terrorism

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2002-09-26 11:00am

Screw how people react. The truth is that Palestinians are the oppressed. How people react doesn't matter.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-26 11:01am

WTF is that!!!! The whole POINT of nonviolent resistance is to get people in other counties to react and withdraw support for the oppressor!

Pull your head out of your ass.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-26 12:49pm

IG-88 would you bother to read my posts?

Now, if Isreal shot up people who peacefuly lined to to protest their domination, reactions would be SLIGHTLY different.

The Isrealy army DID JUST THAT in 98! They did it agian in 2000! They shoot no resisteers at least ONCE A WEEK TODAY!

Are you even reading IG-88
They ARE doing that

However because of the US Media's slant, fuck you can listen to it yourself

*Today two people where wounded in a square in Jerisulium by IA troops, the Palenstien Media *Claims(They always say claim, not report, but claim) that five people where wounded and six people where killed

That was said on CNN less than two weeks ago

And I've heard variations on it for the last six months.....

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2002-09-26 01:13pm

IG-88E wrote:WTF is that!!!! The whole POINT of nonviolent resistance is to get people in other counties to react and withdraw support for the oppressor!

Pull your head out of your ass.

No, YOU need to pull your head out of your ass. There's no reason to be nonviolent if your cause is just and your oppressors violently oppress you. Take your Palestinian hate elsewhere.

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2002-09-26 01:17pm

Israel was created at the involuntary expense of Palestinians. Palestinians should exterminate it like the cancer that it is.

Israel is a Jewish State. Is this any different than an Aryan State? The fundamental principles of racism and prejudice are the same.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-26 01:19pm

If you want to get that going, the Palstinians were there because the Roman Empire threw the Jews out, which is why we have this schism in the first place!

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-26 01:21pm

As for the nonviolence: imagine 100 unarmed Palastinians make their way through Jeruselam, head bowed in prayer. The Isrealis shoot them up. Have you seen any of this before? NO! PLO 'demonstations' all involve violent mobs.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-26 01:52pm

As for the nonviolence: imagine 100 unarmed Palastinians make their way through Jeruselam, head bowed in prayer. The Isrealis shoot them up. Have you seen any of this before? NO!

YES WE HAVE
ARE YOU EVEN READING MY POSTS IG-88? THEY HAVE DONE JUST THAT IN 98 AND 2000 AND THIS YEAR

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2002-09-26 01:56pm

IG-88E wrote:If you want to get that going, the Palstinians were there because the Roman Empire threw the Jews out, which is why we have this schism in the first place!

Don't get stupid. You're talking ancient history. I'm talking modern history. Modern, as in the existence of the UN. Not that the UN is much good most of the time anyway.

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2002-09-26 01:59pm

Mr Bean wrote:ARE YOU EVEN READING MY POSTS IG-88?

I doubt he'd even believes the truth even if he sees it. Put him in the Middle East and he would still say Israeli soldiers are justified in shooting kids while protected in tanks.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-26 02:03pm

Bean: You're talking about five or six people! I'm talking fifty-sixty! SLIGHT DIFFERENCE!

Fury: The Jewish people have carried their history around since 'ancient history' THEY REMEMBER. If it was ancient history, why do you think the move to Isreal was so well supported? The Jews were sick of being persecuted, running into pogroms (mini-holocausts) and anti-semitism everywhere they went. THEY WANTED A HOME. Problem is, they came in and decided to toss out of palestinians instead of giving them a chance and living with them.

And if you hate the UN so much, quit bringing it up.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-26 03:19pm

You're talking about five or six people! I'm talking fifty-sixty! SLIGHT DIFFERENCE!

Realy? fifty sixty people every few months month versions five or six A DAY is there a diffrence?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2002-09-26 03:27pm

Newtonian Fury wrote:Screw how people react. The truth is that Palestinians are the oppressed. How people react doesn't matter.

Then why does Arafat send so much time doing PR. Public reation in the international arena does matter and has been fueling this thing for too many years. People feel sorry for the Palestinian's and send money and support, thereby funding terrorist attacks. People feel sorry for the jew's then and now, so send money and support that ends up fighting the Palestinians. Opponents of America use the conflict as a PR battle against us, as we to the same to them all the while money flows into the region that inables this slow burning war to keep going instead of resolving.
Both sides are wrong in alot of ways, and the international special interest are wrong as well. Let them solve it themselves peacfully or duke it out and settle it that way, or have the international community intervene in a meaningful way, put peacekeepers on the ground and set up a state for the Palenstinians while protecting the jews. The "you hit me first" shit is outdated and unproductive, get over it or past it and either shit or get off the pot.

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2002-09-26 04:28pm

IG-88E wrote:Fury: The Jewish people have carried their history around since 'ancient history' THEY REMEMBER. If it was ancient history, why do you think the move to Isreal was so well supported? The Jews were sick of being persecuted, running into pogroms (mini-holocausts) and anti-semitism everywhere they went. THEY WANTED A HOME. Problem is, they came in and decided to toss out of palestinians instead of giving them a chance and living with them.

And if you hate the UN so much, quit bringing it up.

Did I say I hate the UN so much? Stop putting words in my mouth.

People who felt sorry for Jews after WWII had a right to, they were part of the reason Jews were allowed to die. But that compassion/pity does not give Jews the right to forcibly take over someone elses land. So what if they wanted a home? They shouldn't take someone else's. And when they did, they deserve whatever action the occupants take against them.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-26 04:32pm

IG-88 Saddly is to embracive of Western Dogma of the sitaution

Want some fun facts? The orgional City of Jerisulim? Palensitien, But... Geo-recods show us with some time shorty after the begining that the Jews fokes where there and peacbly coexisting with the Natives right up untill 200 or so BC where quite alot of bloody wars where fought by the Jews in Wars of conquest aginst the natives....

Let me say it a diffrent way
My Father lived on this land, and my Grandfather before him, I never met my Grandfather and, your GREAT Grandfather lived here. You never met him either.. Who has more claim on the land?

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-26 05:08pm

Terrorism is as simple as the test here: http://www.poisonedminds.com/tests/dic/
enjoy. Terrorism is simply "as is whoever the Hell hates you right now."

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » 2002-09-27 01:16am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:I think its the use of violence to support a political agenda by a group that could not hope to win battles in the conventional sense.

I think that could be applied to either a terrorist or a guerilla. The emphasis on the terrorist has to be that in commiting said acts of violence to further a political agenda, the targetting of civilians is a central role.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-09-27 01:36pm

guerillas: crazy guys who repeatedly attack military targets
terrorists: crazy guys who repeatedly attack civilian targets