TheDarkling wrote:They werent confident their armour would hold in fact Dax says something along the lines of "Im not sure we can survive that long without our shields even with the Defiants new armour".
Two minutes? They shouldn't have survived 3 seconds if those weapons were hitting them with megaton yields.
We know that a Galaxy class is much much lower on the armour scale than the Defiant - we dont know where other ships sit.
You're still ignoring the point. It could be one half or one third as strong in the armour department, it would still be in the same order of magnitude. Therefore, it doesn't make enough of a difference to get excited.
Ahh this is about the uber calcs crack is it - may I remind you Insurrection was a TNG film and is thus inadmissable on the basis of my comment, this there by negates this entire line of reasoning (thanks for stopping by
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Doesn't matter. Insurrection is still part of the ST canon, and your DS9 uber-calcs must account for it. You made the crack, if you recall, in answer to someone's surprise that the TM is not valid.
A nuclear explosion's fireball doesnt last but it still gives off alot of energy, also we go see areas that continue to glow after the shockwave has moved away, I cant understand how you can say nothing destructive is going on.
A nuclear fireball DOES last take quite a long time to cool off, actually. Longer than the flashes from those weapons, which looked more like the sort of flashes you see from lightning storms. {EDIT: just so everybody understands the situation, a 1 kT blast produces a 0.4s pulse, and a 1 MT blast produces a 20s pulse, according to
FAS}
We basically have the Cardies/Romulans using their standard weapons and they believe they can destroy the crust of a planet in an hour - how do you explain it? some sort of chain reaction prehaps??
I know what I see, and what I saw no glowing mantle. No surface fires. No lasting fireball effects. Supersonic shockwaves that indicate most of the effect was upper-atmospheric. What do YOU see?
We also only witness 3 seconds of a bombardment that should last 3600 seconds.
And in that three seconds, we see nothing worth writing home about.
As such we should only see less than 0.1% of the crust destroyed, that level of destruction could easily be beneath the explosions we see (we can in fact see a line of glowing "stuff" that remains there for a good 2 seconds, this could easily be the destruction we are looking for).
Hardly. If 0.1% of the planet's crust was destroyed, we should see half a million square kilometres of exposed mantle. We don't see that. Not even a miniscule fraction thereof.
Also remember that as the camera turns from the view screen the first few torps have just shown explosions (the phaser strikes are the much faster), we get just a snippet of destruction.
Again, the point is that the snipper we see is insignificant compared to the amount we are supposedly seeing.
I could always claim the Romulans altered the footage to disguise there true power but forgot to edit out the 1 hour figure (the later 30% figure is just misinformation) - I hope you get what that particular jibe is refering to.
No, please enlighten us all about your brilliant joke. Are you suggesting we interpret the footage as doctored? Do you have another version for comparison? No? Then blow me.
The fact is that you cannot see destruction on a level remotely similar to what you expect to see. Therefore, your expectations are obviously wrong. Their idea of "destroying" the crust was probably to hit it hard enough to make anything on it or buried within it die. A Base-Delta-Zero operation, if you will (although it would require 30 ships and funky chain reactions).
) then the shields or the hull are much more powerful than we thought. 
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