is an religious wacko, they do seem to have a of them.

I can't help but think this is a very very bad idea. If they think that religous bullshit is the equivalent of a sound and reasonable scientific theory, then they are hopelessly out of touch with reality. Evolution is a theory; creationism is fairy-fucking-tale. Don't teach it in school and don't try brainwashing children under the guise of public education. If you want them to have a religious education send them to a religious school not turn the public school into one.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-09-27 12:29am

When I become president I will not allow this sort of thing to happen. Vote for Me Ben Allen in the election of 2024! yes I am starting my campaign 20 years in advance

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-09-27 12:35am

Stormbringer wrote:While not every southerner is an religious wacko, they do seem to have a of them.

Collective heatstroke. The brain doesn't work very well when its getting cooked.

I'm more than half serious about this, actually. Has anyone else ever noticed the corelation between hot places and indicators of reduced mental functioning, such as depressed economic output, religious fundamentalism, and prolonged wars? Just look at the Middle East (hot, poor in human resources other than terrorists, rich in religious nuts), South Asia (hot, poor, full of religious nuts), Central and South America (hot, poor, prone to civil wars), Africa (hot, poor, warring, portions full of religious nuts), northern Australia (very hot, full of religious nuts), and the southern reaches of the US (hot, full of religious nuts). The corelation between heat and idiocy looks rather interesting.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-27 12:41am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:When I become president I will not allow this sort of thing to happen. Vote for Me Ben Allen in the election of 2024! yes I am starting my campaign 20 years in advance

2025 is my takeover year. Oh, well you want too be a puppet or die?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-09-27 12:45am

Funny thing:

Did anyone notice the T-Rex on the same page?

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2002-09-27 12:47am

I disagree with the Creationist on this one AND the ACLU. They do teach more than one big bang theory in highschool also, so should we just limit it to some THEORIES and not others.

Is Evolution a Theory? YES! It is not a scientific law.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-09-27 12:50am

Here's a scary thought, teach the kids to think for them selves.

Hey they are naturally rebellious.

QUESTION AUTHORITY-John Lennon

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-09-27 12:59am

Sam Or I wrote:Is Evolution a Theory? YES! It is not a scientific law.

So's the theory of gravity. Do you now expect bricks to spontainously levitate and the earth to fly apart due to centrificial force because gravity is 'only a theory?'

Scentific theories are not guesses, they explain the observed facts. The theory of gravity explains the fact that massive objects attract. The theory of evolution explains the observed fact of evolution.

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2002-09-27 01:13am

But if a book says it is a theory, which it is, how is that preaching religion? It is not. It was a disclaimer, saying the book could be wrong. (I have not read it to be honest)

A theory is Based on facts. No, they are not guess, they are based on fact which leads to a conclusion, is it the only conclusion? There could be more than one based on the same facts. Can a theory be wrong? YES. Was it once a theory that the sun was the center of the universe? Is it, no.

Post by **Edi** » 2002-09-27 03:09am

Sam Or I, RTFS, or Read the Fucking Site! There's a link on the SDnet main page to a comprehensive debunking of creationism, alongside where these distinctions are clearly spelled out, e.g. here: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationis ... kies.shtml

Edi

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-09-27 09:15am

Sam Or I wrote:But if a book says it is a theory...

Son, you might just want to do a little bit of reading, back up, and try your line of thought again.

On another 'education' note, while reading the CNN article, the next one down is just as annoying:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Central/09/2 ... index.html

It's nice how people also seem to think that hairstyles are worth explusion.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-27 09:23am

All parts of Science are THEROYS, There are no Laws at all, HOWEVER A Theroy that stands the test of time and is not debunked general is give the title of *Law
Such as the Law of Gravity

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2002-09-27 12:42pm

OK, I have read the site. I still do not see a problem with a disclaimer. It was saying it is a theory, what is the problem? Is it not a Fact that it IS A THEORY. No one can can say it is not. So what is wrong with stating the FACT that Evolution is a theory?

salm · Post by **salm** » 2002-09-27 12:52pm

wow, neither dreadlocks nor mohawks! that´s a good thing to do. give these little brats a good haircut like in the army. not longer than 3mm shall be accepted. that goes for boys as well as for girls.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-27 12:56pm

Is it not a Fact that it IS A THEORY. No one can can say it is not. So what is wrong with stating the FACT that Evolution is a theory?

Because ALL Science is Theory
There was a reason he compared it to the THEORY of Gravity

Chris Walker · Post by **Chris Walker** » 2002-09-27 01:01pm

Mr Bean wrote:All parts of Science are THEROYS, There are no Laws at all, HOWEVER A Theroy that stands the test of time and is not debunked general is give the title of *Law
Such as the Law of Gravity

Mr. Bean, this hierarchical view of theories and laws is incorrect. The following two links explain the difference:

http://cs.bluffton.edu/~berger/NSC/TenMyths.html
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/oc ... .Sh.r.html

From the second:

Laws are generalizations about what has happened, from which we can generalize about what we expect to happen. They pertain to observational data. The ability of the ancients to predict eclipses had nothing to do with whether they knew just how they happened; they had a law but not a theory.

Theories are explanations of observations (or of laws). The fact that we have a pretty good understanding of how stars explode doesn't necessarily mean we could predict the next supernova; we have a theory but not a law.

In otherwords, however much evidence a theory accumulates in its favour, it remains a theory; it is never given the title of 'law' because a law is a different thing. For example, 'F = ma' is a law, but it doesn't explain why F = ma ... so it isn't, and never has been, a theory.

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