12 year old sued by RIAA...

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-09-10 10:50am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:I suppose that's the figure for the profits of records sold by big-label record companies. What about "indie rock"?

Independent labels are another matter entirely...

Isil`Zha · Post by **Isil`Zha** » 2003-09-10 12:10pm

Well they *blame* CD sales drops on internet downloading,when really it's because they pull shit like this. Now, out of that $20 for the CD it cost them less than $1 to actually make it - so who's ripping off who here? Countersue them for ripping the consumer off, and that you only download songs to balance out how many songs you *should* have gotten for that rediculously inflated price.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-09-11 04:10am

Personally I think the drop in CD singles sales is becasue so much of the music being churned out nowadays is comlete and utter crap

Or mayeb that never occured to some people?

Post by **Edi** » 2003-09-11 04:15am

There's also the fact that CD prices have not dropped one cent in 20 years. Compare what happened to movie DVDs in just two or three years. RIAA has been price-gouging, pure and simple, and now they're whingeing that they should be allowed to do it forever and everyone is being mean to them.

And yes, quality of music has gone down too, but that's not the half of it.

Edi

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-11 04:33am

Edi wrote:There's also the fact that CD prices have not dropped one cent in 20 years. Compare what happened to movie DVDs in just two or three years. RIAA has been price-gouging, pure and simple, and now they're whingeing that they should be allowed to do it forever and everyone is being mean to them.

And yes, quality of music has gone down too, but that's not the half of it.

Edi

Given that 'popular' stuff is all the same price..one wonders if these companies should be done for price fixing.

Post by **Edi** » 2003-09-11 04:44am

Actually, they got caught red-handed for price-fixing in the early 90s, their intent to keep the prices artificially high, and they really didn't get any consequences, so I suppose they just have an informal cartel going on, instead of an official one. They need to be taken down hard.

Edi

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-09-11 05:14am

Really fun stuff is that the old stuff that I like is usually in the Bargin section too.

I picked up a Billie Holliday five disk Boxed set for $16, spent another $20 on three Disks of Robert Johnson, and got some Lewis Armstrong for a mere $5 (actually nothing since I had already gotten a $6 kick back for the third item.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-11 05:24am

Edi wrote:Actually, they got caught red-handed for price-fixing in the early 90s, their intent to keep the prices artificially high, and they really didn't get any consequences, so I suppose they just have an informal cartel going on, instead of an official one. They need to be taken down hard.

Edi

Whats needed is a proper investigation...wont get it though..not in the US, they have too much political grunt.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-09-11 01:07pm

innerbrat wrote:Personally I think the drop in CD singles sales is becasue so much of the music being churned out nowadays is comlete and utter crap

Or mayeb that never occured to some people?

It might also have something to do with the economy going in the crapper.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-09-11 08:16pm

innerbrat wrote:Personally I think the drop in CD singles sales is becasue so much of the music being churned out nowadays is comlete and utter crap

Or mayeb that never occured to some people?

I don't think the problem is that the music sucks, it's just that the music doesn't have appeal. People like Britney Spears and N'Sync prove that it's not about talent, origionality, or sounding good, but appealing to your key demographic: Horny guys, teenage girls, and/or 10 year-olds with their parents' money. Screw everyone else!

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-09-11 08:16pm

I just had a thought on a potential way to protest against the RIAA:

Download songs as usual. When you get 15-20 songs from a single artist/group, mail them $20.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-11 10:06pm

An industry group will be paying the $2000 fine for the girl.

PC World link.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-09-11 10:54pm

I bought a CD from a friend who belonged to a garage band. Cost me $5. Best non-soundtrack CD I've bought... in a year, at least.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-09-12 12:41am

Edi wrote:There's also the fact that CD prices have not dropped one cent in 20 years. Compare what happened to movie DVDs in just two or three years. RIAA has been price-gouging, pure and simple, and now they're whingeing that they should be allowed to do it forever and everyone is being mean to them.

You know what's funny? I don't think a single person has recieved their settlement check from the RIAA when they got fined for pricefixing the last time they were in court. Sure, they're in no hurry to pay us, but don't you DARE cut them out of their share.

They were even ORDERED to lower prices....and they've yet to do so. So fuck them. I haven't bought a single CD since Napster died, and have no intention of buying another until they lower the prices to something FAIR, or make the CDs worth the money.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-09-12 01:41pm

Nor has microsith paid their fines either....

hmm we need to get someone to talk to the DOJ about a little evenness of enforcement.